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Law/Legal / Re: Update on our Small Claims Lawsuit
« on: September 17, 2020, 02:12:55 PM »
I have no clue what you're talking about. It does not make any sense to me at all, and I do not recall giving out his and her name and address at any time.

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Law/Legal / Update on our Small Claims Lawsuit
« on: September 17, 2020, 11:58:32 AM »
As many in our church are aware, we have a small claims lawsuit we have filed against our neighbors down the street because their two dogs got loose and killed a few of our chickens. We ended up having to shoot the dogs to prevent other chickens from getting injured or killed.

The defendants in the case have filed a counter-claim against us, and not only did I suspect they would do that, I was hoping they would because this is only going to help our case.

Without going into too many details, we have three eye witnesses to the event. We have the eyewitness testimonies of the deputies who were on the scene just after it all happened. We have eyewitnesses to testify that they were harassing Lorraine's employees, and to prove that they lied to the authorities about it to avoid citations. (I am also in the process of getting photographs that were taken by deputies.) We have a the documentation of a court case in 2010, in which the male defendant was prosecuted for eight counts of animal neglect/abandonment, of which we have been told that in order to avoid jail time, he made a plea deal with the judge to never own animals again in Shelby County.

We are now being counter-sued by the defendants for almost $3,000, and though I appreciate all the prayer towards this matter, there is very little to be concerned about here because Lorraine and I were laughing at their counter-claim. For an explanation of damages, they wrote:
"Loss of two dogs. We had 2 Husky dogs that counter defendant Christopher Johnson shot + killed. He lurd [sic] them in his yard + shot them. No evidence they killed his chickens."

Lorraine and I started laughing because they did not even bother to look up and read the Sheriff's report! The judge is probably going to scold them for wasting his time.

All the eyewitnesses to the event will be on our side of the courtroom. There was a woman on Facebook who made a comment insinuating that we "lurd" (i.e. lured) the dogs onto the property, but when the deputy investigated, she backpedaled because she said she did not see anything at all. (i.e. The town I live in is a rumor mill.)

But now they are suing us for damages, pain & suffering, AND lost wages. When I mentioned "lost wages" to Lorraine over the phone when I told her about this, she literally responded: "WHAT?!" ... and then we laughed.

I need to contact the courthouse and see if I am allowed to audio record the hearing because this is going to be comical. Although I always get nervous and shaky anytime I have to speak publicly, I am looking forward to this. The court date is set for Sept 29 at 1:00pm.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: My name is Heather Taylor
« on: September 14, 2020, 07:40:16 PM »
A person who has come to Jesus Christ through true repentance and faith... you do not have to "get them on fire for Jesus." You do not have to convince them to hear the truth. I'm thankful to the Lord Jesus Christ for showing you the truth of His Word, and now, you do not need all the gimmicks of new-age church buildings to keep you in line because you serve your master now. Those who have come to repentance understand this, but those who follow the new-age definitions of repentance just cannot understand, and they keep following after the lies and traditions of men, even among those who claim to expose the lies and traditions of men.

But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
-2Ti 3:13

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Due to YouTube's anti-American, bigoted, ridiculous, and communist political policies, I cannot upload this week's teaching for a few more days to do "Hate Speech" strikes on my YouTube channel. I will edit this post later with the embed for the YT video, but if you want to listen to this week's teaching, go to the audio page and download it because I make those available every week:


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Law/Legal / Re: Pastors vs Government
« on: September 13, 2020, 12:42:51 AM »
I had forgotten to the change the category. It should be fixed now.

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Law/Legal / Re: Pastors vs Government
« on: September 12, 2020, 12:46:32 PM »
No, it's not just a casual "GCC is 501c3, so they have to obey the orders," because we have to remember that 501c3 means the church organization is an INDIRECT GOVERNMENT ENTITY, which means, if the state chose to do so, they would be in the right to shut down GCC by force. The only reason they will not do it right now is because it would not be popular with the community, and currently, most citizens are not pleased with their state government lock downs, which means it would not be a good move because media would immediately jump on it and get the public hyped up in anger, despite the fact that the government would be justified to do so, and yet, with the danger of the Marxist, communist, domestic terrorism going on right now from Black Lives Matter, it would not be wise to divert resources, and thus, GCC knows the government will do nothing at this time.

