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General Category => Evangelism => Topic started by: Kenneth Winslow on November 28, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
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Tim and I, along with two other guys, will be preaching outside of a club tonight that is doing a Planned Parenthood fundraiser.
My intent, in addition to preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, is to preach against feminism, witchcraft, Satanism and child sacrifice to devils.
Please pray that the Lord would use us to be a stumbling block in front of this wickedness. And that any person that is on the fence about giving money to this abomination would think twice. I don't know if we will be confronted or simply ignored, but either way these our souls that the Lord commands to repent and put their faith in Jesus Christ, and Lord willing that message will be heard by these people loud and clear.
I plan on having video up on YouTube within the next few days.
(This post might be better suited in the Evangelism category?)
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How did it go
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Yes, I was just wondering how it went as well. Will you post a video?
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Yes, things went well. They definitely did not ignore us. I will hopefully get the video posted sometime next week. I already have three preaching event scheduled this weekend.
They did call the police on us, but they never stopped us from preaching. They were simply responding to the complaint and hung around for a while.
There was a young man that approached, us as we were getting ready to leave, who had some serious mental problems and/or substance abuse problems, but we were able to bless him with bus fare, a little something to eat and most importantly Tim prayed for him. His name is Antonio and he seemed very receptive. That was kind of a nice ending to the evening.
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We can hope someone heard something that will stick with them and bear fruit soon.
I enjoy watching your videos and will look for this one.
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Giving people bus fare and food--good thing they called the police, that sounds dangerous.
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Giving people bus fare and food--good thing they called the police, that sounds dangerous.
Actually Antonio showed up at the last minute. He wasn't a part of the crowd. At first we thought the people in the bar may have hired him to come do something to us, (that has happened before) however, after a few minutes he seemed to be sincere, as near as we could tell.
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It just reminds me of the book of Acts where men were hired to drum up trouble.
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
-Ecc 1:9
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To be honest this is the first time I've ever given someone money while I'm preaching. This guy needed $0.75 for the bus to get to the shelter so I ended up giving him a dollar.
Tim oftentimes brings small bags of chips and other snacks to hand out to the homeless folks and then he asks to pray with them.
If you decide to watch the video, when I post it, I think you will be intrigued by the situation.
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Here is part one of this preach.
I am processing part 2 right now.
There were there will probably be four parts total.
"After enjoying dinner together Jake, Joe, Tim and myself went to the Basement East nightclub where they were having a fundraiser for Planned Parenthood. They were featuring cover bands of old tired 1980s female Rock & Roll stars.
As typical, the people called the police. They told the police that they were offended by our anti-abortion signs depicting aborted babies. What Hippocrates! They didn't like the fact that we were showing them pictures of what they were supporting? Unbelievable!
Nevertheless, we had a great time preaching the law of God, rebuking their sinful choices and also telling them the way that they could be saved from their sin and death and Hell.
As we were getting ready to leave for the evening we were approached by a young man that had some serious mental and/or substance abuse problems. His name is Antonio. If you are a Christian please pray for him."
https://youtu.be/qEs7eum_iww
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Here is part #2:
https://youtu.be/HM964FMOp0I
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Here is part #3:
https://youtu.be/IG2RSMO_FfI
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Are the videos downloadable? I can't really stream.
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That atheist had no clue what he was talking about. (No marvel, right?)
Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.
-Num 5:21-22
If the woman was caught in fornication/adultery, or rather, she was caught, meaning that there was evidence against her, as perhaps her husband may have known about it, but there was no direct eye witness and no one had caught her in the act (v13) and she lied about it, this was a method to determine if she lied. If she was innocent, and spoke the truth, then no harm would come to her, but if she lied before God, the curse of rotting thighs, which would leave a personal unable to walk, and a swelling belly, which, outside of pregnancy, is dangerous to one's health, especially if this is referring to a particular illness God is cursing her with, and it certain is an outward shame to a woman, which causes her great embarrassment. Either way, she was to say "Amen," that is, "Truly" or "This is the truth" to whichever punishment or blessing she received from the Lord.
