"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue... A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 6:16-19
Beginner's Guide: Tribulation & Rapture
Author:
Christopher J. E. Johnson
Published: Aug 11, 2014
Updated: Jan 1, 2016

Contents:
Where Do We Start?
The Abomination of Desolation
The Key Events
The Day of the Lord
The Seals of Revelation
The Trumpet Sounds
Apostles Rebuked Pre-Trib Doctrine
The History of Pre-Trib
What Happens Next?
Questions & Arguments






For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch... And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
-Mark 13:34-37

As I grew up attending church buildings every week, I had always been taught a PRE-Tribulation (Pre-Trib) rapture, and had always accepted that as truth because, after all, I used to have the same brainwashed attitude that many church-goers have: if a man stood up behind the pulpit and was called "pastor," he could do and say no wrong. So since the pastor of the church building taught Pre-Trib, then it must automatically be true. It wasn't until later in my life that Jesus Christ opened my eyes to the truth, that I had never studied the issue for myself in Bible.

The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
-Proverbs 15:28

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
-1 John 2:27

I'm going to be blunt here and say that, after studying this issue myself, the #1 reason I see that American Christians today hold on to the Pre-Trib rapture scenario is because they respect the person of their pastor (i.e. sin), and don't bother to study the matter for themselves. If you are a born again Christian, ask yourself: "Have I ever studied this subject on my own?"

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
-2 Corinthians 13:5

Please try not to be intimidated by this topic. The reason this subject gets so complicated is because of all the false doctrines floating around out there. Though this will be a long article, the subject matter is quite simple if we follow the markers given to us in God's Word, as you will see later. Though you (the reader) may be a simpleton like me, this article is written specifically for simple people to understand the issue, so we can read what the Bible directly tells us.

The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
-Psalm 119:130

My objective in this article is to provide a simple understanding to what the Scripture tells us about the end-times tribulation, where the Pre-Trib concept originated, and address the arguments from those who believe in Pre-Trib. I ask every reader not to take my word for these things, stop taking your pastor's word for it, and search the Scriptures yourselves and gain your own understanding.
(Read "The Christian Work Ethic" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

In the context of tribulation and the end times, the word rapture means "transport." The following diagram is a general idea of what the average Christian understands about tribulation and rapture, and we will update this as we go through the article.

If you look up this topic on numerous mainstream Christian websites, it can be incredibly frustrating because they will typically not answer questions about it (i.e. they keep it vague), and refuse to take a direct stance on the matter. This should be no surprise, since in today's Laodecian, luke-warm American churches, the average ministry is more worried about their sales than they are about the truth. (i.e. If they took a position, they might upset someone and they would lose customers.) Unlike many other ministries, I will be much more specific to reveal my conclusions on this as we go through the Scripture. (i.e. What you personal think of me by the end of this is irrelevant.)

Though I believe the Scriptures are very clear on this issue, if I have something incorrect, then the Bible is right, and I'm wrong. The one thing I hate to see is Christians unbiblically condemning each other over this topic. Our job is to preach the Gospel to all the nations, showing them their guilt of the law (Psa 19:7), which brings them to the foot of the cross in repentance and faith in Jesus Christ (Gal 3:24), and then baptizing them in the name of the Holy Ghost and teaching them the doctrines of Christ. (Mat 28:19) Whether there is a pre-trib, post-trib, mid-trib, or any other flavor, it does not change the work we are supposed to be doing right now, and I firmly believe that Christians are losing sight of what's directly in front of us.

However, after much study, I now believe this to be a critical issue. Many Christians out there have said this is a minor issue that churches should not split over, and I used to say that too, but now I have come to disagree because we will later see that the Pre-Trib position was born out of the mouths of false prophets, and thus, that means those who teach Pre-Trib are teaching false prophecy, which is a very serious matter in the Bible, and so we need to look in the Scripture ourselves to rightly divide the word of truth.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
-2 Timothy 2:15





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If you're anything like me, you might be asking, "Where in the Bible should I even start looking for answers?" The disciples of Jesus Christ didn't know either, so they asked Him about it:

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
-Matthew 24:3
(See also Mark 13:3-4 & Luke 21:7)

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
-Matthew 24:4

The first thing the Lord Jesus Christ says in response is a warning to make sure we are not deceived by any man on the subject of the end times and His coming. This is one of the reasons it is so important that we be cautious of just taking someone's word for it when they teach on these matters. (i.e. Read the Bible yourself.)

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
-Matthew 24:5-8

So there will be many things that must happen before the end, and among those are wars and rumors of wars, famines (mass people starving), plagues, earthquakes, and all of them happening in divers places. We have the United Nations trying to keep track of who can build nuclear weapons, new vaccines being produced to deal with every new disease, earthquakes and further destruction from resulting tsunamis; so the first impression we get is that we are currently in the beginning of sorrows now because all these things are happening in rapid succession in many places around the world, and we're living in a time of digital technology that allows us to know these things are happening simultaneously around the world.


(Keep in mind, the Bible is silent on how long the Beginning of Sorrows will be.)

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
-Matthew 24:9-14

Remember, the question that was asked to Jesus Christ was "what will be the sign of thy coming?" He answered that, after the beginning of sorrows, we would be delivered up to torture, murder, and hatred for the sake of the name of Jesus Christ. As I was reading through Matthew 24, this was the first red flag that went up for me concerning the Pre-Trib theory that I had always believed, because here it's saying that one of the signs of the return of Jesus Christ is when Christians will be hated and killed by all nations, which is a very clear sign of tribulation.

Watch Out For False Teachings

There are preachers out there who teach that Matthew 24 was only talking to the Jews. For example, Sam Gipp is one of many who make that argument, and though he may have some great teachings on the King James Bible, he's teaching false doctrine on this issue.
(Geoffry Grider and Dave Hunt have also taught this error.)

If you look carefully, Matthew 24 says that they would be hated of all nations "FOR MY NAME'S SAKE," which means He can't be talking about the Jews because they don't suffer for the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus is referring to the Christians (that's why they were first called Christians; being followers of Christ - Acts 11:26) who would suffer for His name. Of course the Jews suffer, but not for the name of Jesus Christ.

Also Paul, Silvanus, and Timotheus teach this same doctrine in 2 Thessalonians 2. (We'll discuss some of these verses later.) Why would God have had Paul write these things down for a Christian church if it was only meant for the Jews? Why didn't Paul just tell them it was for Israel only? The answer is obvious: Because this message is for born-again Christians. The revelation of the end-times was given by Christ to His disciples, and again by his disciples to all Christians, that we would understand the signs and look for them.

I had a man named Aaron write me after this article was published, and he said the following:
"Hello Chris, I'm writing in response to your Tribulation article... Matthew 24 IS directed at the Jews only because there were no Christians at this point (Christ had not died and rose again yet) - so how could he be talking to us?"

First of all, Aaron is ignoring Jesus Christ in Matthew 24 when He says he is referring to those who would suffer for His name's sake. Also, as aforementioned, in Acts 11 that they were CALLED (i.e. named) Christians first in Antioch, but they are also known by another name: "the elect," and though many preachers falsely claim that "the elect" only refers to the Jews, this is not the case, and it can proven by many Scriptures...