GCC is required to close its doors until their true master, the government, says otherwise. We, however, have signed no contract with the government, and therefore, those orders are nothing more than suggestions that we will ignore.

The reason we are justified and GCC is not is because GCC is an indirect government entity (and their church building U.S. military infrastructure) via the 501c3 contract they agreed to in order to take special tax benefits from U.S. citizens (i.e. U.S. taxpayers who have to make up for GCC, who does not pay taxes).

John MacArthur is violating his contract, I am convinced he, and his staff, KNOW they are violating their contract, and they have all heard the Word of God, so they know they will be judged, but again, as any typical mainstream megachurch, they think being "under grace" means you have free ticket to sin, despite that they might stand on pretense to teach their audience otherwise.

They know that, while their doors are closed, they will not make as much money in donations. That's what it really comes down to; because GCC are a den of robbers, and therefore, their attitude is that everyone else should carry a burden, not being able to work and do their jobs, but not GCC.

And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
-Luke 11:46

Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations? Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.
-Jeremiah 7:8-11


Thus, they are sinning by lying against their government contract (i.e. breaking their word), and at the same time, violating Romans 13, which John MacArthur himself has hypocritically preached the following:
"Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. That is an unqualified statement. It doesn't qualify who those governing authorities are and it doesn't qualify what subjection might mean. Therefore we can conclude that we have an unqualified, unmitigated command to be subjected to the governing authorities, whatever they are."
-John MacArthur, "Why Christians Submit to the Government," Grace To You, Jan 30, 2011, retrieved Aug 27, 2015, [gty.org/Resources/Sermons/80-364]

unqualified (adj): complete, unlimited
unmitigated (adj): absolute

(See 'unqualified' & 'unmitigated', Random House Dictionary, 2015, [www.dictionary.com]; See also Collins English Dictionary, 10th Edition, William Collins Sons & Co, 2012)

John MacArthur is a very wealthy liar and hypocrite, and I have had him on my radar for some time, considering doing a "Wolves in Costume" to expose him for what he is.

See 501c3: The Devil's Church for more details.

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Law/Legal / Youtube Censorship Again
« on: September 09, 2020, 10:43:31 AM »
I got my second YouTube strike this year, and it was once again a video exposing Steven Anderson's railing and false doctrines. I cannot expose certain false teachers on YouTube without hitting their "Hate Speech" auto-filter; this is why some of you may have noticed that many content creators will censor their own words, even when just reading news and information.

One strike is a warning that lasts for a few months. Two strikes within a short time will prevent me from uploading for a number of weeks. Three strikes within a short time will shut down the channel. I have no idea what they will look for, when they will find something that violates their ridiculous policies, nor when I will be shut down.

I want everyone to understand that I could have my entire channel removed at any moment. I could still be on YouTube for another 10 years, or I could have it removed next week, so if anyone is reading this and relies on YouTube to listen to what I preach, you are walking on thin ice because I do not know how much longer I will be on there.

This is why I have encouraged everyone, many times, to go to the website to read or listen to anything. I re-upload some of my videos to internet archives, where they do not have retarded political censorship. Internet Archives allows me to embed the videos I upload, so they will still be available on the articles and books I produce.

For now, God has allowed me to continue unhindered on my website. However, that could also change in the future depending on future presidents and congressmen who may attempt to initiate general internet censorship for their so-called "hate speech." It will not just be certain words, but eventually, general concepts, and even the King James Bible, will be censored, so we should thank God for the time he has allowed us to be free to preach. I do not believe that time is coming very soon, but it could be for all we know.

I will continue to upload my teachings and other certain videos to YouTube, but I have a backlog of all the videos I have uploaded on my computer and a back-up drive, so I can re-upload things to another platform just in case. There are some videos I am no longer even attempting to bring to YouTube, so again, go to the website if you want all the teachings and other content that I produce.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi I am Wayne
« on: September 05, 2020, 01:22:01 PM »
Okay, I hope you will keep to your word and depart in peace.

Folks, this is what I was waiting for him to do, that is, the angry slap-and-run we have seen so many times here. Let's break down what he said and then we can move on...




