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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Wolves in Costume: Kent Hovind p4
« on: May 09, 2022, 01:25:50 PM »123
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Wild Emails @ CLE / Kim Clement Cult Follower Not Happy
« on: April 27, 2022, 11:38:44 PM »
This one's from Telegram, in response to the following banner which tends to make Clement followers enraged. Enjoy.
Just wanted everyone to know that this guy was a false prophet; a total clown. He never predicted Donald Trump would be president, and he never predicted 9/11.
BARBARA:
Listen...You are entitled to believe what you want, and everyone else needs to believe what they want to.
I'm saying this...You, calling anyone a clown, is being very judgemental. You shouldn't be doing that. If someone chooses to listen to, and follow Kim Clement, that's on them. Some good things have come out of him...but basically, like Nostradamus, and other prophets, and soothsayers, it's up to the person who hear what they say, for them to decide on their own what is truth, or lies. I'm just saying that it's up to each person to make up their own minds on who they want to follow. We are all called to watch out for whom we follow. I follow Jesus Christ, first and foremost.
Blessings!!!!!
Yes. It is judging. Because that is what Christians are called to do, to compare a preacher's words with the Word of God to see if they're are true or not:
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
-John 7:24
You just judged me with your comment. So why are you fighting against Christ and refusing to judge righteous judgement? Kim Clement was a liar, a false prophet, and yes, he was a clown. Did you know he prophesied that Eminem and Stephen King were Christian evangelists? Did you know he prophesied that Bill Gates would be a huge financial backer for the church? Did you know that he prophesied that Kim Jong-un was supposed to pass away from being brain dead 15 years ago?
Folks, what she just said is EXACTLY the problem our nation is facing right now:
"it's up to the person who hear what they say, for them to decide on their own what is truth, or lies. Just keep those kind of opinions to yourself."
She fools everyone into thinking she has a reasonable position by saying "it's up to the hearer," but then says to "keep opinions to yourself," meaning that she does not want anyone else speaking anything that contradicts what she believes. This is EXACTLY the ideology of the woke left, and churchgoers adopt that same ideology as soon as they are faced with facts that contradict their presuppositions. (i.e. She wants people who disagree with her to be silent.)
In short, it's hypocrisy, and then she ends it with lies of pretense by saying "blessings" which is the typical church-ianity tropes that put on a fake outward appearance of so-called "goodness," when they actually hate the truth, and they refuse to do any research to study the matter out.
The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
-Pro 15:28
You are acting like a bot or shill. That's my opinion. You have proven it in every aspect of your response.
I said blessings to you, but it wasn't accepted, so I retrieve my blessings on you, as Christ has told us to do, if our blessings are not appreciated.
"You are acting like a bot or shill."
Why are you being so judgmental?
—————
"That's my opinion."
Well, I will tell you the same thing a hypocrite just advised to me: Why don't you let others decide for themselves, and keep your opinions to yourself?
—————
"I said blessings to you, but it wasn't accepted, so I retrieve my blessings on you, as Christ has told us to do, if our blessings are not appreciated."
That is NOT what Christ told Christians to do. If you learned things from Kim Clement and his corrupt yoke, it's no wonder you believe such strange things, but here is what Christ said:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
-Mat 5:44
That is why I will say to you that, despite your hypocrisy, unrighteous judgments, and false accusations against me, I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming rough months in this country. Have a great day.
END OF DISCUSSION
There were so many hypocrisies in this one, it was difficult for me to pick and choose which one I would address to her. I found it fascinating that, in my book exposing Kim Clement, I use Nostradamus as an example of a false prophet to explain the deceptive techniques that Kim Clement used. She, on the other hand, used Nostradamus as a justification for Kim Clement, which is mind-blowing because, in short, she is using a pagan astrologer to justify Clement, and claiming she is standing on the side for Christ for doing so.
Also, if someone is going to make up their own mind, they need to hear both sides. If they cannot hear both sides, then there is nothing for them to make up their own mind about. Silencing opposition does not help people make up their own mind.
Also, she did not answer a single one of my questions. I was really hoping she would keep responding because I was going to share a lot more banners with her after that, but sadly, she ran off into the night. Oh well, maybe next time.
Just wanted everyone to know that this guy was a false prophet; a total clown. He never predicted Donald Trump would be president, and he never predicted 9/11.
BARBARA:
Listen...You are entitled to believe what you want, and everyone else needs to believe what they want to.
I'm saying this...You, calling anyone a clown, is being very judgemental. You shouldn't be doing that. If someone chooses to listen to, and follow Kim Clement, that's on them. Some good things have come out of him...but basically, like Nostradamus, and other prophets, and soothsayers, it's up to the person who hear what they say, for them to decide on their own what is truth, or lies. I'm just saying that it's up to each person to make up their own minds on who they want to follow. We are all called to watch out for whom we follow. I follow Jesus Christ, first and foremost.
Blessings!!!!!
Yes. It is judging. Because that is what Christians are called to do, to compare a preacher's words with the Word of God to see if they're are true or not:
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
-John 7:24
You just judged me with your comment. So why are you fighting against Christ and refusing to judge righteous judgement? Kim Clement was a liar, a false prophet, and yes, he was a clown. Did you know he prophesied that Eminem and Stephen King were Christian evangelists? Did you know he prophesied that Bill Gates would be a huge financial backer for the church? Did you know that he prophesied that Kim Jong-un was supposed to pass away from being brain dead 15 years ago?
Folks, what she just said is EXACTLY the problem our nation is facing right now:
"it's up to the person who hear what they say, for them to decide on their own what is truth, or lies. Just keep those kind of opinions to yourself."
She fools everyone into thinking she has a reasonable position by saying "it's up to the hearer," but then says to "keep opinions to yourself," meaning that she does not want anyone else speaking anything that contradicts what she believes. This is EXACTLY the ideology of the woke left, and churchgoers adopt that same ideology as soon as they are faced with facts that contradict their presuppositions. (i.e. She wants people who disagree with her to be silent.)
