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General Discussion / TD Jakes: No surprise to anyone who's been paying attention.
« Last post by someguy85 on January 14, 2024, 05:23:18 AM »
A few weeks ago, apparently a story broke, where (in)famous prosperity "gospel" personality "bishop" TD Jakes was outed as being involved with a lot of young men, even a few under legal age. That one actually came as little surprise to me, especially when he was galivanting around with a few well known people in hollywood (enough said), but the thing I found interesting was the reaction to it, as in a lot of people were surprised, as if no one ever saw it possible that he was capable of this.

Two quick an easy lesson to take away from this, number one, I dare say fame is poisonous. If everyone is speaking well of you, you're doing something very wrong, and when someone is spoken highly of in the entertainment circles, then there's every chance they are of the world and not of God, or as some places in the USA say "Lie down with dogs and you'll eventually get up with fleas".

Point two, and I know Chris has said this a number of times but there are sill WAY too many people that do this, respecting persons is sin, as James states in Chapter 2:

2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, [the Lord] of glory, with respect of persons.
2:2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
2:3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit
here under my footstool:
2:4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom
which he hath promised to them that love him?
2:6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

I'd also like to point out in 2:7 that James says they also blaspheme the name by which we are called. For those of you who aren't familiar, the prosperity gospel has two gods, money and themselves, they're the quintessential example of the section in 2 Peter Chapter 2:

2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation
slumbereth not.
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Kurds and Way.  :D
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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....
« Last post by Zoologistkid on December 31, 2023, 09:07:00 PM »
Chris, thank you for explaining that to me, I can see his rejection of his sin in the way he always talks about being kicked out of places like this forum. He just said that it was because of wicked men and women but if this is how he reacted to asking genuine questions or disagreement to an issue, I can frankly see why he was kicked out. If he cannot see any of his sins except for being gay, then he truly can't judge himself or have a discussion.

Kenneth, I checked out your YouTube channel and found one of his comments:
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You are not sent by the Holy Spirit, nor are you speaking in the Power of the Holy Spirit.  You are not treating these people in humility.  You are not there by the Holy Spirit.  You stated you've lead 100's of people to Jesus Christ, where are they? Then  you stated they rejected.  That is not leading people to Jesus Christ. Leading people to Jesus Christ means the Holy Spirit brought them to Salvation. If they rejected Him, then you have not lead people to Jesus Christ.  Who sent you, your local fellowship, or have you decided to just go out on your own?  One needs to be sent, so that they are added unto the Body of Christ, where they will be fed the Word of God, teaching them to depend on Jesus to finish that which He started within them.   
How does one get "contrite"?  It's the Holy Spirit that grants a person the Grace to be convicted of sin, leading unto Confession of sin, then Repentance, cleansing, and the sealing by the Holy Spirit.
Very sad........
Earlier, I checked out his website(s) and his blog is attached to other blog including his other blog called "My Blog". These blogs are difficult to navigate and there is no attempt at making easier to navigate for visitors. He believes that there is a seven-year tribulation period, there is no free will, uses the greek scam, street preaching is useless, and will often use the New King James.
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I once shared with him how an “street evangelist” should not be preaching,  where Christ is preached in various cities, because Paul speaks, how he only “preached Christ” where it was not preached, so that he would not build on another’s foundation. Rom 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man’s foundation:
Rom 15:21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand. I also shared with him, that the local body of Christ needs to send him out to preach, because he is backed up by that Body.  To go off on one’s own is not following after the “foundation as practiced and taught by the Apostles.
He did not like my sharing this info, so he deleted my comments without discussion and then proceeded to un-follow my blog and blocked me from his blog.   
https://comeseegoodnessofthelord.wordpress.com/2021/03/20/i-need-to-warn-true-believers-to-beware-of-the-many-false-teachers-and-fake-christian-bloggers-web-sites-and-you-tube-christian-channels-which-have-filled-these-venues-with-a-false-witness-a/

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The use of the Greek word “tropos,” which is used in the English phrase “in like manner,” instructs believers to expect at Christ’s return for them parallels of what had been witnessed at His departure.
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We now return to the Scriptures we originally cited in the outset of this message. It is here that we will uncover the error of those who insist that the Rapture (that is the immortal glorification and catching up of the Church to the Lord) takes place at the same time when Christ returns to the earth at the close of the age.
https://watchman1948.wordpress.com/2023/09/24/jesus-returns-in-like-manner/

He keeps coming back because he, the Holy and Sacred Man who was Taught by the Holy Spirit who Can Never be Corrected, was accused of saying or teaching something wrong. He can't take it, so he is fine with lying, railing, and committing sinful acts, just so he can get some form of revenge. He teaches that men shall suffer for serving Christ and he is proving that is a fact.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. -Matthew 5:11
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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....
« Last post by Kenneth Winslow on December 31, 2023, 08:28:16 PM »
Frankly, I didn't want to engage with this guy at all. But Chris prompted me, indirectly, so I did. And I turned out as I expected.
Nonetheless, it needed to be done for multiple reasons.

1. Everyone should be given the opportunity to answer questions and expound on their testimony.

2. We can't make new friends or mark toxic people and false converts if we don't challenge them.

3. Whether for the positive or negative, people benefit from seeing or participating in such engagements.

There may be more but that's all I can think of.
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