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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings.

« on: January 26, 2021, 11:55:58 PM »

shrugs..
You've misconstrued most of what iv said.
Misunderstood most of it.
Then misrepresented it in quite a dishonest and saddening manner.

I already knew you would say that because it was obvious that you do not want to be held accountable for what you say, and that's because you do not have interest in that kind of Scripture:
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
-Mat 12:36
Your "shrug" summed it all up: You don't care about what you say.
Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.
-Ecc 5:2

After all i said .." Through a dream the lord caused us to be baptized in water"

That puts us at a point where I am very close to banning you because I am not going to suffer you lying to everyone.
Here is what you said: "through a powerful dream he had my wife and i get baptised in water"

Any one reading that can ascertain that it means ( as i already clarified) that God spoke to us through a dream and led us to go and get baptised in actual physical water .
In the bible joseph and mary were warned through andream... Same language type. But you twisted my words to created a false accusation. Tut tut.

You just lied about what you said, took no responsibility for your own words, then false accused me of lying. Is there any reason I should not just ban you now and get it over with?

So i never bothered to read it all .

Don't know what you mean by that; you write in sentence fragments. You do not finish full thoughts.

because when a post starts by making so many incorrect assumptions.then presents a misrepresentation through dishonesty.
 Its only going to get worse.

Well, if you don't deceitfully hide what it is you really believe (even though you knew beforehand), and if you don't lie about what you're saying, then we won't have to make assumptions. However, these are not assumptions; there are deductions and discernment based on the evidence you presented to us, so don't try to fool other people into thinking that you're justified.

I joined the forum out of curiosity. And as i said-  to ask questions for clarification.

That sounds like another lie because (and forgive if I'm wrong) I do not recall reading one question from you.

I now have that clarification.
This website  ,the more i read of it, is a contradiction of itself.

How convenient for you. Suddenly, when you're rebuked and presented with the Scripture, my ministry (and this forum) are suddenly an offense. Hmm.
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
-Gal 4:16

I.e- you said i sound aloof...as you misrepresent my words then put yourself aloof. 😆 i do laugh . It is a double standard.

Do you not understand the definition of aloof?

If i sound aloof its because i have no need of your approval. .
I live life in Jesus . i attend no sunday organisation.
I hear and obey JESUS.

I've yet to see any evidence of that, so I'm sorry, but I cannot trust you on that one. You hate correction.
Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
-Pro 15:10

So i will leave you to it and I will continue to obey JESUS

Which, I already showed you that you are not doing, but you don't care because what you call "jesus" is your own personal feelings. I can assure you, the false god of your personal feelings will NOT save you.

ps .in case you were so busy typing before you read.
I Did NOT bother to read what you posted . nor will i .

So you lied because, if you did not read my post, how did you know to debate about the word 'aloof'? What reason do you have to accuse me of "dishonesty" if you did not read my post? You lie and lie, but the pride of your heart blinds you to the fact that you've lied at least three times in this post alone. Where is that repentant heart you claim to have?
Furthermore, I didn't suspect you would read my post anyway because you don't follow Scripture:
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
-Pro 18:13

So much for that "scripture" you said you stick with because as soon as I showed it to you, you ran away. That tells me everything I needed to know, and again, I could see evidence of that from your first post. (Thank God for his blessings of discernment.) I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming week, and I hope you have a great day.
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings.

« on: January 26, 2021, 11:44:13 AM »

The article is opinion.quite patchwork in approach.makes some assumptions then presents them as fact. When they are not fact. I was a bit dissapointed by that .
And the scripture is scripture.
I just stick to the scripture.
I cant cause people to spontaneously break into
Speaking a new language.

Okay, that's what I needed to know. I thought your posts were very strange, even the first one, which is why I wanted to ask some questions to clarify. You speak in a very aloof (i.e. distant) manner in which you seem to hold yourself above others, which is quite contrary to Scripture and the church (Phil 2:3), and it made me cautious very quickly; furthermore, your second post only served to increase my caution.

I pointed out the error of your sentence, in which you first indicated that you had been baptized in a dream instead of in reality, and instead of just answering that, you IMMEDIATELY made an excuse for yourself first BEFORE you addressed the point. That typically indicates someone who claims they have "godly sorrow," but in their hearts, they are actually lifted up in pride. Now, in your particular case, based on what you have told us so far, it seems that you have lifted yourself up in pride because you trust the feelings of your heart more than the Scripture.

