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Watchman4Lord:
Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.[/b][/u]


Disciples of Jesus Christ joining the Military……is like adding Lemon juice to milk…….it just doesn’t mix..
Sheep offered up for the slaughter.

Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.


“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.” Henry Kissinger, quoted by Bob Woodward in The Final Days, 1976"


I would like to start by informing those who shall read this posting, that the present day “plandemic” is all based on Fraudulent and baseless lies, and deception, for the purpose of utilizing fear tactic’s through evil propaganda to manipulate and control the fearful in this world, to bring about their murderous campaign against the human masses. This is done by a group of men and women who have been planning and organizing to establish the New World Order, for centuries, by following their Masonic Protocols, in which they are carrying out to rid this earth of humans, whom they consider “the cancer of this world”.

I state this because it is this same group of people who helped to organize and planned all the World Wars 1 & 2, and all smaller wars since, to eliminate the human masses, and to manipulate the masses into “Social Changes”, and the break down of families, and Moral principals. These wars were put into place by the wicked devices of men and women such as: The Royal Families, President’s, Prime minister’s, Christian ministries and pastor’s and other Governing rulers throughout the world to all generations. All the while these wicked and evil human’s were making huge profits off the wars they planned, while the “soldier’s” who thought they were fighting against evil, to protect their families and countries, were actually being human sacrifices offered up to their “Masonic god” the devil.

To save space, the following links are articles that have been written, which will give details of all that was mentioned above:

The first one titled “Was Is A Racket” was written by Smedley Darlington Butler:
It is a 12 page, downloadable pdf file. Breaking down the profits made by a multitude of companies, and corporation’s.

Awarded two congressional medals of honor: capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914 , capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917
Distinguished service medal, 1919
Major General – United States Marine Corps
Retired Oct. 1, 1931
On leave of absence to act as
director of Dept. of Safety, Philadelphia, 1932
Lecturer — 1930’s
Republican Candidate for Senate, 1932
Died at Naval Hospital, Philadelphia, June 21, 1940

https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

Here is another, titled “About the Military” by Paul Stramer

http://www.paulstramer.net/2021/11/about-military.html


“The mission of Psychological Operations (psyops) is to influence the behavior of foreign target audiences to support US national objectives. A psyop accomplishes this by conveying selected information and advising on actions that influence the emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign audiences. Behavioral change is at the root of the psyop mission. “

https://survivaldan101.com/covid-19-a-psychological-military-operation-part-i/

And another: https://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2018/05/3-world-wars-planned-by-illuminati.html

Now here is an article I found interesting, because it is titled: New Humanist, “Backward Christian soldier” I am placing this because as you read you will find the so-called “Christian influences” coming from the “Christian Right” such as Bill Bright, who founded the “Christian Embassy” a non-profit NGO for the United Nations and who has long standing ties with the CNP, Council on National Policy” along with other Famous Masonic pastor’s, evangelist’s and Christian author’s, and ministries which you find listed on the The Vast Right Wing Wiki web-site listed below the New Humanist link.

https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/press-releases/newhumanist.html

https://rightwing.fandom.com/wiki/Council_for_National_Policy

Also I desire to place a link which will confirm those who have been listed in the Vast Right Wing Wiki, which clearly reveal all who are of the Anti-Christ spirit within so-called Main Stream Christianity. Be prepared to have your eyes opened.

https://rense.com/general20/unholy.htm

I place all of the above information to tie together and reveal how the Masonic influences within the Military and the so-called “Christian” leader’s are not serving the Lord and His Children for Righteousness sake, but to use them for the Anti-Christ system and it’s One World Church and One World Order goals. This is why no true Disciple of Christ can serve within any branch of the Military or any governmental office in any capacity!

How are Disciples of Christ to assist in the murdering of millions for the sake of establishing the One World Order and it’s One World Church? The reality is, and I pray the Lord grant those who read this the grace to believe and search out and prove all things, because we need to face the terrible reality that main stream church pastor’s have for over a hundred years, have been sending men and women to serve in the Anti-Christ system under the false guise of “God and Country, for Peace and security against the enemies to freedom, family, and faith!

Next, I would like to reveal when, where and by whom the Government controlled 501 (C) (3) churches started. Lyndon B. Johnson started this in the year of 1954. He was a puppet for the Masonic Illuminati organization’s. Here is a quote from the info found on the link given below. “Although Johnson publicly proffered tax exempt status as a favor to religious organizations the favor came with strings attached which today are governmental shackles. Today, the effects of 501c3 acceptance in America is devastating as silence reigns in the place of opposition to New World Order agenda’s in government. Today, most all religions in America are 501c3 tax-exempt and these organizations are prohibited from addressing any vital issues as they are government controlled and regulated organizations under the mighty iron claw of the IRS.”

