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General Discussion / I'm Finished
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:47:54 PM »
Christian people, I'm finished here. Chris and Tim, please don't send any emails, because I will not be making any more responses to you. I pray God leads you to repentance and to the realization that Chris is self conceited and Pharisaical!

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Law/Legal / Taking Chris before the Throne of God
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:44:50 PM »
I pray the Lord forgives me for wasting my time on you and not being transparent about my concerns with your claims and for trying to have fellowship with a Christian who I know I can't agree with on certain issues. The Lord judge between you and me. I've learned alot and have been humbled through this. But you need to find that same humility and know that you don't have any right criticizing other Christians because they don't agree with you on every issue or have any right to this wicked condemnation of other preachers because they don't match your views on strict definitions of repentance or church/government relationships through 501c3 or this wicked view that a Christian is sinning because he's grateful for other Christian authors who God used to bless people like me and because I express that gratitude. Chris has a sick sense of prideful self righteousness whether he admits it or not. I would never have treated another Christian the way he has treated me!

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Bible Discussion / Chris please know...
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:35:32 PM »
Chris, please please PLEASE know that many people that you condemn to Hell are actually going to Heaven. I think Ruckman and Cash went and I think Hovind and Ham and Hoggard are saved and going to Heaven. God did NOT appoint you as Judge in His stead. You quote scripture ALOT but haven't been obeying it either. You're a sad individual and if no one else is going to rebuke you like you need to be rebuked, then I'll do it! You are self righteous and arrogant and elitist. You have respect of yourself in pride and a root of bitterness which is evident in how you falsely accuse other Christians!

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Evangelism / A rebuke for Chris!
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:27:02 PM »
Chris, I'm praying that you change and repent of your wickedness and false accusations!
Chris,
I admit that I sinned against you when I got angry and accused you of being a self righteous Pharisee by questioning my testimony-Ecclesiastes 7:9. I knew in my spirit that there was leaven and pride in you but I accused you without having any solid evidence. THAT was what the Lord convicted me about, THAT and the fact that I even entered dialogue with you or your forum without reading everything you believe first and that I threatened you with a lawsuit that I knew was a stupid statement. You do have some good stuff, but it's all overshadowed by your rash condemnation of good Christians like Mike Hoggard and your accusing churches of having a "devil's church" by having 501c3 status, and other stupidities. After prayer I knew there was something wrong with you spiritually, and that I shouldn't have anything to do with you, but I wanted so bad to be wrong about that and have fellowship with a person I wanted to believe was a good Christian.

You accused me with many false accusations in this post and YOU are the one who has sinned this time!  I just KNEW that you think yourself to be some kind of authority for other Christians and act like a Protestant pope. I have news for you, you're not my pastor and you're not my leader. Also, you're foolish because you have this false confidence about who is going to Heaven and who isn't with statements like "Johnny Cash went to Hell" "Peter Ruckman went to Hell" etc How do you know that!? You really don't. You don't know what went on between God and those men in their last days! Also, I've found that with your statement of people speaking in tongues as all being "Satanic gibberish", you've lumped false tongues with genuine moves of the Spirit and have inadvertently blasphemed through your stupidity. You are a satanic accuser of the brethren no matter how many things you get right and no matter how right you are about people like Billy Graham and Steven Anderson, you are a self conceited false accuser (2 Timothy 3:3, Revelation 12:10) and I'm sorry I've wasted so much time with you. I really wanted to give you another chance. NOW we're done. I want you to delete my account and I never want anything more to do with you or your forum or your church. And remember, I will stay born again and in Christ regardless of your pride and stupidity no matter what you accuse me of.




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General Discussion / Favorite King James Only Books
« on: May 22, 2019, 02:08:38 PM »
It wasn't overnight that I came to believe that the King James Bible is the pure and preserved words of God. The Lord used many fine authors to help me along. The following are my top five favorite books defending the King James Bible

1. Fighting Back by James L. Melton. This is the first booklet God used to open my eyes to the truth about corrupt Bible versions and the preserved word of God.
Brother Melton is a great Bible teacher and friend amd this booklet is packed with good stuff. He has a talent for giving you lots of info in very few pages.