In short, it's hypocrisy, and then she ends it with lies of pretense by saying "blessings" which is the typical church-ianity tropes that put on a fake outward appearance of so-called "goodness," when they actually hate the truth, and they refuse to do any research to study the matter out.
The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
-Pro 15:28
You are acting like a bot or shill. That's my opinion. You have proven it in every aspect of your response.
I said blessings to you, but it wasn't accepted, so I retrieve my blessings on you, as Christ has told us to do, if our blessings are not appreciated.
"You are acting like a bot or shill."
Why are you being so judgmental?
—————
"That's my opinion."
Well, I will tell you the same thing a hypocrite just advised to me: Why don't you let others decide for themselves, and keep your opinions to yourself?
—————
"I said blessings to you, but it wasn't accepted, so I retrieve my blessings on you, as Christ has told us to do, if our blessings are not appreciated."
That is NOT what Christ told Christians to do. If you learned things from Kim Clement and his corrupt yoke, it's no wonder you believe such strange things, but here is what Christ said:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
-Mat 5:44
That is why I will say to you that, despite your hypocrisy, unrighteous judgments, and false accusations against me, I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming rough months in this country. Have a great day.
END OF DISCUSSION
There were so many hypocrisies in this one, it was difficult for me to pick and choose which one I would address to her. I found it fascinating that, in my book exposing Kim Clement, I use Nostradamus as an example of a false prophet to explain the deceptive techniques that Kim Clement used. She, on the other hand, used Nostradamus as a justification for Kim Clement, which is mind-blowing because, in short, she is using a pagan astrologer to justify Clement, and claiming she is standing on the side for Christ for doing so.
Also, if someone is going to make up their own mind, they need to hear both sides. If they cannot hear both sides, then there is nothing for them to make up their own mind about. Silencing opposition does not help people make up their own mind.
Also, she did not answer a single one of my questions. I was really hoping she would keep responding because I was going to share a lot more banners with her after that, but sadly, she ran off into the night. Oh well, maybe next time.
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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Wolves in Costume: Kent Hovind p2
« on: April 25, 2022, 02:23:09 PM »126
Wild Emails @ CLE / Another Hypocritical Pastor (Don Porter from Indiana)
« on: April 25, 2022, 11:25:18 AM »
For those of you who pay attention to new posts on our forum, the man who wrote me is named Don Porter, and I use his full name because he makes it public on his site. He claims to be part of an autonomous, independent local church, part of the priesthood of all believers, a pastor, a deacon, an individual soul, separated by baptism and the Lord Supper, and president of "bibleschool.edu," which doesn't seem like it has any students in the first place, but it's hard to tell. This is what he wrote to us in his introduction thread, which I will link to later in this post. Don's in his mid to late 60s based on the information I gathered on him, so in a nutshell, we have an older man who claims he's been a preacher for a long time, and you can probably already tell, just from this information alone, how this is going to end--it's very common for these kinds of people to claim they are reasonable, but they refuse to reason anything out. The beginning of this is the email Don wrote initially wrote me, and if you read everything, you will find the hypocrisy to be staggering.
DON PORTER FROM INDIANA (APR 21, 2022):
I truly have enjoyed reading the info on your website. You are extremely detailed and studied -
I have been in church since 1972 and all of the church buildings have been organized via 501c3. Over the past few years, it has become evident, because of personal study, that our local visible assemblies need to take a pause.
There is a small unregistered church movement, but it needs to grow. Of course, as I have tried to hit this issue in my area, much resistance is experienced. Prayerfully, as the Lord leads, I intend to organize a local NT assembly in my hometown of North Vernon, IN.
After reading your discourse about 501c3 and knowing that the church, as we worship together, is the local visible assembly, I wonder about an issue. I agree with your discourse but am unsure how to argue the point of taxes due if an assembly decides to have a building on a piece of purchased property. Even a non-501c3 assembly will be required to pay property taxes, correct?
I'm attempting to analyze and critically think about this issue as I move forward with a new church plant.
Thanks for any time you may have to offer feedback.
I have had these kinds of questions for many years, and I'm going to warn you ahead of time that you will (most likely) not like my answer. (By the way, did you read the whole book, or did you just read part of it?)
The problem is not with property taxes. The problem is with the way of thinking that churchgoers have, in which they have a corporate church-ianity mentality, instead of the Biblical philosophy they should, so they focus on a "new church plant," which is based on making buildings instead of evangelizing.
The following are some links if you want to do some investigation, and if not, that is up to you. Have a great day.
++++++++
++++++++
The Church is Not a Building
(According to the Bible, it is impossible to "go to church.")
How does our church handle finances without 501c3?
(From the FAQ)
How do we start a bank account without 501c3?
(From the FAQ)
You won’t upset me, I’m not the average Christian that refuses to reason together.
God’s Word is paramount to me, and changes must happen in the NT body.
House, tent, river side, field - wherever the Lord allows. I’m not extremely burdened about this issue of the NT church. The biggest obstacle are those you live in the ministry offering 0 opportunities for discussion.
Thanks be into God for his unspeakable gift
I appreciate the reasonable disposition. I hope the information is helpful.
I'm not extremely burdened about this issue of the NT church...Should have said "I am" extremely, apologies
At this point, a day or two passed, and Don decided to create an account and join our forum. He did the typical churchianity-pastor thing, in which he puffed himself up with all his worldly titles and accomplishments. Here is the link to that thread so you can read what happened:
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1552.0
That put many of us on guard immediately, and if you read it all, you will see how he accuses all of us for "being divisive" (i.e. every person on this forum, including the majority of which he has never spoken with) for just asking him questions, and then throws a divisive tantrum against us for it. After reading his writing and listening to one of his videos, I am fully convinced that he doesn't understand the basics of Scripture, even though he claims to, and his go to verse to defend himself is John 3:16--he uses that to respond to people instead of answering their questions.
