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It's always been $5.

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General Discussion / Re: Good stuff still happens!
« on: May 14, 2021, 07:32:00 PM »
Only evil police save babies.
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General Discussion / Re: Mask Debate at the BMV Today
« on: May 14, 2021, 07:25:45 PM »
No, but I was prepared for that interaction just in case. I think she knew that too.

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General Discussion / Mask Debate at the BMV Today
« on: May 14, 2021, 05:28:01 PM »
Lorraine and I had to go by the BMV to take care of some paperwork, and they had a sign out front saying that masks were REQUIRED by state mandate. Lorraine left it up to me, and I said, "I'm not doing it."

We took a number, and went in. We immediately got called up to the counter, and the lady asked us if we had masks. I said, no. She said, I'll get you some. I said, "I'm not wearing it."

She said that it was policy. I asked her, "It is unconstitutional to force me to wear a medical device on my face. Are you telling me that you will not help us unless we wear a medical device?"

She said she would get the manager. Long story short, we had to go through the assistant manager, and then to the primary manager.

They first asked us for medical paperwork, and I said, "You cannot ask that. That is a violation of the Fourth Amendment."

After some more heated words, she finally said, "We will allow one of you to stay and take care of the paperwork without wearing a mask." I said, "That's fine. I have no problem with that." I told Lorraine I would step outside and to let me know if she had any problems.

As I was walking out, a lady (customer) walking up to her spot on the counter said to me in a low voice, "Good job!" Of course, she was still wearing her mask, but the point I wanted to tell you guys is that we stood our ground, and we won that fight. Not only did we win that fight, but we showed everyone else there that they did not have to do those things if they simply understand what the law of the land is in America (i.e. the Constitution), and they say "No!"

The deep state is NEVER going to let people take their masks off again. Fauci (the corrupt fake physician) has already said that people need to get used to wearing them 9 months out of the year, EVERY year. If they have their way, you will NEVER go back to normal. When are the people going to stand up and say that they have had enough?

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Occasionally, I receive a book from a coward. What I mean by that is that someone sends a book to our ministry address directly from a company, and they include no return address to who sent it, meaning that, they do not want me to know who they are. In every instance I can recall, when someone has done this, they send me a book from a corrupt author, therefore creating a connection philosophical between cowards and false teachers. (Not in every case, but in many cases, this happens.)

In this particular instance, I was sent a book by a false prophet and fake "faith healer" named Nathan A. French. After looking up this guy online and seeing his three, very vague, money-making websites (which are all pretty much identical), I have NO interest in reading anything this guy has to say. One of the fascinating things about his website is that he has the same typical vague statements of faith that are a dime a dozen, he has an extensive "testimony" page on each one of people saying how wonderful he is, and then a place where you can buy his books, buy tickets to his shows, and donate to his ministry... but not one place where he has ANY doctrine, meaning that he makes is quite difficult to find out what he believes on anything.

Nathan French is a revivalist; he follows the false doctrines and rituals of Charles Finney.
Revivalism: The Devil's Design

It was sickening to look through his YouTube channel because it just a bunch of self-serving garbage. He has NO doctrine; none.
https://www.youtube.com/user/NathanAndrewFrench/videos

I have seen these patterns in websites time and time again, and when I see it, I know they are in it for the money. Because I know that, I also know it is very likely that they are 501c3 incorporated because greedy preacher almost always are, and Nathan French is no exception, as you can see for yourself:
https://www.nathanfrenchministries.com/donate
All contributions are tax deductible. We are a 501c3, ein 83-1293457

However, I may want to do an expose on this guy in the future, so I won't burn the book I was sent, which was my first thought, but rather, I'm going to take my pen, and write in big bold print, "FALSE TEACHER" so incase I die anytime soon, someone will not find this book in my office and think that I support this guy. It's just sad that someone wasted their money on this because I would rather that they had spent that money on their own family, to provide for them because their resources were not only wasted, but were supporting a man who is trying to profit by making himself into a "prophet" who is falsely so-called.