He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
-Romans 8:32-34

This portion of Scripture is also commonly preached from, never questioning that this is referring to born-again Christians, yet they are called "the elect."

Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
-Colossians 3:12-13

Here, Christians again are referred to as "the elect." The Jews have also been referred to as the elect, but many teachers ignore that Christians are also used by this name, being branches that are graffed into the olive tree. (Rom 11:11-25)

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
-Titus 1:1

Jews don't have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, and so this is obviously referring to Christians as "God's elect."

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
-1 Peter 1:1-2

The Christians scattered throughout different parts of the world are called the "elect." This is not a difficult concept to understand, but when people put their faith in new-age false prophecy (as we'll see later when we discover the history of Pre-Trib), they become blinded to the Word of God.

As Jesus Christ warned us, be cautious that no man deceive you. Some false doctrines are floating around because many preachers know that Matthew 24 is a clear contradiction to their secret Pre-Trib theory, and they lie to others, seeking to justify themselves in their personal beliefs.

When reading a Bible that has paragraph markers, this is the end of that paragraph. Paragraph markers show us that Christ gave an overview answer to their question, and will now go back and give us more details.

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
-Matthew 24:15

Now let's make a pit stop and learn more about this verse, because the beginner to this topic will immediately ask "what is the abomination of desolation?" Notice first that Jesus Christ did not make this part hidden and locked away, but rather, he says that anyone who reads this should be given understanding of it, to know what's about to happen. (That means you can understand this too!) So let's go back to the book of Daniel and find out what He's referring to...



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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
-Daniel 9:27

The "he" in Daniel 9:27 is the final antichrist, the son of perdition (2Th 2:3), which will "cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease." Jesus Christ once and for all sacrifice on the cross (Heb 10:10 see below) made void all further sacrifices when He became the sacrificial Lamb of God, but the Jews don't believe on the Him.
To better understand the abomination, Catholics believe in something called "transubstantiation," which means they believe their priests can perform the miracle of turning bread and wine into the LITERAL body and blood of Christ, wherefore they believe they are drinking his blood (Acts 15:29), and this is repeated sacrifice that denies Jesus Christ, because men are making the sacrifice of Christ's blood over and over for the remission of sins. This is ABOMINATION unto God in the New Covenant.

By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
-Hebrews 10:10

Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
-Hebrews 7:27

There is only one place sacrifices and oblations were made by the Jews, and that was the Temple:

And it shall be Aaron's and his sons' by a statute for ever from the children of Israel: for it is an heave offering: and it shall be an heave offering from the children of Israel of the sacrifice of their peace offerings, even their heave offering unto the LORD.
-Exodus 29:28

And if thou bring an oblation of a meat offering baken in the oven, it shall be unleavened cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, or unleavened wafers anointed with oil.
-Leviticus 2:4

This means the abomination of desolation is when the final antichrist stands in the newly rebuilt Solomon's Temple and will stop the sacrifices of the Jews because he will declare himself to be the Messiah. Keep in mind, the only reason the Jews will stop sacrificing is not because of the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ, but rather they stop sacrificing to believe in a Satanic false messiah, and will allow him to be their leader.
The prophecy of Daniel 9:27 predicts the Jews will rebuild the temple of Solomon, and begin sacrificing again, creating an abomination in the eyes of God. Then, the final antichrist, the son of perdition, will appear.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
-1 John 2:18

For example, the pope is an antichrist, but that doesn't mean he's the FINAL antichrist. The pope in the time of the rebuilding of Solomon's Temple could be the final antichrist, but we don't know yet.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
-2 Thessalonians 2:3

No one is sure how the temple will get constructed, and there are a number of theories how it might be accomplished, but what we do know is that the Muslims (i.e. followers of Islam) are currently preventing Israel from starting construction of Solomon's Temple. Where the temple is supposed to be built in Jerusalem, there is instead a Muslim worship center called the Al-Aqsa Mosque, which was constructed after the Muslims captured Jerusalem.
(Interesting Note: Al-Aqsa Mosque has been rebuilt mulitple times after being destroyed by earthquakes on two separate occasions.)

The Muslims are extremely sensitive about this mosque, and even false rumors of it being removed are sparking threats of Islamic terrorist action.
(See Aaron Klein, "Iran Media: Israel Rebuilding Temple," World Net Daily, Feb 6, 2014, retrieved Apr 21, 2014, [www.wnd.com/2014/02/iran-media-israel-rebuilding-temple])

However, other Muslims have written open published opinions that they would like to see Solomon's Temple rebuilt, and would invite them to build it together in peace.
"As a devout Muslim, it would be a joy for me to see Prophet Solomon’s Temple rebuilt as well. No, you did not hear me wrong. Prophet Solomon’s Temple being rebuilt in all its magnificence and glory would be a great delight for me, as it would be to any Muslim. Under different circumstances, in an atmosphere of trust, love and brotherhood, Muslims would welcome this with enthusiasm... Actually, it is everyone’s aspiration for that city to be adorned, to be beautified, and to regain the magnificent glory it had in the days of the Prophet Solomon."
-Sinem Tezyapar, "A New Muslim Vision: Rebuilding Solomon's Temple Together," Jewish Press, Mar 12, 2013, retrieved Apr 21, 2014, [www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/a-new-muslim-vision-rebuilding-solomons-temple-together/2013/03/12]

Others have suggested there is enough room to put Solomon's temple in an already-vacant area north of the mosque. Clicking the image below will take you to Google Maps where you can see a ground-view perspective of Al'Aqsa Mosque, and the left side of that image is the north end.

(Image by Google Maps; Photos by Michael Kolchesky)

Will We Know When The Abomination Occurs?

I heard a preacher once say that we would not know when the Abomination of Desolution occurs because it would be a secret event. I do not agree with this at all because Jesus Christ said "when ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation," which means this is an event we will witness. (i.e. Why would Christ tell us we would see something if we never see it?)

I'm sure the early apostles had it cross their minds at some point, how it would be that all Christians would see the Abomination of Desolation if they were in other parts of the world. With TVs, PCs, smart phones, and the internet, we can watch events live, even if we're not there, or at least see recordings of the event. The Abomination of Desolution is such a huge event, there is little doubt that it would be a public (perhaps even televised) display, especially since all eyes are on the middle east right now, and specifically Israel's every move.

So we have the Abomination of Desolation as a key event that Jesus Christ is pointing out to us. Jesus gives us more information about what will happen when this event occurs:

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
-Matthew 24:15-21

As soon as the Abomination of Desolation hits, then we're going to have great tribulation like the world has never seen before. This brought up a second red flag for me about the pre-trib teaching; why would Jesus Christ tell us about any of this, and warn us of things to come and things we would see, if we were already transported (raptured) out?





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And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
-Matthew 24:22-28

NOTE: Concerning the preachers who say that Matthew 24 is for the Jews only, they will argue that the elect here is talking about the Jews. This isn't possible. The Jews have been blinded by God for the sake of the Gentiles, (Rom 11:25) which means the Jews are already deceived.
(i.e. The Jews don't run the risk of being deceived when they're deceived already.)