There is nothing even remotely close to abortion talked about in this passage. The "belly swelling" is not pregnancy; she is not yet with child. This is proven by verse 28:
And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
-Num 5:28
Meaning, she would conceive afterwards, being blessed by God in cleanness.
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Who was this other guy who was with you Kenneth? (guy in yellow jacket) I was having a hard time listening to him only because he seemed to not know what he wanted to say a lot of times, and he was half-quoting Scripture, almost like he was used to another bible version. Maybe I just don't understand because I wasn't out there with you.
He said something that I don't think is correct. He said that witches would be burned in the Old Testament; I think that was around the 25-26 min mark... let me get the link for the specific time: https://youtu.be/HM964FMOp0I?t=1545 (https://youtu.be/HM964FMOp0I?t=1545)
Exodus 22 tells us that God commanded Israel to not suffer any witch to live in their society, but public execution was by stoning them to death; they did not burn people alive, rather, that was the Catholic Church who did that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall any instance where God commanded Israel to burn people, unless they were already dead.
Giving those wicked people Old Testament commandments for Jewish government is probably convoluting the situation (i.e. making it difficult and complex to understand). Rather, he should have gone to Gal 5, which is much more simple:
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
-Gal 5:19-21
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The guy preaching in part 3... I really like him. He did exactly what I would have done, going to Romans 1 and start reading. He was simple to understand, calm, and reasonable, and I can guarantee they hated him a lot.
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He said something that I don't think is correct. He said that witches would be burned in the Old Testament; I think that was around the 25-26 min mark... let me get the link for the specific time: https://youtu.be/HM964FMOp0I?t=1545 (https://youtu.be/HM964FMOp0I?t=1545)
Exodus 22 tells us that God commanded Israel to not suffer any witch to live in their society, but public execution was by stoning them to death; they did not burn people alive, rather, that was the Catholic Church who did that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall any instance where God commanded Israel to burn people, unless they were already dead.
Leviticus 20 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.
Leviticus 21 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.
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I wrote the last one quickly because on a Friday I have to be out of my room at work before a certain time so didn't get the chance to put the other interesting bits in.
Over the years I have had to go back a few times to double check if God had made a declaration that there were certain people who must be burned.
There is also these other instances
Numbers 11 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
1 And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the Lord burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp. 2 And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the Lord, the fire was quenched. 3 And he called the name of the place Taberah: because the fire of the Lord burnt among them.
and from Revelation
Revelation 11 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
interesting stuff. :)
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My apologies; I did not know that was the case. I need to study more carefully. I'm glad I was corrected on that, and the man in the yellow jacket was correct and taught me something. It's just one more reason to fear God.
Well... wait a second... what about witches? I don't think any of those verses made mention of the punishment of witches. So... was he still incorrect? I mean, I was wrong in my statement that no one was burned with fire, but if it doesn't mention witches specifically, then the guy in the yellow jacket was still wrong. Anyone else know anything about that?
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Are the videos downloadable? I can't really stream.
Honestly, I don't know.
Maybe you have to pay for a membership to YouTube to download a video.
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That atheist had no clue what he was talking about. (No marvel, right?)
I'm glad this man brought up this "example of abortion" in the Bible.
I what not prepared to address this passage of scripture off-the-cuff, which is why I made the effort to look it up on the spot and read through it. (Doing that is a difficult in that situation, but if I'm not preaching or handing out tracts I've got not much else to do.)
Now I am prepared if it comes up again.
To God be the glory.
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That atheist had no clue what he was talking about. (No marvel, right?)
Actually, I'm glad he raised that objection.
It gave me the opportunity to look up the scripture and take somewhat of a close look at it. As you can tell I did not have a ready answer for him. But now I do if someone tries to make such an argument in the future. All glory to God.
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The guy preaching in part 3... I really like him. He did exactly what I would have done, going to Romans 1 and start reading. He was simple to understand, calm, and reasonable, and I can guarantee they hated him a lot.
that was Jake. That night was the only time I have met him. It seems that a large part of his ministry has been preaching against abortion. The anti-abortion signs were his. He definitely had a good grasp on what he was preaching about. He would do well in any environment where people might be able to stand around and listen.