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
-Jeremiah 17:9
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
-Pro 28:26
(i.e. a fool in Scripture is someone who cannot be reasoned with)

It's amazing to me that you thought that none of us would see through what you're saying, namely that, you make smile emojis while you offer up back-handed slaps with your words. For example:
Yes i read that article you link to.
I wasnt too concerned.
That is, you read the Scripture, and were not rebuked for your false religious practices because you believe your feelings are the equivalent of the Holy Spirit. And since you FEEL like you are Spirit-driven, therefore, you cannot be reasoned with from the Scripture (which is one of the reasons you do not use it to prove your points, which is what Tim just pointed out to you).

Furthermore:
And the scripture is scripture.
I just stick to the scripture.
I might have ignored such a comment from someone who actually offered up a Biblical defense for his position, but you did not offer anything. You just gave us your vague, lazy opinion, and then hypocritically called my research, study, and teachings in Scripture an "opinion." At the very least, that shows us that you do not take us seriously at all. In the context of the conversation, what you actually said was: "Chris, I read your teaching, and I can tell you don't follow Scripture like I follow Scripture," which is more of that arrogance. Do you speak which such a heart of superiority with other people in your everyday life? I would hope to God that you don't, but there are two important things I want you to understand:

1. That arrogance is pride, and God does not give His grace to the proud of heart:
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
-Jms 4:6

2. We stick to the Scripture, meaning that we do not follow our dreams and feelings when they contradict the Word of God:
The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
-Pro 15:28

This does not mean we are righteous of ourselves, but those who have been imputed righteousness by Jesus Christ (Rom 4:11) are expected to study to answer these matters, not just blow them off when it doesn't match the narrative of your personal feelings.

I already anticipated that you believe in some wild things based on your first post, but I had to ask questions to clarify because I did not want to assume; however, you have already given me more than enough. For example, you said "I cant cause people to spontaneously break into speaking a new language," and that already tells me that not only do you believe that you speak in strange, unknown languages (i.e. baby gibberish, or more aptly, Satanic gibberish), but that you believe that the Scripture teaches that you are to be speaking in languages that are not (or cannot) be known to men. I would like to see your Scriptural backing for that because I already disproved that in the teaching you said you read.

We pray " lord JESUS please baptize this person in your Holy Spirit of promise - in Jesus name. And that happens.
Interesting. How do you tell the difference between someone who is faking it and someone who is not? I already know the answer to that question, and it's not based on that Scripture you said you "stick to."

But thats not the central focus of a disciples life.
Hmm. But you did think it was important enough that you had to mention it in your introduction post, while you failed to tell us very simple things like, how you found us, or why you are here. You tell us you "stick to the scripture" while at the same time saying in your first post that, "as a teen i was anything but Christian and still dont like to use that title of myself," despite the fact that the Scripture says:
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
-1Pe 4:16

I keep seeing contradiction after contradiction with your words, which means you likely will not enjoy your time here because we would have to rebuke you in many of your posts. The reason for that is because your heart is corrupt in some manner, which is apparent by the words you speak.
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
-Mat 15:18

But of all these red flags, the biggest one is this:
Then on the other side are people who focus so much on the written word they dont get to know the one the written word is speaking about.
This points out not only your ignorance of what the Word of God is, but also your overt hypocrisy based on what you have told us so far. First of all, if a man wants to know God, then He needs to hear from God, and God provided His Word through his prophets so that mankind can know him. If you are unable to understand that concept, I am not sure I can help you.
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
-Rom 10:17

So not only do you contradict the Scripture, and not only is this a (if I may be so blunt to say) pathetic excuse to give you an back-door exit when you are caught in a Biblical contradiction, but furthermore, it destroys your own argument:
And the scripture is scripture. I just stick to the scripture.
Obviously, you don't stick to the Scripture because of what you just said. If a man presents you with a Biblical argument against what you already presume to believe is true, you simply call it his "opinion," and then say that that man is just not "getting to know the one the written word is speaking about," as a quick excuse to justify yourself.