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24:29-31

The third red flag came up for me when I read AFTER the tribulation of those days, the coming of Jesus Christ would occur. The pre-trib rapture scenario does NOT fit here, and we've only just begun looking at the Biblical timeline, so to avoid confusion, let's go ahead an remove that from what we know so far.

The Fluffy "God" of the New-Age

There is a false teaching going around today of religions across the world (including many deceived Christian churches) that teach God offers peace, joy, love, and happiness to everyone, and that you are SO important, that He needs your love in return. These are people who are teaching a selfish, man-centered message that bring in unbelievers who will take Jesus for a test-drive to see if the claims of peace, joy, love, and happiness are true. One of the major problems with this false teaching is that, in the Bible, we are promised suffering and persecution:

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
-Romans 8:17

For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
-Phillipians 1:29

For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
1 Thessalonians 3:4

So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
-2 Thessalonians 1:4-5

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
-2 Timothy 2:12

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
-2 Timothy 3:12

This doesn't say "some," or that American Christians will be given a free pass; no, it says that ALL will suffer tribulation and persecution. Certainly, the degrees of that persecution differs from place to place, and time to time, but we suffer nonetheless, and if you find yourself sitting on easy-street as a Christian, and don't have hardly any worldly troubles for your faith in Christ, it means you aren't doing something you're supposed to be doing and you need to examine yourself to see if you are in the faith.

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
-2 Corinthians 13:5


We now have four key events we need to remember for later to help us build the timeline:
  • Abomination of Desolation
  • Sun, Moon, and Stars Go Dark
  • Great Trumpet Sounding
  • Jesus Christ Returns
These events are going to be markers for us. In places with heavy blizzards that limit vision (sometimes called "white outs," which make it almost impossible to see), people set up marker flags to help them know which direction to go next. Like marker flags, these key events Jesus Christ gave us will help us draw a rough timeline to know what's going to happen next.
Let's look closer at the first one Jesus mentioned, the Abomination of Desolation. Earlier, we read defined what it was in the book of Daniel, but let's focus on the timing for a moment:

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
-Daniel 9:27

The final antichrist will have some contractual agreement with "many," either talking about the Jews since they will be doing the sacrificing, or referring to many in the world. This agreement will be for one week, but we need to understand that God gives prophecy in different time frames than on our normal 24-hour days, so let's take a few moments to learn about Biblical formula for prophetic predictions.

After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.
-Numbers 14:34

For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days... And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.
-Ezekiel 4:5-6

Based on these verses, it has been taught that when God issues prophecy for the future of the Jewish people, each day is represented by one year. I emphasize prophecy because many false preachers seek to take the Bible out of its context. This has nothing to do with creation days, as that is not prophecy, and this has nothing to do with days when Jesus said the temple would be destroyed but raised up in three days (John 2:19), because He was explaining to them that He was going to die and raise himself up, and they were about to witness it happening. Prophecy is specific to its context, and these specific prophisies are made by those who would not live in the flesh long enough to see it come to pass.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
-Daniel 9:24

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
-Daniel 9:27

Numerous Christian commentaries say the Abomination of Desolation will occur exactly 3.5 years into this final week, and they count out the specific amount of days. The Bible does NOT say that. It says "in the midst of the week," which can be sometime in the middle of the seven-year period. Logically following, it would probably be sometime between years 3 to 4, but we do not know for sure. Though many will argue from Rev 12 and the 1,260 days, if you divide that by 365, it also does not add up to exactly 3.5 years. It is possible it could be exactly 3.5 years, and I entertain the thought, but we do not know for sure.
(I will not discuss how to count these out or where to start them, and what all is involved with the 70 weeks, because that is not the focus of this article. However, 69 weeks of years was supposed to be fulfilled up until time of the Messiah, but the 70th and final week, the one week in verse 27, has yet to take place.)


So at the time of the antichrist in verse 27, he is going to have a coventant with most of the world for 7 years, and sometime in the middle of that week, this antichrist is going to enter Solomon's temple and put a stop to the sacrifices and oblations, and declare himself to be the Messiah. And it is because of this, when Jesus Christ was asked about when they would know the sign of His coming, he first warned them:

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
-Matthew 24:4-5

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
-Matthew 24:23-24

The deception of this time will be so strong, that Jesus told us that if He was not with us, and we were not His sheep, it would fool us too. He told us to wait, watch, and look for the evidence. We will not need to go search for Christ here or there, because He will come to all of us at the same time, and thus we will know it is Him.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
-Matthew 24:32-35

We'll know when Jesus Christ is close to appearing, and the end of the world following, when these signs (like the Abomination of Desolation) come to pass. Jesus Christ never said we would know the day or the hour, but we will know a rough time frame, just like my wife and I know a rough time frame of when our apple trees will start bearing fruit in the season, but we don't know the exact day or hour we need to pick the fruit.

The next is the sign of the lights going dark and of the trumpet blowing:

Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand... The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
-Joel 2:1-11

And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
-Joel 2:30-31





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We also have something called "the day of the Lord," and the sun, moon, and stars are supposed to go dark before this Day of the Lord occurs. Though some may want to jump to conclusions that this is a 24-hour day, it does not have a numerical modifier in front of it. (The word 'day' attached to a number always means a 24-hour day; e.g. "the first day" Gen 1:5, "three days" Mar 14:58) Even today, we don't always say "day" in reference to 24-hours when we say phrases like "back in the day," or "during the day," which mean a time frame other than 24 hours. The "day of the Lord" is likely a frame of time, not a single 24-hour day.

Many Christians seem to confuse the Day of the Lord and the Day of Christ (or the Day of the Lord Jesus) as the same thing, but the Bible describes them in two different ways. As we just read in Joel 2, the Day of the Lord is terrible and frightening, but that's not the way the Day of Christ is described:

Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
-Phillipians 2:16

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
-2 Thessalonians 2:2

Based on what I'm reading here, the Day of Christ is a time of relief and rejoicing, but that's not what I'm seeing from the Day of the Lord:

Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt: And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.
-Isaiah 13:6-8

For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.
-Jeremiah 46:10

Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
-Amos 5:18

Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
-Amos 5:20

In the Day of the Lord, the final antichrist will not be destroyed because there is no brightness in that day. He will be destroyed in the Day of Christ and the brightness of His coming:

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
-2 Thessalonians 2:8

The Day of Christ is what we all hope for, but the Day of the Lord must come first. Much of the major confusion on this issue comes out of the new-age versions floating around which replaced "day of Christ" with "Day of the Lord," and many Christians have generally come to accept the two as one and the same.

For example, in 2 Thessalonians 2:2...
King James Bible "as that the day of Christ is at hand"
New Living Translation "who say that the day of the Lord has already begun"
New American Standard Version "to the effect that the day of the Lord has come"
New International Version "asserting that the day of the Lord has already come"
English Standard Version "to the effect that the day of the Lord has come"
American Standard Version "as that the day of the Lord is just at hand"
Revised Standard Version "to the effect that the day of the Lord has come"

If you're going to study tribulation, rapture, and end-times events, and you can read English, then you really need to get a King James Bible. Without the KJB, you'll end up missing key doctrines, which causes confusion.
(Read "Why I Use The King James Bible" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
-Isaiah 13:9-11

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
-Acts 2:20

Based on these verses of Scripture, we see that the lights going dark is correlated directly to the day of the Lord, but we're still unable to get a time frame from these verses. For this one, we'll need to dig a bit deeper into Revelation.