After we had to ban him (for contention and spam, because he was making new, one-sentence threads where he was accusing everyone on this forum of random things), I wrote him back:
You won’t upset me, I’m not the average Christian that refuses to reason together.
You lied.
Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
-Col 3:9
I told you that you wouldn't like my answer, and I know you didn't, even though you tried to hide it. I know you didn't read the whole book on 501c3 (I can easily tell just by what you wrote), but you don't need to read it. The following book is what you need to read, even though we both know you won't, but my job is to provide it, and let others decide for themselves what they will do:
Why Millions of Believer on Jesus are Going to Hell
I am preaching repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow) and remission of sins as Christ taught us...
And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
-Luke 24:46-47
...but you are preaching church-ianity, which is why you focus on creating buildings instead of evangelizing, it is why you struggled to understand how to exist without incorporated status, and it is also why you erroneously believe 501c3 is the source of the problem. I appreciate you coming onto the forum for a short time because the small amount of conversation you provided helped me discern the matter. Thank you for your time.
I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
-3Jo 1:9-10
pre-eminence (n): priority of place; superiority in rank or dignity; superiority of power or influence
I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would have as much mercy on you and your family as He has had on me and mine. Have a great day.
There’s nothing you can teach me about Salvation, Repentance, Christ, and the Church. All of your forum participants have the urge to edify themselves and create argument.
It appears that exalting Chris and not Christ is the drive of your followers.
Beware of them that cause divisions among you - your followers use the freedom of Grace to hurt the cause of Christ for selfish and fleshly reasons.
The Holy Spirit pricks my heart , teaches me, and guides me. I saw nothing on your forum that supports individual soul liberty other than the individual haughtiness that was liberally meted out.
So, wisdom dictates that a mature Christian leave such childish games dealt to other Believers.
You may need this:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
You may need this:
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
-Luke 12:51
Have a great day, and I pray the Lord Jesus Christ blesses you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming rough months in this country.
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9
END OF DISCUSSION
Forum members are welcome to leave their own thoughts and comments below, especially since some of you spoke with him before he got banned. I just found it hilarious that, according to Porter's own words, I started out to have wisdom and understand, and within 48 hours, I no longer had wisdom and understanding. That's an amazing trick.
I'm being facetious, obviously, but the reason people do that is because they speak before they listen, meaning that all those compliments were just flattering lips because he has spent far too long playing church-ianity politics with people who love flattering lips, and was not expecting rebuke from actual Christians.
DON PORTER FROM INDIANA (APR 21, 2022):
I truly have enjoyed reading the info on your website. You are extremely detailed and studied -
I have been in church since 1972 and all of the church buildings have been organized via 501c3. Over the past few years, it has become evident, because of personal study, that our local visible assemblies need to take a pause.
There is a small unregistered church movement, but it needs to grow. Of course, as I have tried to hit this issue in my area, much resistance is experienced. Prayerfully, as the Lord leads, I intend to organize a local NT assembly in my hometown of North Vernon, IN.
After reading your discourse about 501c3 and knowing that the church, as we worship together, is the local visible assembly, I wonder about an issue. I agree with your discourse but am unsure how to argue the point of taxes due if an assembly decides to have a building on a piece of purchased property. Even a non-501c3 assembly will be required to pay property taxes, correct?
I'm attempting to analyze and critically think about this issue as I move forward with a new church plant.
Thanks for any time you may have to offer feedback.
I have had these kinds of questions for many years, and I'm going to warn you ahead of time that you will (most likely) not like my answer. (By the way, did you read the whole book, or did you just read part of it?)
The problem is not with property taxes. The problem is with the way of thinking that churchgoers have, in which they have a corporate church-ianity mentality, instead of the Biblical philosophy they should, so they focus on a "new church plant," which is based on making buildings instead of evangelizing.
The following are some links if you want to do some investigation, and if not, that is up to you. Have a great day.
++++++++
++++++++
The Church is Not a Building
(According to the Bible, it is impossible to "go to church.")
How does our church handle finances without 501c3?
(From the FAQ)
How do we start a bank account without 501c3?
(From the FAQ)
You won’t upset me, I’m not the average Christian that refuses to reason together.
God’s Word is paramount to me, and changes must happen in the NT body.
House, tent, river side, field - wherever the Lord allows. I’m not extremely burdened about this issue of the NT church. The biggest obstacle are those you live in the ministry offering 0 opportunities for discussion.
Thanks be into God for his unspeakable gift
I appreciate the reasonable disposition. I hope the information is helpful.
I'm not extremely burdened about this issue of the NT church...Should have said "I am" extremely, apologies
At this point, a day or two passed, and Don decided to create an account and join our forum. He did the typical churchianity-pastor thing, in which he puffed himself up with all his worldly titles and accomplishments. Here is the link to that thread so you can read what happened:
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1552.0
That put many of us on guard immediately, and if you read it all, you will see how he accuses all of us for "being divisive" (i.e. every person on this forum, including the majority of which he has never spoken with) for just asking him questions, and then throws a divisive tantrum against us for it. After reading his writing and listening to one of his videos, I am fully convinced that he doesn't understand the basics of Scripture, even though he claims to, and his go to verse to defend himself is John 3:16--he uses that to respond to people instead of answering their questions.
After we had to ban him (for contention and spam, because he was making new, one-sentence threads where he was accusing everyone on this forum of random things), I wrote him back:
You won’t upset me, I’m not the average Christian that refuses to reason together.
You lied.
Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
-Col 3:9
I told you that you wouldn't like my answer, and I know you didn't, even though you tried to hide it. I know you didn't read the whole book on 501c3 (I can easily tell just by what you wrote), but you don't need to read it. The following book is what you need to read, even though we both know you won't, but my job is to provide it, and let others decide for themselves what they will do:
Why Millions of Believer on Jesus are Going to Hell
I am preaching repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow) and remission of sins as Christ taught us...