Lol where did I actually defend hillsong?
After pointing out to Wayne that the article had nothing to do with Christ, and that Hillsong was a corrupt organization that was not of Christ, and that Justin Bieber was not a Christian, his only response to that was...
But it is still possible for people to be saved by either him or Hillsong.
In fact, I would say it is less likely that someone can get saved through Hillsong than they could through the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church worships at the throne of antichrist. At least in the Catholic Church, you will occasionally hear the law of God, even if only some, but in Hillsong, it is unlikely that you will ever hear the law of God.

For example, if I noticed mold growing on a hot dog, and I said, "That's disgusting, throw that away!" but Wayne jumped up and immediately said, "I agree, but hot dogs are still good!" it simply shows me his strange, overbearing affection for hot dogs. Likewise, when someone is pointing out the corruption of things you are talking about, and then you defend that thing anyway, it demonstrates the corruption within that person, that they are defending the worldly things of this life.
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
-1Jo 2:15




I'll rephrase what I said. It's possible for someone to get saved by someone's testimony whether or not the one giving the testimony is saved.
I am more than willing to accept the concept of someone getting saved by someone else's testimony, if you can show me that in Scripture. Sadly, he left before attempting to do that.

Essentially, it comes down to justifying his presupposition. Wayne does not have enough understanding of Scripture to show us where a testimony saved someone, even if that was possible, but the main point is that because he believes he was "saved" by reading some arbitrary article about Justin Bieber, therefore, in his mind, it must be true that someone can be saved by reading a testimony. That was a statement based on his emotional bias, not a statement based on the facts of God's Word.



I am not a Justin Bieber fan or a fan of hillsong for that matter.
I do not recall saying that he was. However, I also think he's lying to a degree. The person who leads you to Christ, or your first teacher in Christ, you always end up having some attachment to that person early on. That may not define you as a "fan," but certainly a sense of endearment.

The problem with Justin's so-called "testimony," which was really a publicity stunt to get him back into good graces with the public after his arrests, is that it was the opposite of what God's Word teaches us. Bieber said:
"He doesn't ask us not to have sex for him because he wants rules and stuff. He's like, 'I'm trying to protect you from hurt and pain.' I think sex can cause a lot of pain. Sometimes people have sex because they don't feel good enough. Because they lack self-worth."
No Justin, the problem is that sex outside of marriage is SIN because it violates the law of God, and one violation of the law of God will result in hell and the lake of fire, which is why we need Jesus Christ in the first place. That is what Justin does NOT want to say to his audience because he will NOT attract a following that way. Instead, he goes the new-age route to say, "Guys, the reason you are fornicating so much is because you don't love yourself enough!" That is a lie!
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
-2Ti 3:1-5

These people love themselves all day long, but they do not love God, and they do not love their neighbor. Justin has a form of godliness on the outside that he likes to portray to the public, but inwardly, he is corrupt, and holds a philosophy after vain deceits and traditions of men.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
-Col 2:8

Therefore, whatever fruit comes from Justin is going to be corrupt fruit, and Wayne (by his own admission) is the fruit of Justin Bieber, not of Jesus Christ, which is why he talked so much about Justin, and not at all about Jesus.



You are also ignoring everything else I said.
Everyone, go back and read through this thread, and judge for yourselves if I ignored what Wayne said, or if Wayne ignored what I said.



Talking about Jesus doesn't prove someone is saved.
That is a true statement, and I will bring that back up to you in a moment. However, one who has been saved by the Lord Jesus Christ has no problem talking about Him, and does not have to coaxed into doing it.
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
-Mat 5:15




But fine I'll do it. I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came to the earth to die for our sins. None of us deserve it.
You just said that talking about Jesus does not prove someone is saved. So again, what makes you different from the devils who believe and tremble?
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
-Jms 2:19




Now.
Right now?



Would you like defend your misinterpretation of scripture? Galatians 3:24.
Would you like to explain what you mean when you say I misinterpreted Gal 3:24?

This is typically what is called a "loaded question," which is a logical fallacy. I'm not sure if Wayne understands what that means, but it means it is a question that has a built-in assumption that has not been established in the conversation, and answering the question would make a person look guilty of error no matter how they answer it.

An example of this would be: "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" If a man answered "Yes," it means he was beating his wife, but if he answers, "No," it means he is still beating his wife, so no matter how he answers, he is guilty of something he did not do.