So this is to assist you in facing the truth that about 95% of main-stream “Christianity” is not the true representation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and the Apostles. I ask you do your own research into this matter, for all believer’s are accountable to “search out all things” for what purpose?

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1Th 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

http://www.nwotoday.com/the-socialist-review-american-politicians/lyndon-b-johnson

After reading the above information at the links given, here are scripture’s from our Heavenly Father’s Word, that inform’s us what true Disciples of Christ are to represent;

Psa_12:8  The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.

Psa_139:19  Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.

Psa_141:4  Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties. Pro_4:14  Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men.
Pro_11:7  When a wicked man dieth, his expectation shall perish: and the hope of unjust men perisheth.


Mat 5:9  Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Mat 5:44  But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Mat 5:45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Mat 5:46  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

Mat 26:51  And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.

Mat 26:52  Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

Joh 15:19  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Rom 12:2  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Rom 12:18  If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Rom 12:17  Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
Rom 12:19  Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Heb 12:14  Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

Gal 5:19  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Gal 5:20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Gal 5:21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

.Eph 6:11  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Eph 6:12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Eph 6:13  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Eph 6:14  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

The scriptures are just a few of what our Lord’s Word has to say on this very important issue, I leave it up to you as faithful disciples to search out all things that pertains to His Will, and not of religious and fallen men who’s devices are pure evil. Don’t even get me started about “Christian” women being joined to these godless agencies, which allow men and women to be in such close encounter’s with one another, no wonder the sexual abuses attacks are kept “secret”.

There are a couple of so-called “military christian fellowships” that I have found, there are probably more, but two is enough to give witness to the lies each of these “services” provide to “Christians”:

1) Officer’s Christian Fellowship:

https://www.ocfusa.org/2009/06/christian-serve-military-2/

Where they falsely represent God’s Word, and misinterpret to match their “Dominion Theology” agenda. “One World Church”.


2.)Christian Military Fellowship has Oliver North promoting the organization……

Here is Oliver North giving his testimony at Pastor Allen Jackson’s “World Wide Church” meeting in May 2021, apparently his experience by Gen. John S. Grinald’s healing him before he was a believer lead him to the “Lord”. Which “Lord” is very questionable, because Gen John S. Grinald’s background is closely related to Masonic influences. And I can not find any testimony of Gen Grinald’s belief’s, nor where he attends a church, the same with Oliver North……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUzoeu-4uJM

https://www.cmfhq.org/Info/About-Us

Oliver North is part and parcel of the “One World Order”, and has always been surrounded by Masonic Military personnel, and in the White House during Ronald Reagan’s years in office. Mr. North is not a Christian.

All of the mentioned “Christian Military” sites above, are ecumenical, please check out some of the “comments’ made by various men and some women. Some do mention they disagree with true Christians serving in the Military and other’s agree with the “Dominion Theology” that is portrayed on the site.

May the Lord bless all who read this and become aware, that we are living through a time of the “Great falling away”……….The One World Church, and the One World Order has infiltrated every branch of main-stream Christianity…….so please I pray the Lord will assist you in your obedience to Him,”Come out from among them”!
2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
2Co 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

May the Lord bless you and keep you in His Ways.
In His Eternal Love…..

creationliberty:
I want to reply to this because I want anyone reading this to understand that the idea that joining the military after becoming a Christian is not necessarily a sin, but I could not provide a Scriptural justification for it either. That being said, what Cal wrote here is NOT a good argument for a Christian not joining the military.

Illuminati, NGOs, New World Order... blah blah blah. This is the same garbage that comes out of "conspiracy ministries" that corrupts the minds of Christians. These types of posts/articles are a dime-a-dozen, and often offer the same tired lines that are flawed from a Scriptural perspective because, most often, those verses they use are taken out of context. I know because I sounded somewhat like this when I started writing, but I was still a young Christian at the time (i.e. I had only been saved about seven years) -- the above post came from a near 50-year veteran, and he should know better by now.

The second half where there was a Scriptural argument made peaked my interest, but I was quickly let down because all Cal is arguing is that there are bad people in the military, and there are bad people leading the military, therefore, we should not have anything to do with it. This is flawed and absurd logic because if we were to apply that philosophical reasoning, we could not be citizens of any country, nor could we be employed by almost any company (and that is the sense in which he quoted 2Co 6 at the end, which is NOT the contextual meaning of that passage), and that would make it impossible to just have a home and earn a living to support one's family.