And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
-Luke 24:46-47
...but you are preaching church-ianity, which is why you focus on creating buildings instead of evangelizing, it is why you struggled to understand how to exist without incorporated status, and it is also why you erroneously believe 501c3 is the source of the problem. I appreciate you coming onto the forum for a short time because the small amount of conversation you provided helped me discern the matter. Thank you for your time.
I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
-3Jo 1:9-10
pre-eminence (n): priority of place; superiority in rank or dignity; superiority of power or influence
I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would have as much mercy on you and your family as He has had on me and mine. Have a great day.
There’s nothing you can teach me about Salvation, Repentance, Christ, and the Church. All of your forum participants have the urge to edify themselves and create argument.
It appears that exalting Chris and not Christ is the drive of your followers.
Beware of them that cause divisions among you - your followers use the freedom of Grace to hurt the cause of Christ for selfish and fleshly reasons.
The Holy Spirit pricks my heart , teaches me, and guides me. I saw nothing on your forum that supports individual soul liberty other than the individual haughtiness that was liberally meted out.
So, wisdom dictates that a mature Christian leave such childish games dealt to other Believers.
You may need this:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
You may need this:
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
-Luke 12:51
Have a great day, and I pray the Lord Jesus Christ blesses you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming rough months in this country.
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9
END OF DISCUSSION
Forum members are welcome to leave their own thoughts and comments below, especially since some of you spoke with him before he got banned. I just found it hilarious that, according to Porter's own words, I started out to have wisdom and understand, and within 48 hours, I no longer had wisdom and understanding. That's an amazing trick.
I'm being facetious, obviously, but the reason people do that is because they speak before they listen, meaning that all those compliments were just flattering lips because he has spent far too long playing church-ianity politics with people who love flattering lips, and was not expecting rebuke from actual Christians.
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What's New @ CLE / (BOOK) False Prophet Profiles: Kim Clement
« on: April 21, 2022, 02:42:04 PM »
Did you know that Kim Clement prophesied that Barack Obama would be baptized by the Holy Spirit in the summer of 2010? Did you know that Kim Clement prophesied that rap artist Eminem and author Stephen King would both be Chrisitian evangelists? Did you know that Kim Clement prophesied that Rudy Giuliani would be President of the United States in 2008? We will cover all these failed Clement prophecies and much more in this book.
False Prophet Profiles: Kim Clement
False Prophet Profiles: Kim Clement
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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Wolves in Costume: Kent Hovind p1
« on: April 18, 2022, 03:08:55 PM »129
What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Denominations Are Unbiblical p5
« on: April 11, 2022, 04:37:46 PM »130
What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Denominations Are Unbiblical p4
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« on: March 28, 2022, 02:19:39 PM »132
What's New @ CLE / (BOOK PUBLISHED) Christmas: Rejecting Jesus
« on: March 23, 2022, 09:27:20 AM »
Christmas: Rejecting Jesus is now available for purchase in the Amazon store.
As always, my books are available free to read at creationliberty.com, but if you want a copy of the book on paperback or Kindle, they are now available.
READ BOOK FOR FREE: https://www.creationliberty.com/articles/christmas.php
PURCHASE A COPY: http://creationliberty.com/store.php#christmas
The celebration of Christmas is commonly proclaimed by churchgoers to be "all about Jesus," but there is no evidence that it has anything to do with Jesus Christ, and a lot of evidence that the corrupt popes of the wicked Catholic Church fused the vile spell craft and traditions of witches with Bible stories. Nearly every Christmas tradition, from the tree, to the date of December 25th, to Santa, to mistletoe, and everything in between -- all of them are rooted in witchcraft and Catholic deception. The word 'Christmas' was invented from the Catholic "Mass of Christ," which is an antichrist Catholic ritual (1Co 10:21) that leads people to hell through a false, works-based doctrine (Eph 2:8-9), which means it is a willful blindness that any born again Christian should participate in Christmas practices, and that is also why many early American towns banned the celebration of it. As Christians, we need to put aside our feelings to do what is right over what is convenient.
"Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."
-Jeremiah 10:2-4
As always, my books are available free to read at creationliberty.com, but if you want a copy of the book on paperback or Kindle, they are now available.
READ BOOK FOR FREE: https://www.creationliberty.com/articles/christmas.php
PURCHASE A COPY: http://creationliberty.com/store.php#christmas
The celebration of Christmas is commonly proclaimed by churchgoers to be "all about Jesus," but there is no evidence that it has anything to do with Jesus Christ, and a lot of evidence that the corrupt popes of the wicked Catholic Church fused the vile spell craft and traditions of witches with Bible stories. Nearly every Christmas tradition, from the tree, to the date of December 25th, to Santa, to mistletoe, and everything in between -- all of them are rooted in witchcraft and Catholic deception. The word 'Christmas' was invented from the Catholic "Mass of Christ," which is an antichrist Catholic ritual (1Co 10:21) that leads people to hell through a false, works-based doctrine (Eph 2:8-9), which means it is a willful blindness that any born again Christian should participate in Christmas practices, and that is also why many early American towns banned the celebration of it. As Christians, we need to put aside our feelings to do what is right over what is convenient.
"Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."
-Jeremiah 10:2-4
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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Denominations Are Unbiblical p2
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« on: March 14, 2022, 02:40:11 PM »135
What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Unbiblical Cop-Outs: "Don't Judge Me!" p4
« on: March 07, 2022, 12:53:29 PM »136
What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Unbiblical Cop-Outs: "Don't Judge Me!" p3
« on: February 28, 2022, 01:11:30 PM »137
Wild Emails @ CLE / You Do and Do Not Need Repentance for Salvation - ???
« on: February 28, 2022, 01:09:35 PM »
There is a man named Nate who has been writing me for years. I've had a lot of back and forths from this guy, and what's been fascinating about his letters is that he keeps flip-flopping. In one letter, he would state that the KJB is the preserved Word of God, and then in another letter, he would condemn those who are pro-KJB. In one letter, he would state that repentance is godly sorrow, and then turn around in another letter, and condemn all those who believe repentance is godly sorrow. If you want to see some of his conversation, it's still documented on our forum, and here are some examples:
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=678.msg5510#msg5510
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=659.msg5308#msg5308
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=680.msg5514#msg5514
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=681.msg5517#msg5517
There are many more than just this. We tried to be patient with him, but he kept doing this to a point that we had to kick him off our forum just for his contention and railing alone. The following is another letter he sent me just last night, and he sent this from a new email address because I've block multiple email addresses that he has.