Here are a couple links anyone can check out if you are curious about this guy, and want to know why to stay away from him. He does the thing that most false prophets do when they take information that is already circulating, and then turn it into a "God told me this" kind of thing.
Nathan French Prophesies That God Will ‘Wipe Out’ Social Media Companies for Banning Trump

This was published at the end of February, and we already knew this was going to happen. In fact, Q already told us a long time ago that this would happen:


French is just trying to profit on this. He's making merchandise of the people:
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

And he's proven to be a false prophet, as we can see here:
Nathan French Claims God Told Him Trump Is Coming Back, ‘Everything’s Gonna Change’ in April

“I said he was gonna win big, and he didn’t win, and the Lord says, ‘Yes, he did,'” French said, “He actually won with a landslide victory, and a lot of people don’t get that. They tried to steal the election, and it’s not gonna work. God’s about to lay it bare.”
“He’s about to lay it bare,” French continued. “I think we’re gonna find out in April. I think everything’s gonna change. I see a shift coming. People are waiting to see when is the God of justice gonna step in."


First of all, everything did not change in April. If you guys remember, I said that April was going to be interesting, but it's likely going to take a lot longer for us to really get the information and see some change. Secondly, Mike Lindell had already released his documentaries on the subject, and because French is part of the same corrupt ecumenical movement that Lindell is a part of, you know he already saw the evidence, but then claimed that "God told him this" so you will believe in his lie that he "God's prophet."

You can see that this guy is going along with the "QAnon" movement, not the Q movement. (i.e. There is no QAnon; there is Q, and there are Anons.) There are a lot of gullible people in the QAnon movement that are looking for what is referred to as "hopium," and desperately follow after false prophets like this guy. There are a lot of false prophets trying to benefit off of those people using the predictions Q has made, men like Mark Taylor and this guy, Nathan French, who are both corrupt.

They are making a lot of money off of the "conspiracy ministry" folks who call themselves "Christians." I know that those who listen to my teachings and those in our church have a lot of discernment, and you can probably all see right through this guy, but this is just a warning to steer clear of this man because he is the same, old revivalism fake faith healer and false prophet we have seen time and time again.

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General Discussion / Re: On the Subject of Graven Images...
« on: May 05, 2021, 09:10:12 AM »
I can see that you read my teaching on Christian Symbols Are Not Christian, and due to the teachings of religious cults, especially those in the Hebrew roots movement, they tend to put people under the letter of the law because they do not know regeneration in the Holy Spirit, nor do they know the fulfillment in Christ.

When a graven image, which would be a statue, a painting, a photoshopped image, etc, represents something spiritual, I would say that is where we should draw the line. If it is intended to represent the Godhead, or any other spiritual thing, it is best that we get rid of it, and that is because, as the old saying goes, 'A picture is worth a thousand words', and the problem is those thousand words can be wrong, and can be different depending on the person; therefore, God did not make the Bible a picture book, but it does not mean it is wrong to sculpt or to paint, otherwise, God would have made some sort of verses in Scripture condemning sculpting and painting in general.

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(I got everything figured out for the most part, and I rewrote the original post to avoid confusion... See Above.)

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We now can take crypto-currency donations if that is your preference; visit the donation page for those options:


I am not here to provide anyone financial advise, but there are some changes happening in this country, and fiat currency (i.e. the dollar, USD) is going to implode soon, as the process has already begun, and the stimulus checks that Americans have received recently is only covering up that implosion. They cannot cover it for long, so Lorraine and I have made contingency plans for the future; one of them being crypto-currency, which more people and businesses are beginning to use, and it is a much more secure currency that is backed by real money.