Likewise, If I were to answer "Yes," to Wayne's question, it would mean I am misinterpreting Scripture, and if I answer "No," then it would mean I am a coward and hypocrite who refuses to defend my misinterpretation. Ultimately, deceit is rooted in the heart of a man who asks such loaded questions.

Under normal circumstances, I would just ignore Wayne's childish accusations because I have already answered him according to his folly.
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
-Pro 26:5

However, since there are other readers to this forum, some of them being new Christians, let's do what Wayne refused to do and look closer at Gal 3:21-25...
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Paul is reassuring those who believe that the law is not a violation of the promises of God, as men like Wayne treat, but as he taught the Romans, the law is the knowledge of sin.
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
-Rom 3:20

However, righteousness cannot be achieved by it. Therefore, we should preach the law, as well as preaching Christ crucified, as he goes on to point out:
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
If a man is to understand that he is under sin, he must hear the law of God. If a man is to then understand that he cannot make up for his own sin, he must hear about Christ crucified.

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Before we have faith in Christ, we are judged by the law. Therefore, men need to hear the law by which they are judged, and while they are under the judgment of the law, they have no understanding of the faith, which is revealed to them only after the law is preached.

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
The law is the teacher, which gives us the knowledge of sin, thereby bringing us to our knees in repentance, and if such a man with godly sorrow in his heart comes to the foot of the cross to calls out to the Lord Jesus Christ, he will be saved.

But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Therefore, having the righteousness of Christ imputed to us, we are no longer judged under the law, but we are judged according to grace, which is not to say that we can do and say whatever we please, but we must then abide in the commandments of Christ as His servants.

There are many more correlating Scriptures I can provide, but I will wait to see if Wayne ready to explain specifically what I misinterpreted, and provide his Scriptural backing for it.



You do know what the law is right?
Do you? Justin Bieber does not seem to understand it, and you do not seem to understand Scripture at all, so I am unsure whether you know what you are saying.



Your refusal to acknowledge that tells me something about you.
Did you all see what he just did? He vaguely accused me of misinterpreting Scripture (through a loaded question) and not understanding what the law of God is, and then, without any time for me to respond, he immediately jumps to the conclusion that I have refused to address his concerns, and then jumps far out beyond that conclusion to act like he has "discovered" this secret thing about me.

Frankly, what he is doing is a type of revenge. I used Scripture in comparison to his words to determine things about him that he did not want to hear. Therefore, he thought he could get "revenge" by doing something similar, only that instead of using God's Word, he used lies and logical fallacies to try and accomplish the same goal, and it should be noted that the more he talks, the more convinced I am that he is a false convert that is lying about his belief in Christian doctrine to try and justify himself and his sin.



How could run a ministry for this long and not know what the law is! That is sad.
Again, these are assumptions. I have hundreds of teachings online, and I would encourage anyone to go over the commentary I wrote on the book of Romans to judge for yourself if I understand the law of God or not.
The Book of Romans: My Notes on Chapters 1-5
The Book of Romans: My Notes on Chapters 6-10
The Book of Romans: My Notes on Chapters 11-16

Now that I have provided evidence against Wayne's claims, I would like to see the evidence that Wayne understands the law of God. Oh, wait... we can't. He left. That was awfully convenient for him, wouldn't you say? Almost like a... how would you put it? Slap-and-run?



After studying scripture and thinking more about what happened I have realized what happened that night. That was the Holy Spirit.
No, it was not because that is not how a man is born again in Christ. The Bible makes it very clear:
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
-Mark 1:15

I would challenge anyone to find anywhere Justin Bieber has EVER taught that men should come to godly sorrow of their sins against God, or even Justin preaching the law of God for that matter. Have fun looking.



It did heal me from a sinful lifestyle.
I doubt it because you are lying and deceiving in this thread alone, which makes your statement not true.



I can only assume that I was unsaved before that.
If you want to base eternity on an assumption, you are free to do so, but I would not recommend it. I would much rather put my faith in the Word of God than my personal feelings.