NATE FROM USA
I just did a review of your teaching on MeWe. Here is the full article.
Christopher J. E. Johnson: the most subtle, dangerous, pseudo-King James Only jerk on planet earth.
Johnson teaches that God must give you repentance BEFORE you can get saved and teaches that repentance is godly sorrow when the guy obviously can't read 2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV which says "godly sorrow WORKETH repentance to salvation" not that it's repentance itself.
Johnson claims that you can believe and trust in Christ for salvation and still go to Hell if God didn't make you wallow in tears and grief over your sins first.
As I've said in the past, all truly saved people will repent and grieve over their sins, but the Bible doesn't teach that you have to go through a process of repentance that God must give you BEFORE you can be saved! That's heresy.
Christopher J. E. Johnson is basically a closet Calvinist crackhead who teaches that God must give every individual person repentance BEFORE they can be saved. Acts 11:18 disagrees and says God ALREADY has granted repentance to the Gentiles AS A WHOLE, but Johnson has given a false definition of repentance altogether based on a retards reading of 2 Corinthians 7:10!
Johnson is a Creationist, a professing King James Bible believer and a liar. Another smooth operator who looks convincing if you're not paying CLOSE attention!
http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/whymillions.php
From you, in 2019 on our forum:
You guys need to check yourselves! I thank God I'm saved and I don't have to take or appreciate the self righteous tone in which I was talked to either. I have no patience for this Pharisaical anti-501c3 churches snobbery either. Ugh please just delete my account
From you, later in 2019 in email:
I repent brother. I am sorry for every stupid, carnal thing I said!
Please tell everyone that I apologize to them as well.
From you, in 2020 in a Facebook PM:
Hi Mr. Johnson, I wanted to let you know that I'm exposing your false teachings on Twitter.
And now here you are again in 2022. I'm almost at a loss for words.
Doing my best to ignore the fact that you've lied about your name more than once, I cannot help you. You have had malicious intent against me for years now, and I have a lot of documentation of all your backbiting and hatred against me. Whatever revenge you want to take on me for whatever offense you believe I caused against you, that's your business. Go do what you think you need to do. I just do not have time for this, and I'm not doing this dance with you anymore.
As for your "review," I really could not care less. The reason for that is because, in the book, I answered every argument you made. So, anyone who is looking for the truth would only need to read your review, and then read my book, and the Holy Spirit will guide them to the truth of the matter. I trust in Him to do that. Thus, I hope you spread out that "review" as far as you can because it proves the point, and I appreciate your effort, and hope many people read it.
With that, I'm blocking your email address (again, as I have already done in the past with your other email addresses) because you need to move on somewhere else, and learn to let go of that animosity. This ministry is not the right place for you, and I do not want to waste my time anymore than I want you to waste yours. I hope you find whatever it is you're looking for, and may the Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your family with as much mercy as He has given to me and mine.
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9
Have a great day.
I read your whole book and you did NOT answer the points I bring up in the review. You teach a false definition of repentance and a false and dangerous twisting of Christ's plain Salvation. You make Salvation hard for the sinner CONTRARY to what the King James Bible says!
I only brought you up because of current discussions among real Christians about real Biblical repentance and I thought of you as being the most dangerous false repentance teacher in America, which you are!
You can't answer the charge because you twist the verses on repentance and what the word even wants as I perfectly highlighted by your inability to read 2 Corinthians 7:10 correctly.
I have feelings against you the same way I do all false teachers who are enemies of the cross of Christ. You're a serpent and at least I call you out publicly.
Good day,
END OF DISCUSSION
Of course, I had no interest in demonstrating Nate's errors for him because, first of all, he has proven time and time again that he will not listen to anyone except Nate. Secondly, if he keeps publishing his false statements, it will only prove my book is correct for those who spend the time to study out the matter. And finally, the only reason Nate sent me this letter is because he wants me to come onto his social media and start up debate with him, and I have no interest in that because we have already been through all the details with him on this forum, and I have done it multiple times with him over email.
For example, he said:
"the Bible doesn't teach that you have to go through a process of repentance that God must give you BEFORE you can be saved! That's heresy."
In my book, Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell (which is free-to-read on my website), it says:
If you are reading this message of repentance and faith in Christ, and the lessons of these parables, and you understand and believe it, you did not receive it because of your intellect, nor are you receiving it because of me. God has had mercy on you and prepared your heart to receive understanding, and so I would say to you the same thing Jesus said: Repent, and believe the gospel.
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
-Mark 1:14-15
I did not teach that. Jesus Christ taught that, which is why I quoted Him in Mark 1. Heresy is defined as a doctrine or other ideology that goes against the standard teachings of a religious practice, and therefore, in this context, Nate is claiming that what I taught goes against what Jesus Christ taught, but if you read what Jesus taught, then Nate is the heretic.
That's just one example. I'll leave it to you all to decide for yourselves, but just read this VERY carefully, and you all tell me what you think. This is from the letter he sent me two days ago (quoted above):
"all truly saved people will repent and grieve over their sins, but the Bible doesn't teach that you have to go through a process of repentance"
Bullet points on Nate's doctrine to consider:
-Anyone truly saved must have the godly sorrow of repentance.
-No one needs to have the godly sorrow of repentance to be saved.
Hmm.
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=678.msg5510#msg5510
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=659.msg5308#msg5308
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=680.msg5514#msg5514
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=681.msg5517#msg5517
There are many more than just this. We tried to be patient with him, but he kept doing this to a point that we had to kick him off our forum just for his contention and railing alone. The following is another letter he sent me just last night, and he sent this from a new email address because I've block multiple email addresses that he has.