2. Final Authority by William Grady. An excellent book covering the history of Vaticanus, Sinaiticus, Westcott and Hort, the King James translators and much more!

3. The King James Code by Michael Hoggard. God has shown Brother Hoggard excellent numerical patterns in the King James Bible. A wonderful book.

4. The "Errors" In the King James Bible by Peter Ruckman. A lot of people don't care for Ruckman and I understand that. I can't defend everything the man said either, but I'd be a liar if I said God didn't use his books to bless and encourage me to study scripture. Despite some things I may disagree with in this book, I do think it's a great book.

5. New Age Bible Versions by Gail Riplinger. Despite what many may think of her (I have some problems woth her for sure) this book is an undisputed classic in my mind.

Those are my favourite KJB defense books, how about everyone else?

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Ever notice how the evolutionist animal classification system often contradicts God's words?

For example, in the Bible any creature that flies is called a "fowl", including the bat in Leviticus 11:13,19. Also, a whale in the Bible is also a fish- Matthew 12:40 with Jonah 1:17. Evolutionists today tend to disagree with those Biblical facts. Also, their idea that plesiosaurs and other creatures were not dinosaurs is stupid, because the word dinosaur was a term invented by a man named Richard Owen in 1841 meaning terrible lizard and a plesiosaur, if encountered today, would probably be a terrible lizard to anybody! The evolutionists are brain dead and I do NOT accept their creature classifications!

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Bible Discussion / How Repentance Got Misunderstood!
« on: May 22, 2019, 10:00:21 AM »
Chris has already done a great job of covering this, so for many of you this post will be moot. However, I did my own study of Repentance in the Bible too and I noticed something!

Now I understand how many have made the mistake of thinking that repent means "to turn"! It's because God also commanded to turn from sin as well. In three out of the following four passages (there are many more) we find the phrases "repent" AND "turn":

But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Ezekiel 18:21

 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. Acts 26:20
And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. Luke 17:4
And finally:
 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?

10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Jonah 3:9-10!








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Bible Discussion / A new Christian book on dinosaurs
« on: May 21, 2019, 06:54:57 PM »
I am asking everyone's opinion here. I like dinosaurs and God getting glory for creating them.
 I was in the process of writing a book on dinosaurs in the Bible titled God's Monsters. But there have been so many books written on dinosaurs from the Biblical view that I really don't see a need for another one. Do most of you feel the same way? Why or why not?

Thanks all!

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Bible Discussion / Righteous anger versus sinful anger
« on: May 21, 2019, 01:20:07 PM »
One of the hardest things to learn as a Christian (as I recently have) is the very important difference between righteous, godly anger and fleshy, sinful anger.

I have had many occasions where I have justified my sinful anger problem by the Lord's righteous anger that we read about in Matthew 23 and other places.

When God gets angry in scripture, it's because of the disobedience and wickedness of men. That holy anger and indignation is totally righteous and justified. But "The LORD is slow to anger..." as Nahum 1:3 tells us, and as James 1:20 says "For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God." I admit that I get angry when O hear an atheist mock God, I get angry when a so-called Christian mocks or ridicules the King James Bible.

But throughout my life I have had a sinful anger problem as well. The Bible also says in Ephesians 4:31 "Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:" You can't claim to follow Christ and let anger reign in your life, and disobey that verse. I'm not saying you're going to lose your salvation by sinning, but you can't let that sin reign and continue in your life and disobey the Bible. The difference I have found between righteous anger and sinful anger is that sinful anger arises out of your own hurt pride and misunderstandings and the root of bitterness Hebrews 12:15 talks about. May the Lord rid all of us of unrighteous anger!

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General Discussion / Ken Ham's Ark Encounter?
« on: May 21, 2019, 11:22:07 AM »
Ken Ham preaches about obeying and believing the Bible, but is anyone here just as troubled as I am about the huge waste of money the Ark Encounter is?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Christians shouldn't be able to enjoy museums and learning about Bible history. I don't think there's anything wrong with a Bible based museum per session. But the Great Commission of the Lord Jesus doesn't say anything about building Ark replicas or Creation museum and either. Shouldn't that money go to feed missionaries?