Lastly I will voluntarily depart from here. If your pastor doesn't even know what the law is I don't want to be here.
When did I ever say I was a pastor? And again, more assumptions. Wayne did not want to hear the Word of God, and I warned him that he would not find what he was looking for here because he hates the rebuke of the Lord God in the Bible. He claims to have the Holy Spirit, but then rejects the Holy Spirit's teaching in the Word of God.

We can only pray that the Lord God would show Wayne as much mercy as He has shown us, that Wayne might hear the law, come to repentance, and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for his justification because faith in Bieber is a one-way ticket to hell.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi I am Wayne
« on: September 04, 2020, 11:18:31 PM »
He never said that is where he was saved. He just said he read the article, and "guessed" a "peace" he felt was the Holy Spirit. It's exactly the kind of nonsense Hillsong and other religious cults teach, so it makes sense that he is defending Hillsong while giving that kind of testimony, but he did not say he was saved at that point; in fact, he never said when he was, and hinted at being born into Christianity from a young age because he attended church buildings. It's just bizarre all around because it has nothing to do with what Scripture tells us.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi I am Wayne
« on: September 04, 2020, 09:09:57 AM »
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I agree with that. But it is still possible for people to be saved by either him or Hillsong. Of course any Born-Again Christian wouldn't stay there very long. Some time ago I checked Bieber.s Instagram and I was very disappointed with what I saw.
First of all, I can barely read what you wrote with all the red background you put on your words.

Secondly, your agreement or disagreement with what I said is irrelevant. What you did was simply say, "You're right, nothing in my testimony is reflective of the Gospel of Christ," and then you are just willing to move on from there without any concern. Frankly, that is how I expected you to respond because that is the lukewarm attitude I have seen from you thus far, but it is ludicrous that you would think that everyone here would just ignore that and accept you as a member of the body of Christ.

Finally, your immediate objection was to try and defend Hillsong. Wayne, I am not convinced for a second that you are born again in Christ, and you are certainly not like-minded with the church. You are welcome to stay and have discussions with us, as anyone is welcome to do so as long as they behave themselves and follow the rules, but I have no confidence that you are not part of the church of Christ, and therefore, you are not one of us.

Again, I will point you to what you need to hear (i.e. this link to audio teaching):
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi I am Wayne
« on: September 03, 2020, 12:08:30 PM »
Hello Wayne. If you were coming here looking for born again Christians, you found them. However, I'm not yet sure you will be pleased with what you find here, and I want you to understand my meaning.

Essentially, I am not reading any conversion to Jesus Christ in what you are writing. What you wrote is mostly the same dime-a-dozen, lukewarm so-called "testimonies" that we typically hear from churchgoers who believe they are Christians because they "go to church." In review of what you have written so far, I will attempt to summarize what you have told us, and then compare that with what the Bible says:
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February 9, 2019, I was reading an article online about Christian marriage, as I was reading it, this sudden feeling of bliss and peace overcame me and it lasted for four days (I guess that was the Holy Spirit). Before that I was an angry fornicator with an anxiety disorder (i.e. what most people would call mentally ill). I would go to sleep angry and wake up angry, the worst part is that most of the time I didn't have any reason to be angry. This anger would cause me to act out, I would yell and break things. I am now convinced that most personality disorders are some type of demonic possession. I am also a recovering alcoholic and have been sober for almost six years. I have since repented of my old ways and for most the last year and a half I have spent regretting most of my adult life. As for my background. My family is dysfunctional. My extended family is huge, but when someone dies hardly anybody ever attends the funeral. For most of my life I called myself a Christian, but I rarely prayed or read the Bible.
I found this site a few months ago, I don't remember what I was looking up though. I joined because I am looking for a place with other Born again Christians.
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As a child my grandmother told my mother to start sending my brother and I to church, as an adult I stopped going. So like I already said, for most of my life I considered myself a Christian but I never prayed or read the Bible. As far repentance is concerned I don't think it means to turn. I haven't just stopped sinning if that's what you're worried about. "Grief and Godly sorrow" yes I have felt that. Is that what you're asking for?