NATE FROM USA
I just did a review of your teaching on MeWe. Here is the full article.
Christopher J. E. Johnson: the most subtle, dangerous, pseudo-King James Only jerk on planet earth.
Johnson teaches that God must give you repentance BEFORE you can get saved and teaches that repentance is godly sorrow when the guy obviously can't read 2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV which says "godly sorrow WORKETH repentance to salvation" not that it's repentance itself.
Johnson claims that you can believe and trust in Christ for salvation and still go to Hell if God didn't make you wallow in tears and grief over your sins first.
As I've said in the past, all truly saved people will repent and grieve over their sins, but the Bible doesn't teach that you have to go through a process of repentance that God must give you BEFORE you can be saved! That's heresy.
Christopher J. E. Johnson is basically a closet Calvinist crackhead who teaches that God must give every individual person repentance BEFORE they can be saved. Acts 11:18 disagrees and says God ALREADY has granted repentance to the Gentiles AS A WHOLE, but Johnson has given a false definition of repentance altogether based on a retards reading of 2 Corinthians 7:10!
Johnson is a Creationist, a professing King James Bible believer and a liar. Another smooth operator who looks convincing if you're not paying CLOSE attention!
http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/whymillions.php
From you, in 2019 on our forum:
You guys need to check yourselves! I thank God I'm saved and I don't have to take or appreciate the self righteous tone in which I was talked to either. I have no patience for this Pharisaical anti-501c3 churches snobbery either. Ugh please just delete my account
From you, later in 2019 in email:
I repent brother. I am sorry for every stupid, carnal thing I said!
Please tell everyone that I apologize to them as well.
From you, in 2020 in a Facebook PM:
Hi Mr. Johnson, I wanted to let you know that I'm exposing your false teachings on Twitter.
And now here you are again in 2022. I'm almost at a loss for words.
Doing my best to ignore the fact that you've lied about your name more than once, I cannot help you. You have had malicious intent against me for years now, and I have a lot of documentation of all your backbiting and hatred against me. Whatever revenge you want to take on me for whatever offense you believe I caused against you, that's your business. Go do what you think you need to do. I just do not have time for this, and I'm not doing this dance with you anymore.
As for your "review," I really could not care less. The reason for that is because, in the book, I answered every argument you made. So, anyone who is looking for the truth would only need to read your review, and then read my book, and the Holy Spirit will guide them to the truth of the matter. I trust in Him to do that. Thus, I hope you spread out that "review" as far as you can because it proves the point, and I appreciate your effort, and hope many people read it.
With that, I'm blocking your email address (again, as I have already done in the past with your other email addresses) because you need to move on somewhere else, and learn to let go of that animosity. This ministry is not the right place for you, and I do not want to waste my time anymore than I want you to waste yours. I hope you find whatever it is you're looking for, and may the Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your family with as much mercy as He has given to me and mine.
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9
Have a great day.
I read your whole book and you did NOT answer the points I bring up in the review. You teach a false definition of repentance and a false and dangerous twisting of Christ's plain Salvation. You make Salvation hard for the sinner CONTRARY to what the King James Bible says!
I only brought you up because of current discussions among real Christians about real Biblical repentance and I thought of you as being the most dangerous false repentance teacher in America, which you are!
You can't answer the charge because you twist the verses on repentance and what the word even wants as I perfectly highlighted by your inability to read 2 Corinthians 7:10 correctly.
I have feelings against you the same way I do all false teachers who are enemies of the cross of Christ. You're a serpent and at least I call you out publicly.
Good day,
END OF DISCUSSION
Of course, I had no interest in demonstrating Nate's errors for him because, first of all, he has proven time and time again that he will not listen to anyone except Nate. Secondly, if he keeps publishing his false statements, it will only prove my book is correct for those who spend the time to study out the matter. And finally, the only reason Nate sent me this letter is because he wants me to come onto his social media and start up debate with him, and I have no interest in that because we have already been through all the details with him on this forum, and I have done it multiple times with him over email.
For example, he said:
"the Bible doesn't teach that you have to go through a process of repentance that God must give you BEFORE you can be saved! That's heresy."
In my book, Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell (which is free-to-read on my website), it says:
If you are reading this message of repentance and faith in Christ, and the lessons of these parables, and you understand and believe it, you did not receive it because of your intellect, nor are you receiving it because of me. God has had mercy on you and prepared your heart to receive understanding, and so I would say to you the same thing Jesus said: Repent, and believe the gospel.
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
-Mark 1:14-15
I did not teach that. Jesus Christ taught that, which is why I quoted Him in Mark 1. Heresy is defined as a doctrine or other ideology that goes against the standard teachings of a religious practice, and therefore, in this context, Nate is claiming that what I taught goes against what Jesus Christ taught, but if you read what Jesus taught, then Nate is the heretic.
That's just one example. I'll leave it to you all to decide for yourselves, but just read this VERY carefully, and you all tell me what you think. This is from the letter he sent me two days ago (quoted above):
"all truly saved people will repent and grieve over their sins, but the Bible doesn't teach that you have to go through a process of repentance"
Bullet points on Nate's doctrine to consider:
-Anyone truly saved must have the godly sorrow of repentance.
-No one needs to have the godly sorrow of repentance to be saved.
Hmm.
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What's New @ CLE / (ARTICLE) Numerology is Occult Divination
« on: February 23, 2022, 03:13:21 PM »
Numerology is Occult Divination
Numerology, bible codes, and bible numbers websites and so-called "ministries" are corrupt, being filled to brim with false doctrines, and are literally teaching people religious superstitions and occult divination. These types of deceptive religious cults have existed for thousands of years, and people will flock to them because of sensationalism, but hopefully, Christians will read and understand this teaching to increase their discernment.