Now I'm wondering what Ken Ham believes about repentance too. Again, not trying to condemn anyone unscripturally. But I just don't see these attractions as obeying the Bible. I wonder if it's a sin to even pay money to visit them?

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Bible Discussion / The King James Bible versus the Occult
« on: May 16, 2019, 11:02:56 AM »
In my testimony posted here, I talked about all the garbage I've read on Cryptozoology, Freemasonry, archaeology, alchemy, Atlantis, Holy Grail etc. For years and years I read book after book on that junk, and I'd like to share with everyone here the conclusion I reached after I got familiar with God's perfect Bible:

Next to reading, studying and knowing the King James Bible and having a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, there is NO excitement, NO joy, NO fulfillment, NO knowledge, NO holiness, NO satisfaction, NO contentment, and NO benefit from knowing all that stuff at all. There is just no contest.

The King James Bible is THE greatest Book of spiritual, historical, supernatural, zoological, moral, scientific, philosophical, pure, useful, practical, and fulfilling and satisfying knowledge there is, ever has been or ever will be this side of Heaven. If I had spent as much time in the Bible as I had that other junk, I would be a better Christian and a better and wiser person. It's good to know some of that stuff so you can refute it and cross reference what the Bible says about it, but no Christian should spend too much time on it. I can tell you that there simply is NO occult secret or mystery that's worth digging for that you can't already find in a King James Bible, and we should praise God for that fact!


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Bible Discussion / The King James Bible and Freemasonry
« on: May 15, 2019, 01:09:14 PM »
I find the article on King James and Freemasonry on the Creation Liberty Evangelism website to be top notch! I have researched Freemasonry for a long time as well as the claims of people who accuse King James of being a Mason and accusing the King James Bible as being full of Masonic symbols. The article on the site answers those claims in an excellent manner and is similar to a Facebook article I did last year when I was still on Facebook, before they started censoring my Bible posts!

One of the most misunderstood things about Freemasonry is that so-called "Masonic symbols" are actually symbols they took from the Bible and used for another purpose. Jachin and Boaz, Tubalcain, Solomon's Temple, the Winding Stairs, Jacob's Ladder, the Cornerstone, etc are the Bible's intellectual property, NOT Freemasonry's! Great stuff in your website guys. Just top notch research!

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Introduce Yourself / I am not a Ruckmanite!
« on: May 15, 2019, 10:53:24 AM »
Hey guys. Wanted to say a few things about my stance on the King James Bible and Peter Ruckman. Soon after I got saved, I started reading the publications of James L. Melton of Bible Baptist Church and his stuff led to Peter Ruckman and I was tremendously blessed by their books. However, there are many things that I do NOT agree with Peter Ruckman on, or Melton for that matter. I agree with the men where they agree with scripture, but I part ways when they say one thing and the King James Bible says something different. I am a Bible believer, I am NOT a Ruckmanite!

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Introduce Yourself / A concern about this website
« on: May 14, 2019, 03:28:10 PM »
I can't seem to find a statement of faith anywhere on this site. The concern I have is that I am King James Only, meaning I believe God gave us a perfect translation of the scriptures in 1611. I am NOT a Ruckmanite, though, because there are many things I have never agreed with Peter Ruckman on and never will, so please don't accuse me of following Ruckman. I believe in being nice and respectful and kind to brethren in Christ, but my belief in the King James Bible has caused many Christians to disrespect and belittle my person and intelligence. I also believe God created everything in six days thousands of years ago, which also gets me ridiculed. If these beliefs of mine are unacceptable to the site administration, please go ahead and delete my account. Thanks.

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Introduce Yourself / Hello fellow Christians
« on: May 14, 2019, 03:01:47 PM »
Hello everyone, my name is Nathan Beck (please call me Nate). I am a born again, Bible believing Christian, young earth Creationist, dinosaur enthusiast and Bible student. I am happy to be a part of Creation Liberty Forum :-)

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