Here is the summary:
  • You attended church buildings as a child.
  • You stopped going to church buildings as an adult.
  • You called yourself a Christian while you lived with a strange family.
  • You were committing sin. (e.g. fornication, drunkenness, wrath, etc)
  • In Feb of 2019, you read an article on Justin Bieber and "felt peace."
  • In Sept of 2020, you joined the CLE Forum.
Did I leave out anything? Let's take a closer look at that by comparing it with Scripture.
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
-2Co 13:5


The Bible says that a man is converted unto Christ by the hearing of the law:
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
-Gal 3:24
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
-Psa 19:7


As we can see, nothing like this was ever mentioned in your posts, which indicates to me that your faith is in a false gospel because there is only one way to come to God the Father, and that is through Jesus Christ:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
-John 14:6

And Jesus taught very clearly that we must repent (i.e. have godly sorrow of our wrongdoing) and believe on the of Son of God, in His shed blood for our souls, that he died and rose from the dead to save us:
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
-Mark 1:15


Where in those verses did you see anything about reading an article on Justin Bieber? (And yes, that was an article on Bieber, not an article on marriage.) Did you notice that the article you claimed was on "marriage" did not quote the Bible one time? Did you notice that the author did not mention the Lord Jesus Christ one time, even though they had a hashtag for "Jesus?"

Those who have actually experienced godly sorrow and come to faith in Jesus Christ do not leave that out or casually forget to talk about it, especially among brethren, because they know what it means. I do not believe you know what it means. I am not saying for sure that you are not born again in Christ, but I am saying for sure that I am not reading any evidence whatsoever, and I do not believe you have heard and understood the Gospel of Christ.
But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
-Mat 13:23


Did you notice, in your testimony, and in your very short explanations in all your posts so far, you have not mentioned Jesus once? You did not talk about the law, guilt, sin, repentance, faith, or even what the Bible says. You talk a lot about Christianity, and nothing about Christ and His Word, and everything you are saying so far is just the average, sleepy, lukewarm so-called "testimony" that we see all the time from people who are just playing church, and although that might make you angry, it is the truth.

Therefore, there is a short book I wrote that is free-to-read on our website, and that is what I would recommend for you. It's called:
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell

What I think what happened is that you were looking some things up on a technical topic (I do not know which one for sure, maybe on psychology), and you found someone who did some thorough and solid research that you liked, and so you decided you wanted to be around those kinds of people. That is not conversion, that is not repentance, and that is not faith in Christ.

I tell you these things for your sake, that you might hear and understand, so your soul might be saved on the coming day of judgment.
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
-2Ti 2:25-26


As a side note: No, Justin Bieber is not a Christian, nor is the organization he is associated with (i.e. Hillsong) a Christian organization. It is run and operated by heretics that lure in false converts with a false gospel message, and I will be releasing a new book on that subject soon. (i.e. It will be free-to-read on our website as well.)

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What's New @ CLE / (CORRECTION) Revivalism & Joel 2
« on: August 28, 2020, 05:01:34 PM »
One of our listeners pointed out to me that I had spoken error in the teaching, Revivalism: The Devil's Design, concerning Joel 2:28. Originally, I had written that Joel 2:28 specifically was prophesying of the last days of this world, but that was not the case. Joel 2:28 was specifically fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2.

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
-Joel 2:28

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
-Acts 2:16-17


In fact, I did not remember writing any such thing when the man wrote me to inform me of the error, and I thought for a while about why I had written that, but I could not figure out why I wrote that error. I do not know if I had been influenced by someone else, or if I had read or interpreted something incorrectly; I have no idea.

I'm sorry if anyone was confused, or if I gave anyone the wrong idea in what I had previously written. I spent a few days re-writing the entire teaching to correct and polish it.

However, the error has been fixed, and the teaching should now be correct. The man I was rebuking on this point was still incorrect, and I go on to explain his misuse of the phrase "the last days," explaining his error on the context.

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What's New @ CLE / (RENOVATED) Revivalism: The Devil's Design
« on: August 28, 2020, 04:51:33 PM »
I have been working all week to renovate this teaching since it was poorly written and had some errors in it. I also added in new Scriptures and links to updated teachings.