After so many years of doing this, it has become relatively easy for me to tell when someone is here to learn, grow, and fellowship (which is what this forum was created for), versus when someone comes here to argue in strife. You came here for the latter, did you not? You already knew there were seriously Biblical disagreements, but came here anyway in deception by trying to appear that we are all in agreement, instead of just being open in honesty with everyone about your intentions. I want to make is abundantly clear to you that we are not here to pet your pride, and our purpose is not to accept you as brethren just because you claim to believe on Jesus, or just because you claim to have godly sorrow because I can tell you without a doubt in my mind that:

Your tears of baby gibberish are NOT the equivalent of repentance, and the feelings of your heart are NOT the equivalent of the Holy Spirit.

If you want to hang on to Pentecostal traditions, you are free to do so, but you will not be like-minded with us because those are corrupt traditions based on false prophets. Christians do what Jesus told us to do:
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
-Mat 3:10
You need to cast off the traditions of men because they will do you no good. They only serve to work against the Gospel of Jesus Christ:
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
-Mark 7:13

Departing from the Pentecostal religion does not automatically make one born again in Jesus Christ.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings.

« on: January 26, 2021, 12:03:07 AM »

So did you say it wrong in the first post? You said: "through a powerful dream he had my wife and i get baptised in water" -- that leads me to believe you claim to be baptized in (i.e. through) a dream. Are you now saying that you had a dream, and that led you to be baptized in reality?

I am not sure what you mean by speaking in tongues. For example, is it in line with the following link?
Speaking in Tongues vs Charismatic Gibberish

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Corruptions of Christianity: Catholicism p17

« on: January 25, 2021, 02:04:11 PM »

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings.

« on: January 24, 2021, 11:45:21 PM »

Hey Mike; I'm not sure what you mean "baptized in water" "through a powerful dream" -- such a thing does not exist in Scripture.

I also don't know what you personally mean by "tongues." I hope you would be willing to take the time to clarify those things for me so I can understand. Thanks.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (VIDEO) CLE Current Events Update | 1-22-21

« on: January 23, 2021, 01:22:23 PM »

The federal registry website now has Biden's "Executive Orders" published. It just took a few days. Don't panic; they are meaningless, as you will find out soon enough. We just need to wait a bit. Keep vigilant and stay in prayer; be consistent in those things because God has heard our prayers, and we need to hold fast in faith that He will see this through for us.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (VIDEO) CLE Current Events Update | 1-22-21

« on: January 23, 2021, 11:31:54 AM »

A couple of notes; I put a note in the video that says they took videos of the inauguration down, and that was based on what my wife had told me while I was doing editing on the video. It turns out that she did not double check the links she was using, and I should have double checked her. I got busy, and I had been working all day on that video, and so I did not bother to take the time to double check her, so now she apologizes, and I apologize.

Also, it is possible that the Standard Hotel reference may have been related to something else that took place in 2017. However, that being said, praise God that the Standard Hotel closed because there are many demonic things that have taken place there.

Remember, not everything I have ever taught has always been accurate; I have had to make many corrections over the years. I have never claimed that the Holy Ghost is speaking directly through every word I say, and for anyone who would make that claim, I'm sure you all would be very skeptical of that person. I provide information, and I try to make it the best I can with what I have access to, but if you put your faith completely in me, then your faith is in the wrong person; rather, you should put your faith in Jesus Christ and do your own research. I do the work and I am a useful tool you can take advantage of, but I am not giver of all wisdom, knowledge, and understand, so go to the Lord God for discernment.

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What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) CLE Current Events Update | 1-22-21

« on: January 22, 2021, 09:55:37 PM »

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Special Teaching: The U.S. Insurrection Act

« on: January 17, 2021, 03:23:14 PM »

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Evangelism / Re: Do all conversions look the same?

« on: January 16, 2021, 01:32:04 AM »

Those who have the Spirit of God in them will welcome the doctrine of repentance, but those without it will reject it. You just need to stop living in fear and move forward boldly in faith.

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General Discussion / Re: Florida Rumble

« on: January 15, 2021, 09:29:38 PM »

It is possible that they are collapsing tunnels. Lorraine was doing research today on the network of underground tunnels in the U.S. called "DUMB" (Deep Underground Military Bases), which are being used to traffic child sex slaves. The plan is to destroy these tunnels. We believe that is what is happening right now, but it is not proven; we will wait and see.
See here for details: (http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1251.msg10171#msg10171)

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What's New @ CLE / Re: NOTICE: Changes in Social Media

« on: January 14, 2021, 05:02:19 PM »

I have to wait and see where everything is going to fall over the next few months, but companies involved with China in any capacity are going to go down. There is a good possibility that most of the social media platforms (i.e. publishers) will get broken up concerning what is about to happen in the U.S. This means that I may have another change in the current social media I am using in the near future, and I don't mean for everyone to have to keep making new accounts for different things, but I will adapt with the changes that are coming. I just want people to know that it is likely that things like Facebook and YouTube may not available anymore, and we will have to wait and see. I'm going to do a bit more research and see what is available when the dust settles.

