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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by Kenneth Winslow on December 31, 2023, 08:19:49 PM »

The main reason I kept pressing him was in hopes of hearing something about him being grieved over his own choices and behavior. I wasn't looking for details, but repentance of the sin he claimed he'd committed.

Instead he went and started trolling my YouTube channel. 

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by creationliberty on December 31, 2023, 08:08:42 PM »

... That was a lie, even though he just lied about his lies by saying, "Who is lying here, not I." I don't believe this man ever came to repentance of his sin, and I think Kenneth hit the nail on the head, namely, that Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin.

I have been thinking about this as well and I can say a little confused when you said. When you said, "Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin." Do you mean Cal doesn't feel ashamed nor have any grief and Godly Sorrow for his sins and actions? He believes that he is the victim of others' sins but not his own. That would certainly explain his behavior here. Is this what you meant?

I was living in the homosexual lifestyle for many years, and 46 years ago, the Lord revealed His truth to me, and brought conviction of my sinful life, and that it was a lie.
Kenneth's confusion was that it seemed to be that he said his lifestyle was a lie, but not that his sin was condemned. As I pointed out earlier, condemnation and conviction mean the same thing, albeit, they are most often used in separate contexts; typically, as far as I understand it, condemnation being projected while conviction is aimed inward.

Here are just some of the things he stated after he said that he was given "repentance" by God:

I... lived a secret life in the gay lifestyle.
I was sexually, emotionally, and physically abused by my mother
I was rejected by her
my father was not there for me also.
She hated me
I was sexually abused
I grew up in so much confusion, pain, and suffered endless depressions
I never had real friends in school
due to the abuses, I also tired to commit suicide at the age of 14

I could go on. This was just in his first post, which turned out to be copy-pasted from his blog.

Where exactly is HIS sin? These are justifications or qualifiers for victimhood. He's simply playing the victim, which means the sins are everyone else's, not his own. How can he have been given repentance of HIS sin, when all he does is blame everyone else?

Kenneth has seen this many times with people, in which they try to act like they are of Christ, but they never came to repentance of THEIR OWN sin. If he has any sin, or acknowledges any sin, it's only at the fault of others around him. When responding to Kenneth, in which he only repeated himself, he added another line about condemnation and conviction being opposites, when they are, in fact, the same thing conceptually. Then I called him out on that, and he essentially lost his temperance pretty quickly (i.e. he's not longsuffering).

These are good lessons for the church to learn the difference between godly sorrow and worldly sorrow, and to learn the patterns of people who try to trick us into thinking they are contrite. We know what it was like to be saved, we know what it was like to come to repentance, and we know that we blamed no one but ourselves when that time came.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by Zoologistkid on December 31, 2023, 09:34:16 AM »

... That was a lie, even though he just lied about his lies by saying, "Who is lying here, not I." I don't believe this man ever came to repentance of his sin, and I think Kenneth hit the nail on the head, namely, that Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin.

I have been thinking about this as well and I can say a little confused when you said. When you said, "Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin." Do you mean Cal doesn't feel ashamed nor have any grief and Godly Sorrow for his sins and actions? He believes that he is the victim of others' sins but not his own. That would certainly explain his behavior here. Is this what you meant?

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by Zoologistkid on December 30, 2023, 05:13:47 PM »

This is why he was angry that we critiqued and questioned him. He is here for ONE REASON ONLY: To advertise his useless blog that no one reads.

Yeah, he was advertising for his blog as can be seen here:

Yes, and according to your "rules" If one has a website, which you should be reading to get to know what I have been taught by the Lord, I could then join your "Skype" meetings.  Which I will not be doing since I can not fellowship with those who are dishonest, and do carry on with Masonic symbolism.  Eventually the fruit of a ministry comes forward when presented with truth.

I will be adding this "CLE" ministry to my Blog writings warning the sheep to stay away from ALL cult Forum's. And the teachings of Christopher JE Johnson and pointing out why.

On a side note, I know that just because one has a website does not mean they are automatically allowed into the meetings. So where is he coming from? I also find it funny how he accuses us of dishonesty and using masonic symbolism without pointing out a single one of either.