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And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
-Revelation 6:12-13

In order to understand what's being described here, we need to go through the seals of Revelation.
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And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
-Revelation 6:1-2

The beasts being talked about here are the beasts listed out in Revelation 4, which are servants of God. The beasts are revealing the actions of the four horsemen, which represent the actions of the four beasts talked about in the book of Daniel.

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
-Revelation 6:3-4

The second seal concerns the second beast, which takes peace from the earth, and causes the people to kill one another.

And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of bar-or penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
-Revelation 6:5-6

This third seal concerns the third beast, which will have control over food sales. A penny is described as a day's wage in Mat 20:2, so the people will be working an entire day just for the food they need.

And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
-Revelation 6:7-8

The fourth seal concerns the fourth beast, and based on this description, it sounds like this fourth kingdom will be far more destructive than the others.

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
-Revelation 6:9-11

The fifth seal concerns the Christians who will be tortured and murdered for their faith in Jesus Christ. Why would this describe all of them being killed for their faith if they were supposed to be raptured out before all this happens?

And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
-Revelation 6:12

Summary

The sixth seal concerns the sun, moon, and stars going dark, and that's our mile-marker from which we can further develop our timeline. So we have the disciples of Jesus asking Him when he would return in Matthew 24, and he said "immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not giver her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven." Now we also have Revelation 6 foretelling the sun, moon, and stars going dark, and all of it takes place AFTER "the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held." (i.e. AFTER the tribulation)
Comparing The Seals of Revelation With The Beasts of Daniel

And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
[#1] The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
[#2] And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
[#3] After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
[#4] After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. -Daniel 7:3-8

We first have these major ruling kingdoms working their destruction across the world, and then you have this one horn coming from the fourth beast that is a wonderous speaker. Look at what happens:

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
-Daniel 7:13-14

When does that happen? AFTER the Tribulation.

I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
-Daniel 7:21-22

This is very clearly the Tribulation time mentioned in Mat 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, 2Th 2, Rev 6, and Joel 2. This is very simple to read and understand,

Now let's go back to Matthew 24 again, and see what happens after the sun, moon, and stars go dark:

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24:29-31


This is also supported by Matthew 13, when Jesus Christ will send forth his angels to gather the Christians, separating the wheat from the tares, it will be the end of the world:

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
-Matthew 13:36-40

I don't see anywhere in the Bible events that describes a secret rapture that comes before all this. So let's update our timeline again...



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Now let's figure out where to place the trumpet sound in our timeline.

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
-1 Corinthians 15:51-57

When reading these verses, it seems crystal clear to me that when the last trump sounds, then the rapture of Jesus Christ will occur because at that point, the dead in Christ will be raised incorruptible, and victory is achieved. This got me thinking: If PRE-trib was true, how can death be swallowed up in victory when people are still dying in the tribulation after it? Again, the PRE-trib model doesn't fit here. Once again, if we go back to Mattew 24, Jesus Christ tells us the same thing:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24:30-31

This event of the trump of God blowing to announce the coming in of the Lord Jesus Christ, at the same time of the rapture (gathering of His saints), is also referenced in Thessalonians:

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
-1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

That means we can update our timeline again...

This trumpet sounding is associated directly with Christ's return, which is foretold AFTER the sun, moon, and stars go dark, which is foretold to be AFTER the abomination of desolation (in the midst of the tribulation), and that means a secret PRE-trib rapture scenario impossible to reconcile in Scripture.

Let's also verify this by looking at correlating Scripture in Mark:

But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
-Mark 13:24-27

The tribulation comes, the lights go dark, then Jesus Christ comes, and the rapture occurs. Once again, just to recap, Jesus Christ then tells us that we will not know the specific hour of His coming, but we will know a rough timeframe based on the signs He's given to us.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
-Mark 13:28-30

Just as Lorraine and I do not know what day our apples trees are ready to pick, but we do know the season, and the rough time frame in which they'll be ready. This is another reason the secret PRE-trib scenario doesn't line up with Scripture. If everyone is raptured out before the tribulation, then there will be no signs to know the season in which Jesus Christ returns.

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
-Mark 13:31-37

Let's consider the parable: If the master of the house takes a far journey, then you'll know roughly how much time it will take him to travel. You'll have an idea of when he'll return, but you don't know the exact day, and you also don't know what specific hour.

To put this section into proper context of Jesus Christ giving us the signs to know His coming, let's say the master of the house was leaving in the spring. He tells you that he will not return until the leaves on the trees begin to fall in autumn, and so you know throughout the summer that he will not be returning, but once the first leaf begins to fall, it could be any day. (i.e. You know the rough timeframe, but you don't know the exact day or hour.)

The signs of Christ's returning have not come upon us yet, and though there could be good arguments made that we are in the beginning of sorrows now, the construction of Solomon's Temple has not begun, so we are nowhere close to the signs of Christ's return.



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The church of Thessalonica believed in a version of Pre-Trib, and many Christian teachers are unaware of this. That church thought that Jesus Christ was going to come back at any moment, and were living and preaching in fear of this. Paul writes them to ease their concerns:

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
-2 Thessalonians 2:1

This chapter is referring back to what Christ taught his disciples in the Matthew 24 -- the chapter most Pre-Trib teachers try to elminate from the Bible. Some will object and claim that the "gathering together" is just meeting at a church building, but keep reading:

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
-2 Thessalonians 2:2

Paul is telling them not to be nervous, because Christ's return was not going to be anytime soon, and that they didn't need to worry. How did Paul know when it would be if the day is at hand (i.e. He's coming back at any moment). He told them to watch for the signs...

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
-2 Thessalonians 2:3

Until the final antichrist is revealed, the day won't come. This is the abomination of desolation that Christ talked about in Matthew 24, and Paul continues to describe it:

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
-2 Thessalonians 2:4

This is what the apostles had always taught them, and this is doctrine that directly opposes the false Catholic-originated prophecy of pre-trib.

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
-2 Thessalonians 2:5-8

Jesus Christ returns not only to rapture out his children, but also to defeat the final antichrist at the same time. If any Christian wants to deny this, that's your business; I'm not held responsible for what you choose to believe in your heart. This is the harvest, the end of the world, and these signs of the final antichrist are being taught to Thessalonica.

The reason I point out that this doctrine is being taught to Thessalonica, is because many Pre-Trib teachers seek to eliminate Matthew 24 as talking only to the Jews (which we have already proven wrong many times over), but here again, "rip-out-Mat-24-from-your-bible" is also proven to be wrong because the same doctrine is being preached to the early church, not to the Jews. So since the early church had preached Post-Trib doctrine, where did Pre-Trib come from?



