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Title: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: creationliberty on October 31, 2018, 12:36:52 PM
When I did the teaching on this, I think I got one part wrong, and I've corrected it on the article.
Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
-1Co 7:5


I had previously taught that all sexual intercourse between a husband and wife should cease during fasting. However, it should cease only IF both parties agree. This is to say that there is no sexual activity WITH CONSENT, which is mutual agreement. If one or both spouses enter into temptation, then sexual intercourse would be allowed, even during times of fasting because it is best to not sin, but if possible, it is better not to do so, that either one or both spouses may cleanse the flesh completely during the fast.

I'm sorry that I taught that on the audio teaching; I can't go back and change it now.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: TruthKeeper on October 31, 2018, 07:41:24 PM
What if a spouse just abstains from sexual relations with their partner... Is that considered sin? No reason for not having sex just doesn't.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: creationliberty on October 31, 2018, 08:41:18 PM
Yes, that's called "defrauding" in the Bible, which is taking from someone anything that rightfully belongs to them. It's another form of theft.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: Jeanne on November 01, 2018, 03:45:54 AM
1 Corinthians 7: 3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: TruthKeeper on November 01, 2018, 10:45:57 AM
This is what I dealt with in my marriage... I had a very difficult time with it and tried to get him to change but he wouldn't. I'm not sure what even causes such an issue with a man?
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: Suelong88 on November 01, 2018, 10:58:06 AM
Ann,
Usually nothing good.  Infidelity or pornography. 
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: TruthKeeper on November 01, 2018, 11:47:54 AM
I really don't think he was doing either... I now believe it had to do with the abuse that he encountered as a child with his mother.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: Suelong88 on November 01, 2018, 01:23:49 PM
Is he able to talk to you about it?  Has he talked with anyone about that?  It definitely seems that he needs some healing in this area.  But he should be able to talk to you and you to him about what you need as well.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: TruthKeeper on November 01, 2018, 03:34:04 PM
Is he able to talk to you about it?  Has he talked with anyone about that?  It definitely seems that he needs some healing in this area.  But he should be able to talk to you and you to him about what you need as well.


We are divorced now and he is remarried.... I was just wondering if this was a sin.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: Jeanne on November 01, 2018, 11:05:33 PM
According to the Bible, yes, it is a sin, and I have dealt with that before myself. And if you cheated on him because you weren't getting anything at home (not criticising you if you did, because I have no room to do that) you will be held accountable for your actions, but he will also be held accountable for causing the situation to exist in the first place.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: TheChickenWhisperer on November 02, 2018, 09:05:46 AM
Ann, if I understand correctly, he remarried, you are released from your marriage bond.

Again, if I am wrong, please correct me.
Title: Re: (CORRECTION) Fasting and Sexual Intercourse
Post by: TruthKeeper on November 02, 2018, 12:18:11 PM
According to the Bible, yes, it is a sin, and I have dealt with that before myself. And if you cheated on him because you weren't getting anything at home (not criticising you if you did, because I have no room to do that) you will be held accountable for your actions, but he will also be held accountable for causing the situation to exist in the first place.


I guess that's where I feel so much guilt. I did cheat on him after years of being rejected. He was not a loving husband. He was angry a lot and treated the children very harshly. At that time it was his own biological children. We never had biological children but we adopted later. I helped him finish raising his teenagers. He was very affectionate towards me when we were dating... couldn't keep his hands off of me. The day we got married that literally changed. It was very confusing to me. I brought it up to him numerous times but he never changed that and I felt unloved. I am sure part of it was from issues I had as a child when my father didn't show me love. I sure didn't understand my emotions about it at that time.