Since you never welcomed me from the onset, but only coming running to protect and support your idol. You have nothing worth while to say, because you are part of the Forum cult to protect your master.

Who is lying here, not I.

On another note, I think I need to explain why I didn't introduce myself to Cal. I didn't because I was suspicious when he first joined. Specifically, his introduction was a little weird as both Kenneth, Chris, and Rowan pointed out. The fact he went for a big post trying to convince everyone of some topic nearly immediately after he joined didn't help. I thought if I did introduce it would have been a waste of time because it could end the same way with the person either leaving or being banned due to not wanting to be like-minded. So I just waited to see if my suspicion was necessary to join in on the discussion. If it was wrong of me to do so, please let me know.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by creationliberty on December 30, 2023, 03:39:05 PM »

He only asked rhetorical questions. We asked him questions for information. There is a huge difference.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by Zoologistkid on December 30, 2023, 02:42:25 PM »

Luk_9:5  And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.


Since you never welcomed me from the onset, but only coming running to protect and support your idol. You have nothing worth while to say, because you are part of the Forum cult to protect your master.

Who is lying here, not I.

And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. Luke 9:3-5

I was thinking of what he said and concluded: He was not fulfilling these verses because these required him to leave but he just kept coming right back. Kenneth, Rowan, and Chris all did receive him and wanted a conversation but he was the one that didn't receive them nor did he want discussion.

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General Discussion / Re: Disciples of Jesus Christ joining the Military.....is it the Lord's Will....No!

« Last post by creationliberty on December 30, 2023, 12:20:13 PM »

Oooo... he can keyword search "mock."

I can do that too:

And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.
-1Ki 18:27

He's already lied more than once about leaving, and he keeps coming back. He wants to be banned so he can go on his blog and say that he was banned. He wants that justification. Okay, I'll give it him.

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General Discussion / Re: Disciples of Jesus Christ joining the Military.....is it the Lord's Will....No!

« Last post by Watchman4Lord on December 30, 2023, 12:04:48 PM »

I will be adding this "CLE" ministry to my Blog writings warning the sheep to stay away from ALL cult Forum's. And the teachings of Christopher JE Johnson and pointing out why.

Oh no! Whatever will I do? No one's ever said anything bad about me before!


Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
-Mat 5:11

Jer_15:17  I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.
Jud_1:18  How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by creationliberty on December 30, 2023, 11:46:39 AM »

For everyone else, Caleb pointed out that this guy had a blog. I didn't realize that before, and I was doing a bit of search online for some of the things he was posting, but I couldn't find any direct matches through multiple search engines. His posts were a bit stuffy, and it didn't seem like he wrote it for the purpose this forum. It appeared to be copy/pasted, but because I couldn't find a direct quote, even after I tried a few of them on different search engines, I just let it go.

However, his introduction was a copy-paste of his blog:
https://comeseegoodnessofthelord.wordpress.com/2020/06/29/example-post-3/

Furthermore, his other post is another copy-paste of his blog:
https://comeseegoodnessofthelord.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/disciples-of-jesus-christ-joining-the-military-is-like-adding-lemon-juice-to-milk-it-just-doesnt-mix/comment-page-1/

This is why he was angry that we critiqued and questioned him. He is here for ONE REASON ONLY: To advertise his useless blog that no one reads.

In fact, as I looked through more of his site, I found where he has attempted this with other people too. He goes around trying to gain himself more attention. So when he said:
"I'm looking for true Spiritual fellowship with other like minded Disciples of Jesus Christ."

... That was a lie, even though he just lied about his lies by saying, "Who is lying here, not I." I don't believe this man ever came to repentance of his sin, and I think Kenneth hit the nail on the head, namely, that Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« Last post by creationliberty on December 30, 2023, 11:40:19 AM »

Okay, so then leave. Why are you still here? Go back to your blog which no one hardly ever reads and whine to whoever you think will listen. If you ever want to answer my inquiry, feel free to come back and answer it. I pray the Lord Jesus Christ will give you and your household as much mercy as He has give me and mine. Have a great day.