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General Discussion / I'm Finished
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:47:54 PM »
Christian people, I'm finished here. Chris and Tim, please don't send any emails, because I will not be making any more responses to you. I pray God leads you to repentance and to the realization that Chris is self conceited and Pharisaical!

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Law/Legal / Taking Chris before the Throne of God
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:44:50 PM »
I pray the Lord forgives me for wasting my time on you and not being transparent about my concerns with your claims and for trying to have fellowship with a Christian who I know I can't agree with on certain issues. The Lord judge between you and me. I've learned alot and have been humbled through this. But you need to find that same humility and know that you don't have any right criticizing other Christians because they don't agree with you on every issue or have any right to this wicked condemnation of other preachers because they don't match your views on strict definitions of repentance or church/government relationships through 501c3 or this wicked view that a Christian is sinning because he's grateful for other Christian authors who God used to bless people like me and because I express that gratitude. Chris has a sick sense of prideful self righteousness whether he admits it or not. I would never have treated another Christian the way he has treated me!

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Bible Discussion / Re: How Repentance Got Misunderstood!
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:36:29 PM »
That's just Chris being arrogant again. I guess he thinks no one studies scripture quite like himself. Sad

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Bible Discussion / Chris please know...
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:35:32 PM »
Chris, please please PLEASE know that many people that you condemn to Hell are actually going to Heaven. I think Ruckman and Cash went and I think Hovind and Ham and Hoggard are saved and going to Heaven. God did NOT appoint you as Judge in His stead. You quote scripture ALOT but haven't been obeying it either. You're a sad individual and if no one else is going to rebuke you like you need to be rebuked, then I'll do it! You are self righteous and arrogant and elitist. You have respect of yourself in pride and a root of bitterness which is evident in how you falsely accuse other Christians!

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Introduce Yourself / Re: A concern about this website
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:29:01 PM »
You can't be a false accuser Chris,

Chris,
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.

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Evangelism / A rebuke for Chris!
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:27:02 PM »
Chris, I'm praying that you change and repent of your wickedness and false accusations!
Chris,
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.




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Bible Discussion / Re: Righteous anger versus sinful anger
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:21:50 PM »
Chris, if you don't repent of your self righteousness, you may very well be shut out of the Kingdom!

Chris,
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (ARTICLE) 501c3: The Devil's Church
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:19:58 PM »
You need to hear this Chris

Chris,
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.

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Chris, Chris Chris!!!
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello fellow Christians
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:15:59 PM »

Chris,
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.

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General Discussion / Re: Favorite King James Only Books
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:15:14 PM »
Those are all good Christian books worthy of reading for any Christian. Any spiritual problem I may have didnt come from any of those books. And I check EVERYTHING that I read with the King James Bible. I don't state my gratefulness to good Christian authors out of any pride or because I'm heaping teachers, as you accuse me of.

Chris,
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.

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General Discussion / Favorite King James Only Books
« on: May 22, 2019, 02:08:38 PM »
It wasn't overnight that I came to believe that the King James Bible is the pure and preserved words of God. The Lord used many fine authors to help me along. The following are my top five favorite books defending the King James Bible

1. Fighting Back by James L. Melton. This is the first booklet God used to open my eyes to the truth about corrupt Bible versions and the preserved word of God.
Brother Melton is a great Bible teacher and friend amd this booklet is packed with good stuff. He has a talent for giving you lots of info in very few pages.

2. Final Authority by William Grady. An excellent book covering the history of Vaticanus, Sinaiticus, Westcott and Hort, the King James translators and much more!

3. The King James Code by Michael Hoggard. God has shown Brother Hoggard excellent numerical patterns in the King James Bible. A wonderful book.

4. The "Errors" In the King James Bible by Peter Ruckman. A lot of people don't care for Ruckman and I understand that. I can't defend everything the man said either, but I'd be a liar if I said God didn't use his books to bless and encourage me to study scripture. Despite some things I may disagree with in this book, I do think it's a great book.

5. New Age Bible Versions by Gail Riplinger. Despite what many may think of her (I have some problems woth her for sure) this book is an undisputed classic in my mind.

Those are my favourite KJB defense books, how about everyone else?

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Bible Discussion / Re: How Repentance Got Misunderstood!
« on: May 22, 2019, 01:17:14 PM »
True. I looked up verses that had "repent" in them and noticed a bunch of them also had the command to "turn" as well. Not "a study" I suppose lol.

I've also read the Greek definition of the word in the Strong's  The problem with Strong's is that it gives you the root words, which is deceptive, because a word's root meaning isn't always telling you every nuance of meaning or contextual meaning!

Gail Riplinger has an excellent book on that very topic called Hazardous Materials. A great read, although I don't agree with her on everything

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Ever notice how the evolutionist animal classification system often contradicts God's words?

For example, in the Bible any creature that flies is called a "fowl", including the bat in Leviticus 11:13,19. Also, a whale in the Bible is also a fish- Matthew 12:40 with Jonah 1:17. Evolutionists today tend to disagree with those Biblical facts. Also, their idea that plesiosaurs and other creatures were not dinosaurs is stupid, because the word dinosaur was a term invented by a man named Richard Owen in 1841 meaning terrible lizard and a plesiosaur, if encountered today, would probably be a terrible lizard to anybody! The evolutionists are brain dead and I do NOT accept their creature classifications!

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Bible Discussion / How Repentance Got Misunderstood!
« on: May 22, 2019, 10:00:21 AM »
Chris has already done a great job of covering this, so for many of you this post will be moot. However, I did my own study of Repentance in the Bible too and I noticed something!

Now I understand how many have made the mistake of thinking that repent means "to turn"! It's because God also commanded to turn from sin as well. In three out of the following four passages (there are many more) we find the phrases "repent" AND "turn":

But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Ezekiel 18:21

 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. Acts 26:20
And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. Luke 17:4
And finally:
 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?

10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Jonah 3:9-10!








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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Jim Shaw Fan-Girl Rage
« on: May 22, 2019, 03:51:14 AM »
Reading through your book I notice you've done some good research. Very thorough, and you're completely right about all the solar worship connections- Ezekiel 8!!!

There is also a short tract that's good at stating almost everything wrong with Masonry in one tract titled The Plain Truth About the Lodge by Melton at Bible Baptist Publications.org A good summary for those who don't have time to read a whole book on the subject
Come to think of it, anyone who just reads Ezekiel chapter 8 already has access to every Masonic secret!
 

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Jim Shaw Fan-Girl Rage
« on: May 22, 2019, 03:37:05 AM »
Oh cool. Thanks Chris.
As a student of history I still recommend books that contain matters of fact, as Christian people should be able to have discernment to ignore any humanistic philosophy they may contain. But you're right, these authors have nothing to offer that's any good spiritually speaking

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Bible Discussion / A new Christian book on dinosaurs
« on: May 21, 2019, 06:54:57 PM »
I am asking everyone's opinion here. I like dinosaurs and God getting glory for creating them.
 I was in the process of writing a book on dinosaurs in the Bible titled God's Monsters. But there have been so many books written on dinosaurs from the Biblical view that I really don't see a need for another one. Do most of you feel the same way? Why or why not?

Thanks all!

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello fellow Christians
« on: May 21, 2019, 06:02:59 PM »
Gotcha.  :D

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello fellow Christians
« on: May 21, 2019, 05:57:44 PM »
Sure brother. Anyone here has my permission to email me about anything, by the way. I ALWAYS answer emails and love to talk about shared interests :-)

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