 

For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
-1 Thessalonians 5:3

Points to consider about a secret PRE-trib rapture scenario:
  • If Jesus comes back before tribulation, the day is going to overtake us as a thief. The signs for the coming of Jesus are in the tribulation, so if Christians were raptured out beforehand, then we can't know the signs of His coming.
  • If Jesus comes back before tribulation, what's the point of knowing the parable of the fig tree? In relation to the example I gave of the apple trees earlier, Lorraine and I would then have to then go out multiple times a day, every day, spring, summer, autumn, and winter, to check and see when (POOF!) apples would appear on the trees, because we have no signs to know when the time is approaching.
  • If a bunch of church-goers believe they're going to be raptured out before tribulation hits, then they will be deceived by the antichrist. Even when the antichrist appears, they won't believe it's really him, because they believe they're already supposed to be raptured out before that tribulation, which will leave them susceptable to Satan's deception. Thus, the church won't be prepared as watchmen, because the first thing we look for is NOT Jesus Christ directly, but rather, the signs of His coming.
Of course, I often hear Pre-Trib folks claim that they won't be decieved, and accuse me, "How dare you! We won't be deceived!" But the Bible says:

Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
-1 Corinthians 10:12

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
-2 Corinthians 13:5

There's no doubt that this secret Pre-Trib rapture theory is incredibly popular in the churches of America today, and understandably so, because the modern-day leavened churches are so into new-age, feel-good, pleasure-seeking messages, they'll quickly adhere to anything that tells them they won't have to suffer persecution. Since we have a lot of pastors that simply prance over issues when they teach behind the pulpit, and due to the fact that a lot of lazy Christians don't study the Word for themselves to prove what's true, not only is Pre-trib accepted for its feel-good message, very few ever seek out where this doctrine came from in the first place. (i.e. Since it doesn't come from the Bible, it's got to come from somewhere.)

The beginngings of the Pre-Trib doctrine go back as far as the 16th century, when the Reformation (i.e. people leaving the Catholic Church, and fervent preaching in Europe against their heretical doctrines) was at its peak. If you CLICK THIS LINK you can read the reformers who were pointing out the Pope as antichrist, and preaching that the Roman Catholic Church and its Pope were in the perfect position to bring about the end-times prophecy.
(Read "Corruptions of Christianity: Catholicism -- The Inquisition" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

Enter the Jesuits: a secret organization start by the Roman Catholic Church to carry out missions of espianoge that would benefit the Roman Pontiff (i.e. Pope).

Jesuit Oath and Ceremony of Induction

My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant, and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope.
You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace. To take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means.
You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death.
You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labors with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved." Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:
I, ___________, now, in the presence of Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven, and to you, my ghostly father, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear, that his holiness the Pope is Christ's Vice-regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing, given to his Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, states, commonwealths and governments, all being illegal without his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed.
Therefore, to the utmost of my power I shall and will defend this doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the now pretended authority and churches of England and Scotland, and branches of the same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere; and all adherents in regard that they be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now renounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or state named Protestants or Liberals, or obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or officers.
I do further declare that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and others of the name Protestants or Liberals to be damnable and they themselves damned who will not forsake the same.
I do further declare, that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of his Holiness' agents in any place wherever I shall be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Ireland or America, or in any other Kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my uttermost to extirpate the heretical Protestants or Liberals' doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise.
I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with, to assume my religion heretical, for the propaganda of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they may entrust me and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father, or any of this sacred covenant.
I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ.
That I may go to any part of the world withersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.
I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.
In confirmation of which, I hereby dedicate my life, my soul and all my corporal powers, and with this dagger which I now receive, I will subscribe my name written in my own blood, in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the Militia of the Pope cut off my hands and my feet, and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned therein, with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul be tortured by demons in an eternal hell forever!
"All of which, I, __________, do swear by the Blessed Trinity and blessed Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to perform and on my part to keep inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and glorious host of heaven to witness the blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist, and witness the same further with my name written and with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and sealed in the face of this holy covenant.

(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)

SUPERIOR: You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank.
In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one cross his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the center of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the center of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the first then with his right hand draws it across the throat of the other, and the latter then with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of the first. The first then says Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first Reges. The other answers Impious." (The meaning of which has already been explained.) "The first will then present a small piece of paper folded in a peculiar manner, four times, which the other will cut longitudinally and on opening the name Jesu will be found written upon the head and arms of a cross three times. You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:
SUPERIOR: From whither do you come?
INITIATE: The Holy Faith.

SUPERIOR: Whom do you serve?
INITIATE: The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.

SUPERIOR: Who commands you?
INITIATE: The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.

SUPERIOR: Who received you?
INITIATE: A venerable man in white hair.

SUPERIOR: How?
INITIATE: With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.

SUPERIOR: Did you take an oath?
INITIATE: I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, sex nor condition. To be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation of murmuring.

SUPERIOR: Will you do that?
INITIATE: I will.

SUPERIOR: How do you travel?
INITIATE: In the bark of Peter the fisherman.

SUPERIOR: Whither do you travel?
INITIATE: To the four quarters of the globe.

SUPERIOR: For what purpose?
INITIATE: To obey the orders of my general and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfill the conditions of my oaths.

SUPERIOR: Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.
-Jesuit Oath of Induction, quoted by Edward Hendrie, The Anti-Gospel: The Perversion of Christ's Grace Gospel, Great Mountain Publishing, 2012, ISBN: 9780983262756; See also House Bill #1523, Eugene C. Bonniwell vs Thos. S. Butler, Feb 15, 1913, p. 3215-3216

But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
-Matthew 5:34-37
(Read "Should Christians Keep Their Word?" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
-Matthew 7:15

It should be very clear at this point that the Jesuits were to infiltrate every organization they could, becoming wolves among sheep, for the purpose of destroying any who would dare to question the Pope's rule.

Once such Jesuit, Francisco Ribera (1537-1591), set out on a mission to take away heat from the Roman Catholic Church during the Reformation of the 16th century, and he did so by writing a 500-page commentary on the book of Revelation, entitled: In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij. In this book, Ribera attempts to alter some of the timing of the the prophetic events in order to take heat away from the acusations made against the Pope, because many people thought they were in the end times during the Reformation, which is understandable when considering the massive death toll of Christians in Europe during the Catholic Inquisition.

"He [Ribera] said that the Pope could not be the man of sin or the antichrist because all prophetic utterances are for the distant future."
-Frans Du Plessis, Revealing God's Intended Finish, eGenCo LLC, 2012, p. 80, ISBN: 9781936554232

"Genius attempts to distract from the Papacy, making it appear as if the book of Revelation had no connection to the middle Ages."
-Lynda Durrett & Yisrael Avilla, The Little Horn's Big Lie!: The Ten Most Dangerous Doctrines Preached in the Church Today, self-published, 2010, ISBN: 9781453585849

One of the problems Christians had at this time was looking at the suffering and persecution, but not looking at signs aforementioned in this article. The signs of Christ's coming were not all in place (e.g. abomination of desolation), and so it was not the time yet, which made Ribera's book brilliant in that it had some truth to it, that the Pope was not the final antichrist, but the Bible tells us there will be many antichrists before the final one, and the Popes throughout history have always been antichrists.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
-1 John 2:18

About 200 years later, another Jesuit, Manuel De Lacunza (1731–1801) expanded on Ribera's work in a document he wrote called La Venida del Mesías en Gloria y Magestad or The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty. If you look up the book, however, you will not find Lacunza's name as the author; the name on the book is "Rabbi" Juan Josafat Ben-Ezra, and this was to hide the fact that he was a Catholic and a Jesuit, while posing as a Jew converted to Christianity. Lacunza's book proposed the Pre-Trib rapture based on the lies in Ribera's commentaries, claiming that the interpretation of end-times was just for the Jews, and the Christians would be raptured out before-hand.