Cal only joined this forum yesterday, and I don't know why he decided to jump into the deep end to start preaching this garbage. I know he's going to be angry that I call it garbage, but this is a bunch of copy/pasted quotes with peoples' feelings and opinions, nothing more, and all it will do is confuse people reading this. It does not address the core philosophical understanding that Christ would have us to know because it does not address sin of the individual, rather, Cal preferred to say that sin is in the world (obviously), and we should avoid sin (obviously, even children know this), therefore, we should avoid the world, which is contrary to the doctrine of Scripture... we should not love the world, but we must live in the world.

I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
-1Co 5:9-10

If anyone wants to properly address this subject, then do so from the perspective of slavery versus freedom. When you enroll in the military, you put yourself under a contract, and that contract limits what you can say and do fairly strictly. What this means is that if the Holy Spirit leads you and/or convicts you to do something, and the military says "No," then you cannot do that thing, which forces you to follow men instead of God.

However, Paul addressed this issue for those who were born again AFTER they had already joined the military:

Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called. Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather. For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant. Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
-1Co 7:20-24

Paul did not preach joining the military was sin because that does not address the core problem. If you were in the military when you were born again in Christ, then it was ordained for you to be there at that time for some specific reason God had in mind, so then serve in the military as if you were serving Christ Himself. Study Scripture and pray. Do a good job. Work hard. However, if you are presented with the opportunity to leave lawfully and peacefully, then you, by the wisdom of the Holy Spirit in this passage, ought to leave so you can be the Lord's freeman, and serve according to His will.

For this reason, I would urge Christians to not join the military, unless forced upon by the government to do so (like in a draft). If you are in it, then leave by lawful and peaceful means when the opportunity is presented. This is a simple a matter of a contractual agreement you will have to sign when you first join the military, in which you are signing away your freedom to serve under men as a soldier of the public. One cannot serve Christ in full liberty while under a military contract.

Once you understand it from that perspective, it makes Cal's post (and all the references he provided) completely unnecessary, and again, I would argue that superfluous information like that only confuses young Christians, which is why I so heavily and firmly objected to it.

Watchman4Lord:
Thank you for your response.
This informs me exactly who and what you believe.
There is no "conspiracy" nonsense in my article. It's all based on truth and facts which is founded upon the Lord's Word. We are not to be deceived by the wicked devices of fallen men.
I know I will be "banned" but that is the way these so-called "Christian" Forums work. They are all the same lead by men who do not walk in the Spirit of the Lord, nor the Spirit of His Word.

Lord bless you......
Goodbye......

Zoologistkid:

--- Quote ---Thank you for your response.
This informs me exactly who and what you believe.
There is no "conspiracy" nonsense in my article. It's all based on truth and facts which is founded upon the Lord's Word. We are not to be deceived by the wicked devices of fallen men.
I know I will be "banned" but that is the way these so-called "Christian" Forums work. They are all the same lead by men who do not walk in the Spirit of the Lord, nor the Spirit of His Word.

Lord bless you......
Goodbye......

--- End quote ---

You will only be banned if you do things against forum rules and regulations. Your original post does not break any rules but this one does with false accusations, refusing to reason out topics in contention, and committing uncharitable judgments.
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Proverbs 6:16-19

Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom. Proverbs 13:10

Now that you are leaving, I will say this: keep your word and depart from us in peace.
Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease. Proverbs 22:10

creationliberty:

--- Quote from: Watchman4Lord on December 30, 2023, 03:36:30 AM ---Thank you for your response.
This informs me exactly who and what you believe.
There is no "conspiracy" nonsense in my article. It's all based on truth and facts which is founded upon the Lord's Word. We are not to be deceived by the wicked devices of fallen men.
I know I will be "banned" but that is the way these so-called "Christian" Forums work. They are all the same lead by men who do not walk in the Spirit of the Lord, nor the Spirit of His Word.

Lord bless you......
Goodbye......

--- End quote ---
Did you read the forum rules? We don't ban people for arrogance. We ban people for spamming and causing disruption to conversation, but since you aren't capable of having a conversation with anyone (as you have demonstrated thus far), I guess there really is not reason for you to have come here. The problem is that if anyone questions the holy, sacred Cal, they are automatically not men who "walk in the Spirit of the Lord."

In short, Cal approach is: "If you question or disagree with me, you're not a Christian!"

That is the EXACT same attitude I see in false prophets, and all those who worship them. I am not being facetious in any manner by saying that. I mean, that is precisely what they do, almost word-for-word, and then end it by saying "God bless," which he does not mean at all (i.e. it's a lie), it's just a pretentious phrase he uses to make himself look righteous and faithful on the outside.

If he keeps his word and leaves, that's fine by me because this is starting to waste my time.

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