Numerology, bible codes, and bible numbers websites and so-called "ministries" are corrupt, being filled to brim with false doctrines, and are literally teaching people religious superstitions and occult divination. These types of deceptive religious cults have existed for thousands of years, and people will flock to them because of sensationalism, but hopefully, Christians will read and understand this teaching to increase their discernment.
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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Unbiblical Cop-Outs: "Don't Judge Me!" p2
« on: February 21, 2022, 03:40:35 PM »140
Wild Emails @ CLE / Pushing False Information and Immediately Running Away
« on: February 16, 2022, 12:53:01 PM »MS. RACE FROM CANADA
Hello - thank you for sharing your insight into the matter of symbols. I had been feeling so uncomfortable about our friend crossing himself before meals, and my own child wearing a cross necklace that he bought with save up earnings along with many other queries about hidden in plain sight symbols and wondering if the 'Christian' ones were also a part of the enemy's plan to have us blaspheme the Lord.
You may have found (and perhaps even written - just found your site today) about these definitions already but I found it very helpful to explore the Greek for 'graven' and 'similitude' as it would seem to apply to carved, painted, etched, drawn etc. attempts to represent the Lord as well as symbols - and the aspect of similitude as it relates to creating allegories or stories (as used in scripting the Catholic sponsored series 'The Chosen' with the lead actor being a Knights Templar member) that have Jesus speaking words He never said in the scriptures. As His thoughts are higher than any of ours and beyond our ability to grasp this is such presumption and in such error.
As a student of the word as we are all called to be, I have never encountered this until this week. I believe the enemy has put in plain sight many things we haven't seen, but has also hidden many things we are to see. While the artwork is pagan (orthodox) in the oldest bible yet found (Ethiopian dead language of Ge'es) its containing of the book of Enoch along with other things I believe God has shown me this season has led me to consider what is canonized (and more importantly why it is canonized and by whom) and having rejected apocryphal writings without ever reading one for all of my Christian life, I started reading the book of Enoch yesterday. I do not profess to be any type of expert but have been praying for the leading of the Lord - all I can say is that it seems very possible He inspired its writing. It is the encouragement to believers of the immutable character of holiness of the Lord, that vengeance is His and that His beloved will be set apart for and with Him.
It so answers to the Christian inquiry of the fall of man and the sin in the world we see now. There is nothing to challenges any other scriptural truth, but confirms it and readily answers to the Enoch references in in other Bible books.
If you feel led to consider reading it if you haven't as yet this may be of help.
[NOTE: I had to cut this link in order to get it to fit on the page in this post. You'll have to copy/paste the whole thing if you want to see her link, but I didn't bother looking at it because it's just a link to the book of Enoch, which you can tell from the URL, and she obviously believes, some odd reason, that I would not have capability to find it if I wanted to do so.]
https://ia601001.us.archive.org/19/items/TheCompleteBookOfEnochStandardEnglishVersion
JayWinter/The%20Complete%20Book%20of%20Enoch%2C%20Standard%20English
%20Version%20-%20Jay%20Winter.pdf
May the Lord continue to show you the truths of His word.
I received a second email from her before I had read the first...
I sent you another email regarding symbols - sorry to send two.
Just a quick addendum. I am not keen to assume anything but the calling out of false prophets is biblical and people are mired in deceit. God has used, as He promises, the plans for harm to be for our good - in my own case I was deeply convicted by a Billy Graham crusade.
Sadly, it is confirmed that the Masonic 'rumour' is a true thing (of course it would be unlikely that with the Illuminati controls in government that Graham would have otherwise been invited into the confidence of so many presidents and have been close friends of two).
Author Albert Mackey includes Graham in his book 'The History of Free Masonary' as a famous member. He does not indicate the degree that Graham was at. His fame and connections and tremendous wealth would suggest that a high degree is very plausible, if not indeed likely.
http://www.noiseofthunderradio.com/articles/2011/7/3/billy-graham-and-freemasonry.html
Re: the author of this book - considered by Mason's as a true historian and fellow 'brother':
Freemason Albert Mackey | Masonic Dictionary | www ...
Search domain masonicdictionary.comwww.masonicdictionary.com › mackey.html
Albert Mackey. The American Masonic historian. He was born at Charleston, South Carolina, March 12, 1807. This scholarly Brother lived to the age of seventy-four years. He died at Fortress Monroe, Virginia, June 20, 1881, and was buried at Washington, District of Columbia, Sunday, June 26, with all the solemnity of the Masonic Rites wherein he ...
There is no need to reply to this or my previous email - they are simply for your own information. It is unlikely you would attribute information to anyone publically but to be clear I do not want attribution if you use this information.
And now my response to both letters...
Hello - thank you for sharing your insight into the matter of symbols. I had been feeling so uncomfortable about our friend crossing himself before meals, and my own child wearing a cross necklace that he bought with save up earnings along with many other queries about hidden in plain sight symbols and wondering if the 'Christian' ones were also a part of the enemy's plan to have us blaspheme the Lord.
I'm a little confused by that statement. How does making a cross symbol blaspheme God? What is your definition of "blaspheme"? I have always understood it to mean that one claims that the works of God are of the Devil, and with that understanding, I cannot make sense of how that is blaspheme. It has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with setting a bad example for Christians and misrepresenting who God is.
You may have found (and perhaps even written - just found your site today) about these definitions already but I found it very helpful to explore the Greek for 'graven' and 'similitude' as it would seem to apply to carved, painted, etched, drawn etc. attempts to represent the Lord as well as symbols - and the aspect of similitude as it relates to creating allegories or stories (as used in scripting the Catholic sponsored series 'The Chosen' with the lead actor being a Knights Templar member) that have Jesus speaking words He never said in the scriptures. As His thoughts are higher than any of ours and beyond our ability to grasp this is such presumption and in such error.