Faking Jewish heritage was/is considered a very dirty tactic, but one the Jesuits were sworn to perform, quoting against from their oath:
"to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope."

A few years after Lacunza dies, another man by name of Edward Irving, who had a following called the Irvingits that later started up the Catholic Apostolic (Irvingite) Church, translated Lacunza's Jesuit book into English (1827), and taught it as doctrine. Irving also added a 203-page preface to this document, adding in his own opinions about the rapture and the final days.

"In 1826, Edward Irving translated a work by Manuel Lacunza, a Spanish Jesuit, who wrote a book under the pseudonym of Juan Josafat Ben-Ezra, alledgedly a converted Jew: The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty. Lacunza interpreted the Book of Revelation as describing apocalyptic events which were imminent. Irving added a 203-page preface in which he gave his own prophetic speculation about the end of the world, predicting the apostasy of Christendom, the eventual restoration of the Jews, and the imminent return of Christ."
-Dan Cohn-Sherbok, Introduction to Zionism and Israel: From Ideology to History, A&C Black, 2012, p. 36, ISBN: 9781441160621

Irving already had claimed that God had spoken to him, and given him a vision to preach the about this secret rapture of the saints. After teaching this doctrine for just a few years, a 15-year-old Catholic girl, by the name of Margaret MacDonald, claimed she had a dream about the end times, and was called a prophetess among the charismatics in church she attended.

"This theory of a secret pre-tribulation rapture has been traced back to 1830 when a Scottish lass, Margaret MacDonald, is purported to have delivered it as a prophecy while she was in an ecstatic trance."
-Earl Wesley Morey, Our God Reigns, Xulon Press, 2003, p. 113, ISBN: 9781591603252

It was through Irving and MacDonald that the pre-tribulation rapture was given a label.

"The familiar story that surrounds the origin of pre-tribulation rapture is that it developed as a result of a charismatic utterance through the mouth of a prophetess in Irving's Catholic Apostolic Church of Scotland... the new doctrine had its nativity in Port of Glasgow Scotland and was the theological musing of a known invalid of that area named Margaret MacDonald... the MacDonald family were reputable people who were not known to be given over to flights of fancy but that a revival began in their home that was marked by charismatic manifestations specifically speaking in tongues."
-Bashiri Durham, A Comparative Look at Darbyian Dispensationalism, ProQuest, 2009, p. 31-32 ISBN: 9781109138504

"Understandably, today's evangelical proponents of a secret pretribulation rapture scream bloody murder every time someone traces this popular modern-day doctrine back to its origin. None of its present-day proponents want to give credit where credit is due, to Margaret Macdonald. Furthermore, almost all of them refuse to be associated with Port Glasgow, a town that was not only at the center of the charismatic revival in western Scotland in 1830, but also a hotbed for utterances in tongues on the revival's central theme; namely, Margaret Macdonald's new slant on the second coming of Jesus Christ."
-Don Walton, Piecing Together Bible Prophecy, WestBow Press, 2012, ISBN: 9781449743529

MacDonald's dream was exalted in this charistmatic organization, and claimed to be "verified" through the "speaking in tongues" jibberish (which is not really speaking in tongues). MacDonald attempted other prophecies, none of which came true.
(See Thomas C. Nixon, The Time in the End in the Book of Revelation, AuthorHose, 2002, p. 103, ISBN: 9781403340696)

"In the days of Margaret Macdonald, Edward Irving was a renowned Scottish preacher. One could say that he was the Billy Graham of his day, attracting large crowds with his exceptional oratory abilities. Having heard Irving preach on the second coming of Christ near Margaret's home in 1828, Margaret's family began a warm correspondance with the famous pastor of London's Caledonian Chapel at Hatton Garden.
In the spring of 1830, when Margaret received her end-time vision, revealing to her the never-seen-before secret rapture of the church, she sent a handwritten copy of her revelation to Edward Irving as well as to other leading clergymen of the day... The Morning Watch, published an article in September of 1830 that differentiated between the 'epiphany' of Christ, Christ's coming to secretly rapture the church, and the 'parousia' of Christ, Christ's coming to judge the world and inaugurate His millennial kingdom. While subsequent articles appeared in Irving's prophetic journal, some of which expanded upon Margaret Macdonald's initial end-time notions, this September 1830 article appears to the first time that the secret rapture of the church was taught publicly and in print... Following the defrocked minister's untimely death, the torch of this new doctrine was carried by his followers, who became known as 'Irvingites.'"
-Don Walton, Piecing Together Bible Prophecy (aka The Rubick's Cube of Bible Prophecy), WestBow Press, 2012, ISBN: 9781449743529

The Morning Watch was a publication that was headed-up by Irving, who was the leader of a cultic group called The Caledonian Chapel, and they are more commonly known today as the Catholic Apostolic Church, whom are also credited with founding the modern cultic 'Pentecostal' teachings, which are reponsible for introducing a wide variety of false doctrines.

John Nelson Darby, during his research into the charismatic churches, met with Irving, and learned of the Catholic false prophecy of Pre-Trib from him, and many suspect, also from MacDonald. Darby then brings this doctrine across the Atlantic Ocean and shares it with Cyrus Ingerson Scofield (author of The Scofield Bible), who taught this Catholic Jesuit false prophecy from the pulpit and in his Bible notes, and then tens of thousands of preachers would begin teaching from Scofield's commentaries instead of God's Word, which is why the Pre-Trib false prophecy is so popular in the U.S. and England today.
I remember listening to a preacher defend his Pre-trib position by claiming that the Catholic church had held a Post-Trib position for a long time, so therefore, Pre-Trib must be true. This is a fallacious argument that does not hold the Word of God as authority. If you are making decisions about what the Bible says based on what the Catholic church teaches, then the Catholic church is your final authority, not the Word of God, but worse still is that the Catholic Church created the Pre-Trib concept in the first place!

I've listened to some preachers say that if people don't believe that Christ will come back at any moment, then they won't bother to get saved. This is a ludicrous argument because the Bible doesn't say that people are converted by threats of Christ coming back any moment, but rather, the Bible tells us people are converted by the hearing of God's Law (Psa 19:7, Gal 3:24), and problem is that if people do not receive a repentant heart by understanding the Law of God, then they will become false converts who believe they will be taken out of the world before great tribulation, which means those people WILL NOT SEE the signs of the final antichrist, believing they were supposed to be taken out before he shows up.

When the son of perdition appears, there will be many false converts who will see him as just a good guy trying to make peace with the world, because if he were the final antichrist, they would have been raptured out already, and thus they will be deceived and accept the son of perdition. At the same time, when great tribulation hits this world, they will not be persecuted like the born-again Christians, and yet, the whole time they will think that they are going to be raptured out. This is a simple ruse to trick people right into the Devil's deception because they think the times have not come yet because they haven't been taken; all the while looking at Christians in prisons (or worse) as the bad guys who are disturbing the peace and making trouble.

Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
-Matthew 13:13

Other preachers have said that watching for signs is worldly, and about every other year, I hear of some silly movement from a bunch of deceived people about the end of the world, and I just laugh because I know the signs of the times are not here yet. What's interesting about these groups is that they are PRE-Trib people who are being deceived by these dates and times because they believe they are being raptured out BEFORE great tribulation, but those with Biblical understanding can clearly spot the counterfeits.

This will only create false converts. Once the false prophets are proven false, people walk away with the impression that the Christian God of the Bible is a liar.

A man emailed me in 2011, telling me I needed to prepare for this date. I replied with Scripture to show he was incorrect, but he ignored the verses I gave, attempted to justify himself, called me an ignoramous, and told me I would feel stupid for not believing his date. Yet, here we are in 2014, but hundreds of thousands of PRE-Trib believers were deceived. (He never wrote me afterwards to repent of his words.)

I am NOT saying that everyone who believes in Pre-Trib is automatically a false prophet, but you are believing in, and teaching a Catholic lie, and that lie gets spread throughout many of the new-age false prophets (like those above) who believe they will be raptured out BEFORE great tribulation. If the world is so deceived now, how much worse do you think it will get?

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
-Matthew 24:24

I have heard other preachers say that people are more willing to come to hear the Gospel when they believe that Christ will show up secretly at any time, but we do not adopt false prophecies from the Catholic church to try and "help the Gospel." Jesus Christ is not incompetant, and He does not need our help. Teaching the Law of God to unbelievers, just like Christ did, still works perfectly, and it doesn't need special improvement from cults.

Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
-2 Thessalonians 2:15

Further still, I've heard other preachers say that if you don't believe in the secret pre-trib rapture, then you will end up with an "Alex Jones mentality," meaning that you will become a hermit that must learn to live off the land out of fear that you will be persecuted unto death. This is an illogical and unbiblical argument:
  • Jesus Christ told us not to be troubled. We have the promises of Matthew 6, that if we seek after righteousness, we will be taken care of, so Christians need not worry.
  • Up until the industrial revolution, EVERYONE (with the exception of those in high stations) had to learn to live off the land, and in arrogant fashion, some preachers condemn this as if it's a heresy! A few hundred years ago, most people knew how to grow things, what plants are good to eat, and how to hunt because that's basic living and survival practices, and yet those Christians who learned those basic things still preached the Gospel. (e.g. Foxe's Book of Martyrs tells of men who died in persecution who loved working in the fields and gardens in God's nature, but some preachers would lead you to believe that doing such things is anti-biblical.)
I do not endorse Alex Jones beacuse even though there are a number of factual things he presents on his show, he claims he is a Christian, but he never shares the Gospel. I don't see the fruits of the spirit in Jones, and he also endorses pagan religions on their website through advertising. I'm simply explaining the kind of accusations I will receive from those desperate to hang on to a Pre-Trib concept, for whatever reason they secretly hold, and seek to place ad hominem attacks on me (and other Christians like me) because I tell them the truth of the Scriptures concerning the end-times.

Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
-Galatians 4:16

Others condemn me because a wicked, hateful man named Steven Anderson, who has many false teachings and practices, doesn't believe in Pre-Trib, so therefore, if you don't believe in Pre-Trib, you must be a supporter of Anderson. Again, this another horrible argument that bases one's final authority on Steven Anderson, rather than God's Word. This is also a logical fallacy known commonly as "guilt by association," which is just trying to make an opponent's argument look wrong by associating it with wicked people.

For example, Mormons are cultists, and they use a King James Bible, but that doesn't automatically mean the King James Bible is Mormon cult material. Likewise, Steven Anderson is a false preacher in many areas, and he accepts a Post-Trib (Pre-Wrath) position, but that dosen't automatically make the Post-Trib position false. Guilt-by-association is a childish argument that Christians ought not to use because we should study to provide answers from God's Word, instead of slinging mud with evil words.

The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
-Proverbs 15:28

A serious consideration: If we have a large number of church-goers who believe they will be raptured out before the final tribulation hits, that means we have a large number of people claiming to be Christians who do not believe they will be here to see the Abomination of Desolation. When the Abomination of Desolation happens, they won't make the connection of the final antichrist standing in the temple because they believe they will be raptured out before his appearance, which means they will be very vunerable to his deception, and they won't see the signs of the coming of Jesus Christ.

Though we do not carry out the punishments for sin that the Israelites did (because Jesus Christ freed us from the bondage of the law), the Hebrews were commanded to put to death those who claimed to be prophets and were proven false. This is how seriously God takes this matter:

If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
-Deuteronomy 13:1-5

Our Lord Jesus Christ takes the matter of false prophets very seriously, and the false prophecies of Pre-Trib, born out of the hearts and minds of those who defy the Word of God (Catholic Jesuits and charismatics), is being carried on by those who are deceived by the Devil and his demons. I plead with Christians to turn away from the doctrines of false prophets and turn to the Word of God.



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It doesn't matter what we want to believe, or how we feel about something, the Bible says we Christians are not promised peace and safety to escape out of all tribulation in a secret Pre-Trib rapture scenario. That's a lie from the Devil, coming out of the mouths of new-age apostates and false prophets.

For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
-1 Thessalonians 5:3

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
-2 Timothy 3:12

Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
-Acts 14:22

Though suffering, persecution, and tribulation are what we must face, we do so knowing that this life is short, and eternity is forever. We comfort one another with the words that we have the eternal promise of God that will be with Christ forever afterwards.

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
-1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

And after the time of tribulation, when Christ comes back to rule and reign forever, we will not only come back with him and his army to put an end to Satan and his hold over the world, but we will also enter into a thousand-year reign of Jesus Christ as King on Earth.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
-Revelation 20:4

The earth will also be remade new:

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
-Revelation 21:1

For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
-Isaiah 65:17

Notice Isaiah says heavens plural, and if you read our article on "Geocentricism vs Heliocentricism," you'll remember that the heavens are divided up between our atmosphere, outer-space, and where God resides. This means that it is speaking of more than one of these three. In this context, it would mean God is making a new atmosphere and outer-space (remember the stars will fall from heaven at the end of the tribulation), which means is going to create a new universe!

And we also will have restored bodies, made new and clean:

For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
-Phillipians 3:21

From the early church around the first century, the church of Christ has consistently taught a Post-Trib position, which is clearly taught, and fits in perfectly to all correlating Scirpture. However, the PRE-Trib takes a lot of mental gymnastics to accept. Let's stick to the Word of God, and continue to beware the traditions and rudiments (first teachings) of men:

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
-Colossians 2:8





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QUESTION: Is the new "Pre-Wrath" position Biblical?

The Pre-Wrath position states that somewhere in the middle of the tribulation, before the Day of the Lord comes, the Christians will be raptured out, and then God will pour out his wrath on the unbelievers. This is almost the same as the Pre-Trib position, it's just that it includes SOME of the tribulation, but still excludes other parts.