There are two ways to donate crypto-currency. The first is directly, wallet-to-wallet, and the public key for my wallet is available on the website now:
bc1qc0h3zj7z8p9whreq6e0fmndyqdvanuhxchd59e

The second method is through NowPayments, which is a service that allows you to pay wallet-to-wallet, OR you can donate USD (or EUR), and NowPayments will translate your money to BTC, and will donate it to our wallet. Here is a link to that:
Donate Crypto-Currency to CLE

I spoke with a rep from NowPayments, and here is what he said about the transaction fees:
In short, it's 4% for cash-in operations (this includes ~3% Visa/Master Card fee) and 1% for cash-out operations. When it comes to cryptocurrency transactions, our fees are .5% for monocurrency payments (BTC-BTC) or 1% for conversion (i.e. ETH-BTC).

So sending us donations by mail is based on the fee of your mail service.
Sending by Paypal is at least 4.1%.

Please keep in mind, Lorraine and I still have to pay for things using USD because not enough businesses have gotten on board with BTC yet. That is starting to change now, but it has not quiet reached that point yet. So please keep in mind that, for the time being, if you donate USD to us, it is still more beneficial to send it via Paypal, and the reason for that is because if Lorraine and I transfer funds out of our BTC wallet to USD, we have to pay another transaction fee, which means we will lose more money on transaction fees in the end, than if you had sent it to us via Paypal.

That will likely change in the future, but for now, that's the way things are. However, if you already have BTC, and you want to send us a BTC donation, NowPayments offers that service for only a .5% transaction fee, which is a pretty good rate.

For those of you who don't understand any of this yet, it's okay. As I already said, we are preparing for the currency transition that will be happening in the U.S. over the next 1-4 years, and as it happens, we will be ready.

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Evangelism / Re: JazzFest 2021 Murfreesboro TN
« on: May 02, 2021, 12:04:12 AM »
That's a lot for one day; make sure to take breaks to keep your voice.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (SOCIAL MEDIA) Telegram
« on: April 26, 2021, 03:40:28 PM »
Edit that: You do still have to download the app/program. It just has a web service so you can view it in a browser if you want. Sorry about that. However, I did go ahead and replace Clouthub with Telegram on the website, and I will be making up dates on it every week.

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What's New @ CLE / (SOCIAL MEDIA) Telegram
« on: April 26, 2021, 03:08:20 PM »
Telegram now has a webpage service, so you don't have to download the app.
https://webk.telegram.org
I may end up using this. I have a group on it called "Creation Liberty Evangelism," which is public and you can join it. I'll post updates there. I'm thinking of dropping Clouthub 'cause I don't like how it works.

Here's the short link for the Telegram CLE group:

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Bible Discussion / Re: King James Bible, Cover to Cover Reading
« on: April 11, 2021, 12:20:06 AM »
Wow, that's a huge project. I had considered doing that once, but I realized how much time that would take me, and I decided against it.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: April 03, 2021, 10:45:33 AM »
Okay, it's been more than four days and neither Vince nor Marie have logged into their accounts to answer some of this stuff.

Marie, I don't have interest in needing a decoder ring to have a conversation with someone, and it's embarrassing that you call yourself a "Christian" and cannot simply tell us about your conversion to Jesus Christ. Therefore, I don't trust you, and I'm going to remove your account.

Vince, you keep trying to repeat a narrative to "be accepted." It's very obvious now. I, and others, have to go behind you to clean up messes you leave on the forum because you are bringing leaven with you while calling yourself a "Christian." I am sad for your situation in your home, and I understand in part what you are experiencing, but even though you do not know where you stand with Jesus Christ, you have the arrogance to come here and debate with us when someone else joins. My patience is running out, especially knowing that I will potentially have to monitor because you have shown that you will to come onto new peoples' introduction posts to argue with us about things that you don't understand. As with Marie, I can't trust you, and I'm going to remove your account.

I hate having to do this, but I don't want to have to waste my time with all these responses (i.e. essentially babysitting) when I have other work to focus on. If anyone else reads this, please understand that we preach the doctrine of repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing) and remission (i.e. forgiveness) of sins, which is what Jesus Christ commanded:

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
-Luke 24:47


If you are thinking about joining the forum, and you disagree with that doctrine, then this is not the place where you will find fellowship with likeminded individuals. It's that simple.

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