Well... hmm... like you said, you just found the site, so you haven't had much time on it; I understand. There's a reason I don't do what you are suggesting, and I explain more here:
The 'Original Greek' Scam
Most people do not know Greek, and even fewer know Koine. Because of that, most people have to rely on Greek grammar dictionaries, and there are many problems there too:
The Dangers of Using Lexicons and Concordances
As a student of the word as we are all called to be, I have never encountered this until this week. I believe the enemy has put in plain sight many things we haven't seen, but has also hidden many things we are to see. While the artwork is pagan (orthodox) in the oldest bible yet found (Ethiopian dead language of Ge'es) its containing of the book of Enoch along with other things I believe God has shown me this season has led me to consider what is canonized (and more importantly why it is canonized and by whom) and having rejected apocryphal writings without ever reading one for all of my Christian life, I started reading the book of Enoch yesterday. I do not profess to be any type of expert but have been praying for the leading of the Lord - all I can say is that it seems very possible He inspired its writing. It is the encouragement to believers of the immutable character of holiness of the Lord, that vengeance is His and that His beloved will be set apart for and with Him. It so answers to the Christian inquiry of the fall of man and the sin in the world we see now. There is nothing to challenges any other scriptural truth, but confirms it and readily answers to the Enoch references in in other Bible books.
Okay.
Just a quick addendum. I am not keen to assume anything but the calling out of false prophets is biblical and people are mired in deceit. God has used, as He promises, the plans for harm to be for our good - in my own case I was deeply convicted by a Billy Graham crusade.
Sadly, it is confirmed that the Masonic 'rumour' is a true thing (of course it would be unlikely that with the Illuminati controls in government that Graham would have otherwise been invited into the confidence of so many presidents and have been close friends of two).
Author Albert Mackey includes Graham in his book 'The History of Free Masonary' as a famous member. He does not indicate the degree that Graham was at. His fame and connections and tremendous wealth would suggest that a high degree is very plausible, if not indeed likely.
If I am to accuse someone of something, I do not base it on "suggestions" or my opinions about how "likely" I think something might be. I have a responsibility to make sure what I am teaching is the truth based on evidence, not based on speculation. Neither Christ, nor His apostles said things based on speculation, and neither will I. I will stick with evidence. What you do is up to you, but I believe it is wildly irresponsible for authors to use speculation to create sensationalism (to turn a profit) instead of just going by the facts, because that is how people get deceived.
Re: the author of this book - considered by Mason's as a true historian and fellow 'brother': Albert Mackey. The American Masonic historian. He was born at Charleston, South Carolina, March 12, 1807. This scholarly Brother lived to the age of seventy-four years. He died at Fortress Monroe, Virginia, June 20, 1881, and was buried at Washington, District of Columbia, Sunday, June 26, with all the solemnity of the Masonic Rites wherein he
Okay.
[SIDE NOTE: I did not cut off the email she sent me; that is how the paragraph ended.]
There is no need to reply to this or my previous email - they are simply for your own information. It is unlikely you would attribute information to anyone publically but to be clear I do not want attribution if you use this information.
Sadly, when people write to me saying, "there is no need to reply," it typically, actually means, "I don't want to discuss the matter" because, most often, they want to convince others they know what they're talking about, when in fact, they are not as learned on it as they try to get other people to believe. If you don't want to discuss something, then frankly, there is no point in writing an email because, as you might have noticed, on my website, my references do not read "A lady named Ms. Race emailed me and told me it was true."
Also concerning your comment on this email being "for me," ... well ... I'm not so sure that is the case. It depends.
So, for example, let's suppose you read my expose on Billy Graham, which is here:
Wolves in Costume: Billy Graham
You did not indicate whether or not you did, so it leaves me puzzled as to why you were putting so much emphasis on writing me this random letter talking about it. (i.e. You did not provide any context.) If you had not read it, it would be a very strange thing to receive a letter like this out of nowhere, kind of like if I had just written you a letter on the techniques of harvesting cabbage out of nowhere--you would be rather confused. However, let's assume you did read it, and that's why you are writing to me.
You might have read where I pointed out that there is no solid evidence that Graham was a member of the Freemasons, even though he worked with many of them, as I pointed out here:
Freemasonry: A Luciferian Beacon
Of course, my statements contradict the opinions of other authors you have read. So instead of considering what evidence exists, you instead turn to the opinion of an author (i.e. Chris Pinto, who I do not trust because I have caught him making manipulative videos in the past) who already agrees with your preconceived idea about Graham, and you want me to believe what you believe and teach, so that I will teach what you teach, or in other words, you like my other teachings, but you don't like it that I disagree with you on key points that you are very fervent about, so you want me to conform with what you believe, that way you feel more comfortable when reading my materials.
Thus, if you are writing to me for that reason, you wrote this letter for YOU, not for me. Copying an excerpt from a Masonic Dictionary website is not the equivalent of research.
Author Albert Mackey includes Graham in his book 'The History of Free Masonary' as a famous member.
Furthermore, you claim that Albert Mackey, who died in 1881, wrote about Billy Graham's involvement in the Freemasons, even though Graham wasn't born until 1918.
If you could explain more details on that claim, I would love to hear more about it. I'll wait for your response on that.Thanks so much for taking the time to read some of the materials I've written. I appreciate it. Have a great day.
END OF DISCUSSION
I had little doubt that she would refuse to respond, and it was likely that she never even read my response to her. I have received countless letters like this, and they are typically from women. They want me to believe what they have chosen to believe, and even though they cannot provide evidence for it, and then they tuck tail and run the second I ask them to answer for what they say.
However, I still would like to know how Albert Mackey was able to describe Billy Graham's involvement in the Freemasons 40 years before Billy Graham was born. Still waiting for a response.
I always found it very interesting that when I have spoken blessings of God on others in the sense of His giving us wisdom and understanding of His Word, I always say "I pray God would continue to show ME the truth of His Word," or "I pray God would continue to show US the truth of His Word," but it is VERY common that I have people write to me, "May the Lord continue to show YOU the truths of His word," and I am just pointing that out because, so often, it's not about them learning more about God's Word, it's about me not agreeing with their opinions, and therefore, because we are in disagreement, they believe I need prayer so I would learn enough to agree with them.
Just food for thought.