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Who was this other guy who was with you Kenneth? (guy in yellow jacket) I was having a hard time listening to him only because he seemed to not know what he wanted to say a lot of times, and he was half-quoting Scripture, almost like he was used to another bible version.
That was Tim. He's the one I preach with 90% of the time or more. He was one of the guys I preached with the first time I went out on the street with other people.
Usually he gets on a good flow with a clear message. Sometimes he can get flustered, like we all can, in a tense or awkward situation. And sometimes he has trouble putting clear line of thought together. I do the same thing sometimes, especially when I get tired. Sometimes I'll start preaching one thing and then I'm not sure where I want to go with it or if I want to follow it to the conclusion.
I know he only intends on using the King James Bible, as I do. Sometimes I catch myself quoting from a new age verse out of old habit. If you ever hear me doing that please point it out. I think I'm doing pretty good at getting those corrupt Bible verses replaced but the real thing.
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I've done that same thing. I still occasionally say "gather together" instead of "assemble," which is the effect church buildings had on me growing up; I keep working on that.
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Are the videos downloadable? I can't really stream.
Honestly, I don't know.
Maybe you have to pay for a membership to YouTube to download a video.
I am a Linux user at home and use a program called youtube-dl. I never watch material directly from the Youtube site, I always download it first and then watch it using a normal media player and that way you are not interrupted by adverts and you have your own copy of the file for later reference. I just had a check and youtube-dl is available for Windows too.
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
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My apologies; I did not know that was the case. I need to study more carefully. I'm glad I was corrected on that, and the man in the yellow jacket was correct and taught me something. It's just one more reason to fear God.
Well... wait a second... what about witches? I don't think any of those verses made mention of the punishment of witches. So... was he still incorrect? I mean, I was wrong in my statement that no one was burned with fire, but if it doesn't mention witches specifically, then the guy in the yellow jacket was still wrong. Anyone else know anything about that?
Leviticus 20 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
Deuteronomy 13 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 but thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deuteronomy 17 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 and hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 and it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Overall it doesn't look like it was permissible to burn a witch to death but rather they were to be stoned. In Exodus it states that a witch must not be allowed to live but it doesn't exactly specify by what means they must be put to death.
Exodus 22 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
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Okay, so I was correct on that point. Got it. However, as Kenneth said, the other guy was simply a bit flustered in the heat of the moment. That's perfectly understandable; I don't always have my composure either when my mind goes off track, and it's easy for that to happen people start doing and saying wicked things right in front of you.
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Okay, so I was correct on that point. Got it. However, as Kenneth said, the other guy was simply a bit flustered in the heat of the moment. That's perfectly understandable; I don't always have my composure either when my mind goes off track, and it's easy for that to happen people start doing and saying wicked things right in front of you.
That certainly happens to me. People can talk quicker than I can think and it is difficult anyway to think while someone is talking at you. Hence a lot of the people I'm in contact with I offer to present the details via email and they can respond likewise. Presentation of materials in writing is the downfall of those who oppose themselves because they rely on being bullish to push their own beliefs and talk over the top and drown out what they don't want to hear or be challenged about. It is good that tracts are being handed out, once they are home the opposers can shout and scoff at a piece of paper all they like. Seeds are sown.
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RealPlayer is also free software you can download that will allow you to download videos from YouTube and play them back. That's the one I use.
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In case I didn't say it aloud Kenneth, I would pray that our Lord Jesus Christ bless each one of you standing out there, specifically that all your needs would be met, and that you would see some of the results of your preaching for the purpose edification; whether it be through converted souls, or through the judgment of the unrighteous, that your spirits would be lifted in the face of the opposition of reprobates. As Paul told the church in Rome:
I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.
-Romans 1:8
You all don't have to be out there; you choose to be out there because you care about their souls. I would also pray that you would get more support, and that more would be called to do that work as we move closer to the final days of this world. Forgive me if my personal criticisms were discouraging in any way.
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Chris said, "Forgive me if my personal criticisms were discouraging in any way."
No, your critique is not discouraging.
I appreciate your input.