As I went through this teaching again, I was reminded about a quote from Charles Spurgeon when he was exposing the deception of the Revivalism Movement, which was picking up popularity in his day, and I hope this quote will have more impact on you all today, considering all the struggle we have gone through to teach the Biblical understanding of repentance, which is godly sorrow of wrongdoing:

"Sometimes we are inclined to think that a very great portion of modern revivalism has been more a curse than a blessing, because it has led thousands to a kind of peace before they have known their misery; restoring the prodigal to the Father's house and never making him say, 'Father, I have sinned.' How can he be healed who is not sick? or he be satisfied with the bread of life who is not hungry? The old-fashioned sense of sin is despised, and consequently a religion is run up before the foundations are dug out. Everything in this age is shallow. Deep-sea fishing is almost an extinct business so far as men's souls are concerned. The consequence is that men leap into religion, and then leap out again. Unhumbled they came to the church, unhumbled they remained in it, and unhumbled they go from it."
-Charles H. Spurgeon, The Sword and the Trowel, 1882, p. 545, [Oxford University]


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I misspoke; I meant that I don't know if I have taught on that anywhere else, meaning that I may or may not have mentioned it in another teaching, and if I have not, I should probably make sure to write it down and reference it somewhere.

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I don't remember if I have taught on that anywhere, but the root word where we get the word 'repent' is the same root where we get the word 'penal', both meaning to make one sorry for wrongdoing. 'Penal' is also connected to the word 'penance', and none of the above are works.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi! I am John!
« on: August 20, 2020, 03:30:12 PM »
As much as John put on an outward appearance when he came onto this forum, his purpose was to join our church, and sadly, we had to reject him from the church. I wanted to post this so you all understood what was going on.

If you read John's initial post, he says that he came out of the Catholic Church, but nowhere in his post did you see one mention of the Lord Jesus Christ, not one mention of his sin, or guilt, or repentance of sin, or anything that even remotely indicated that he was converted and born again in Christ.

I want to remind everyone that the Bible does NOT say, "If thou shalt leave the Catholic Church and confront thy priest, thou shalt be saved." After John had put in a request to join our church, one of our members asked him for a testimony because there was no testimony in his introduction post, but John simply copy/pasted his introduction post above to answer that inquiry, and that sent a red flag up in many of our minds.

One of the elders of our church began to question him on specific details about his conversion unto Christ, and each time he question him, John would change the subject away from his own sin, and talk about the sins of the Catholic Church. He never confessed one thing, and then when the same elder pointed that out to him, he changed the subject against to complain about how many "edification" points he had, demonstrating that a number on the side of his profile was more important to him than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

To this, I wrote my own response in support of our elder that had addressed John, and it was at that point, John said:
"From the very beginning, though I have been treated with kindness from other members in the forum, I have sensed that you and some of the other members had some dislike for me. The recent posts from you and Tim confirms a lot of my suspicions.
If you do not like me or disagree with, that's fine - I will not waste your time, and more importantly, my time. There are no hard feelings and I will leave peacefully. I do, however, pray that God rebukes you and the involved members for the biased actions and intentions against me."


What he ended up doing is using your friendly words as an excuse to falsely accuse those of us who told John the truth about his sin. Thus, his reaction was contention and malice, not reasoning from the Scripture. We reasoned to him with many Scriptures, but he refused to hear.
Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease.
-Pro 22:10


This is why I would warn other members of this forum not to just react in immediate gladness when someone joins and says they have left the Catholic Church because many people leave the Catholic Church every year, but they are not born again in Christ. Many have left the Catholic Church to become witches, pagans, and Muslims, so we need to hear their testimony of Christ, not of "Christianity."

Of course, John has said he would leave peacefully, and I hope he was telling the truth, but I have left his account on this forum so that, one day, if the Lord gives him repentance to the acknowledging of the truth so he would be saved, then we might welcome him in, but without repentance and faith in Christ, an actual conversion in which the Holy Spirit makes him born again, he is not of Christ, and we need to make sure John hears that message because the condition of John's soul is INFINITELY more important than expressing niceties over someone joining the forum. We can be friendly, and tell people the truth at the same time, so let's make sure we practice what we preach.

And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
-Mat 10:21-28

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Drugged Up Atheist
« on: August 18, 2020, 02:20:09 PM »
What you are calling validation, and what I am calling excuses--I think we mean the same thing. If a sinful man rejects the godly sorrow of repentance, then he will look for an excuse or validation.
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;
-Rom 2:15


Thus, their "savior" becomes the validation, whether it be "mental illness" or drugs or their psychologist. They cannot come to understanding through those things.

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