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General Discussion / Re: A Taste of What is Coming in the Next Week or Two

« on: January 13, 2021, 01:40:23 PM »

Update: Pelosi was in the house speaking today. I am presuming that she was not allowed to hold the position of speaker on a resolution she was in charge of proposing. My mistake. I apologize for being presumptuous, and I will try not to do that again. However, we need to wait out the week next week. If nothing happens by Jan 20th, I will apologize publicly to everyone, but again, be cautious of what you hear on the mainstream media.

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What's New @ CLE / (ARTICLE) The Biblical Understanding of Perfection

« on: January 13, 2021, 05:04:51 AM »

The Biblical Understanding of Perfection

Due to the modern usage of the word 'perfect', many churchgoers are led astray to its true meaning in Scripture.

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General Discussion / Re: A Taste of What is Coming in the Next Week or Two

« on: January 13, 2021, 02:04:31 AM »

Just a reminder to everyone to remain faithful and in prayer. This is NOT over; in fact, it is not anywhere near over. It's only just beginning. We need to understand that a great civil war and world war is beginning. This is not going to end with just America. There is no need to fear or panic because we serve the Lord Jesus Christ, but I want you all to understand that we are here for one another. Things are going to heat up soon, and you will not hear much about it in the media, and we are, for the most part, in the dark. Be patient and faithful.

I'm going to try to keep working on articles and teachings, and I am backing up my work now just in case.

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General Discussion / Re: A Taste of What is Coming in the Next Week or Two

« on: January 12, 2021, 04:23:08 PM »

Kevin, I know you and Jeanne have been posting some things like this, but frankly, I'm not really interested in too much of it right now. I know there are a lot of things that need to be revealed, but I'm more interested in keep this thread focused on what's going on right now; it's just that there is not much information being shared with the public yet, so we have to be faithful, pray, and wait.

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General Discussion / Re: A Taste of What is Coming in the Next Week or Two

« on: January 12, 2021, 03:45:14 PM »

It is very odd what is happening right now for many reasons. Trump broke media silence today, and his words were VERY vague, but there were some hidden messages for us in there. I won't speculate yet; I will wait for more evidence. His visit to the Texas border today was also very odd. He gave a speech, went on and on about his administration's accomplishments, complimented our border patrol, and then left. When these kinds of out-of-place things happen, it is often not what is being said that is important, but what is happening behind the scenes. I do not yet know what they just did while Trump was speaking, but something happened because it makes no sense for Trump to be in Alamo today, and what he said was just bland considering what is happening right now. We'll just have to wait and see, but Nancy Pelosi is still missing, and we have heard nothing from the Clintons or the Obamas in the past few days.

Whatever happens, do NOT trust anything that comes out of the mainstream media, and even be cautious about what you hear from alternative media. There is a lot that has to unfold, and I cannot verify it, but I heard that a bunch of classified documentation was released to the public today. Again, I'm not sure if it's true, but we will see in the next few days.

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General Discussion / Re: A Taste of What is Coming in the Next Week or Two

« on: January 12, 2021, 01:28:53 PM »

By the way, it was confirmed at 9AM this morning; Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was not in session and had a substitute stand in. She is missing AGAIN today. This is not a coincidence. Keep praying, and stay faithful to the Lord Jesus Christ.

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General Discussion / Re: A Taste of What is Coming in the Next Week or Two

« on: January 12, 2021, 01:13:39 PM »

Facebook and Twitter blocked this, but listen to Joe Biden two weeks after the election. He was unsure of what was going to happen at that point, even though he claimed he won the election.
https://app.clouthub.com/post/369462a1-54ff-11eb-9d1a-b77e96cdddf4
Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Mitt Romney, and John Kerry all have sons, and those sons are on the board of Ukrainian energy companies. You can put the pieces together yourself.

I assure you, this was already known to Trump and the military LONG before this point. The time is coming soon.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Good morning

« on: January 12, 2021, 05:37:05 AM »

Probably a good idea. We'll wait to hear from you later.