Most of the foundation for this argument will come from 1Th 5:9...

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
-1 Thessalonians 5:9

Those who do not obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ are appointed to the wrath of God, but nowhere in this chapter does it state any secret mid-trib rapture. When it speaks of the Day of the Lord, and His wrath being poured out on the wicked, the born-again saved Christians will not suffer his wrath. The Bible tells us who the wrath is aimed at:

For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
-Isaiah 2:12

The wrath of God is aimed at those who have not come in repentance to the foot of the cross of Christ.

Consider also that Noah and his family were not raptured out of wrath, but God protected them from His wrath of judgment on the world. Further more, consider how the Hebrews were not raptured out of wrath, but God protected them from His wrath of judgment on Egypt.

The new-age concepts are seeking to take as much suffering away from Christians as possible, but the Bible tells us that we would suffer as Christ suffered.

Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
-John 15:20

So when a Christian seeks after a doctrine that takes away any part of their persecution and suffering, they believe themselves to be greater than Jesus Christ. Christ did not suffer the wrath of God, but Christ was also not raptured away. Jesus Christ did not pray that we would be taken out of the world in some secret Pre-Trib or Pre-Wrath rapture, but rather, He prayed that we would NOT be taken out of the world.

While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled... I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
-John 17:12-19

God sanctifies (sets apart) His children, but does not take them out of the world until the END of the world, which will happen at the one-time event of Christ's return. Though we fear God, it is only the wicked unbeliever that must fear God's wrath.

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
-Matthew 13:39

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
-Matthew 28:20

Christians will be in the world until its end. God's wrath is specfically aimed at those who do not have Christ's blood cleansing their souls.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
-Romans 1:18

Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God.
-Romans 2:4-11

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
-Romans 5:8-9

The Pre-Wrath view is simply an attempted compromise between Pre-Trib and Post-Trib, but the Bible does not compromise, so neither should born-again Christians.



ARGUMENT: The parables of Matthew 13 are not referring to the rapture of Christians. It's talking about the time after the 1000-year millennial reign of Christ.

A Pre-Trib person who make this argument is blinded to the Scripture, and I'll demonstrate it. Matthew 13 is specifically pointing to the rapture of the Church of Christ.

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
-Matthew 13:24-30

Before we get into Christ's interpretation of this parable, notice that the good man did not take the wheat out of the field before the tares, nor did he take the tares out before the wheat, but rather, both should grow together, and then harvest them together while separating them out. And next, Jesus tells us what all this means:

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
-Matthew 13:36-43

So when will the angels throw the wicked people into the lake of fire?

And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
-Revelation 19:20

The wicked are thrown into the lake of fire, and then Satan is bound for a thousand years.

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
-Revelation 20:1-3

Those wicked are thrown into the lake of fire BEFORE the 1000-year reign of Christ. Many people typically confuse this with Satan being thrown into the lake of fire, which doesn't happen until the end of the 1000-year reign of Christ, but Matthew 13 is referring to the tares, which are the children of the wicked one, who are thrown into the fire during the harvest.

Many Pre-Trib folks are blinded to these verses because they come to the Bible with a presupposition of a Catholic false prophecy, and there is no reason for born-again Christians to turn to false prophets to gain understanding.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
-2 Timothy 4:3-4





ARGUMENT: Matthew 24 has nothing to do with the rapture because Matthew knew nothing of the rapture.

I was really surprised when I saw this argument made by a born-again Christian in a comment on our youtube video teachings because this argument imploys heresy if it's true. This directly implies that in order for a prophecy to be true, the prophet must first have full knowledge of the events he/she is prophesying.

And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
-Daniel 12:8-9

In this passage, we have Daniel receiving a prophetic dream that he wrote down, and when it was finished, he told the Lord God that he heard everything, but he didn't understand any of it. If the above argument is true, then we must apply that to all prophets in the Bible, which would mean that we can throw out the book of Daniel because none of his prophecy could be true since he knew nothing about the prophecies he was writing down. Even brand-new Christians, with a bit little reasoning, can see that it is ludicrious to think that a prophet must first know everything about the prophecy before the prophecy can be true, because all that knowledge is coming from the Holy God.

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
-Matthew 24:4

Further still, we need to recognize that Matthew 24 is Jesus Christ's answer to the apostles. It's not the prophecy of Matthew, Mark, or Luke, it's the prophecy directly from the mouth of Jesus Christ, which means that the above argument is heavily implying that Jesus Christ Himself doesn't know what He's talking about, or rather, Jesus Christ needs Matthew's understanding (i.e. approval) in order to be understood.

And after addressing those heresies, we come to the final point:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24:30-31

Here, we have angels sounding the trumpet, Jesus Christ descending from Heaven, and the angels gathering together those born-again in Christ from all over the world. If someone still believes this is not referring to the rapture, then that someone must be blinded to the Scripture, and there's nothing more I can do to help him/her. (i.e. The above argument is heretical and completely absurd.)



ARGUMENT: Revelation 3 mentions what the Spirit says to the churches, but that Spirit is not mentioned after Revelation 3, so therefore, everything after is only for the Jews.

There are many levels of absurdity in this argument, yet I have had numerous Christians write me this. In Revelation 2 & 3, the Bible says the following:

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
-Revelation 3:22

Pre-Trib folks then compare this to chapter 13, where it says:

If any man have an ear, let him hear.
-Revelation 13:9

The conclusion is that because it doesn't say "what the Spirit saith unto the churches," therefore, we should turn to Roman Catholic Jesuit false prophecies and believe that Christians get raptured out beforehand, or in other words, they believe that there are no believers on the Lord Jesus Christ present in the world at this time.

First of all, if we're going to use an argument, let's apply that argument to other Scriptures as well to test it. In Matthew 13, Jesus Christ is giving the parable of the wheat and the tares (remember, this is the part where it says the wheat and tares get pulled out together and "the harvest is the end of the world," which Pre-Trib folks tend to ignore), and He says:

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
-Matthew 13:41-43

So if what the Pre-Trib folks believe is true, then when we shine forth in the Kingdom of God, the Spirit of the church won't be there because it's not mentioned. The problem here is because Revelation 13:9 does not contain the phrase "Spirit of the church," therefore, they ASSUME that they're all going to be taken out of the world before anything bad happens, ignoring the parable of the fig tree, and turning to Catholic Jesuit false prophecy.

There are many times the Lord Jesus Christ addresses all who will hear, but in Revelation 2 & 3, He's not only addressing all who will hear, but specifically saying who the message is directed to; that is, the churches of believers on Him. The entire argument is based on assumption.

Further still, if what the Pre-Trib folks say is true, that the followers of Christ are out of the world after chapter 3, then there are other places that simply do not make sense anymore. For example:

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
-Revelation 17:6

How could the woman be drunk with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus, when there were no followers of Jesus to kill? However, if we reject Roman Catholic false prophecies, and turn back to the Word when it tells us we will suffer tribulation and martyring before Christ returns, then this verse makes perfect sense.

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
-Revelation 6:11

Again, as we mentioned earlier, there are Christians on the earth during the end-times, and there is no indication they have been secretly raptured out.


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