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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Crazy Lady Plays Victim to Fake Being Christian

« on: March 15, 2024, 07:23:47 AM »

Just to show you what I mean concerning how difficult it would be to talk to this woman, let's take a closer look at something she said:

There are teams of people who are working in concert to get me to VOLUNTARILY hand myself over to them and their serpents laying in wait to further exploit me for their ill gotten gain so when I do attempt to share the truth about what is happening to me and has been since 2003 caused by the federal government, regular people who have never worked for the government, i.e. central intelligence agency in any capacity tend to distance themselves from people like me

She starts off saying that other people are reading these emails, and that, without any evidence whatsoever, claims there are TEAMS of people monitoring her in particular. Before I go any further, explain to me why the government would waste THAT many resources... we're talking about TEAMS of professionals, which would equate to MILLIONS of dollars per year just in salaries, let alone equipment and supplies... for what? To watch some crazy lady in her apartment? I mean, the government's wasteful, don't misunderstand, but... seriously? Why not just kill her, or kidnap her, bring her into a cell, and then you don't have to pay so many people to monitor her? Why do they need her to "VOLUNTARILY" join them? Does she think she's a super secret vital asset? Ha ha ha!!

Then she goes from literally talking about the teams, to... metaphorically talking about their "serpents." Wait, if the teams are "laying in wait" to "exploit" her... is she saying they have LITERAL snakes? If she was speaking metaphorically, it would have made sense to say "There are teams of people... and those serpents are waiting to exploit me" -- but that's not what she said. She said there are teams of people monitoring her, and "their serpents" (i.e. they have snakes) in key locations to ambush her, and those snakes have been waiting to get her for a grand total of 21 years now, even though she has miraculously, by the guiding hand of Jesus Christ, managed to evade them in the labyrinth she calls her "apartment" and the infinite staircases she calls a "grocery store."

Hmm.

Oh, and it's not just the CIA. It's the "federal government" too.

Because... the CIA is not part of the federal government?

But it's not just them, it's also people who've "NEVER worked for the government."

That's a neat trick. How does that work? If the federal government is enlisting a citizen to do the bidding of the federal government, then that means they work for the federal government, whether they have a badge or not. How do the feds get people to work for them without working for them?

Every time I think I have heard the wildest email, someone else swoops in to claim 1st place.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Crazy Lady Plays Victim to Fake Being Christian

« on: March 15, 2024, 07:03:49 AM »

This woman's name is Diana. I've had enough of her, to the point I wanted to show you guys what I'm dealing with so you understand why I have preached against what I call "conspiracy ministries," which are people who call themselves "preachers" who just have podcasts talking about conspiracies, and rarely (if ever) actually preach the Gospel of Christ. There's tons of them out there because they gain attention and money more quickly than preaching Christ.

I have around 70 email exchanges with this woman going back to 2017... so 7 years now. I'm just going to show you a couple of her letters so you get an idea, and I had to censor names because she thought it relevant to send me the full names of people I have never met, nor do I know what she's talking about (i.e. that is typically a sign of a self-center person, who is not aware of perspectives outside of her own):
DIANA FROM WI (2023)
Im disabled with limited abilities after a severe brain injury at work in 2019 that causes me difficulty in simple tasks which is why Im now making sure you got the money order I sent. I cant function as I did prior to 2018 due to multiple injuries & many blows to my head after being kidnapped, beaten bloody, raped, forcibly drugged left for dead & almost murdered for exercising my constitutional rights (freedom of speech) & religious right to seperate myself from those who would seek to do me harm. I was not a harm to others or myself but only seeking daily communion with Jesus Christ to be sanctified. I was doing that even before your teaching on the sanctification process. Thanks to Jesus Christ I made it out of all that abuse & near death experience alive but not without multiple injuries.
It was something you said in one of your teachings I was listening to that prompted me to confirm the funds sent.
 If I could have called you quickly to ensure the funds got to its destination I would have. To add to the daunting existence I now live, for decades Ive been a consistent victim of abuse & theft in which my identity is constantly stolen as well as the few resources God gives me to survive. If the money order was stolen then I would do my best to replace it to fulfill God’s order. Unfortunately, just as many people who hate you in this world, I have probably more who hate me for leaving the Roman Catholic church & from continuing to live that sinful pagan lifestyle with the world I was born into. If they could sabotage anything good, the wicked stalking me always do. I have a husband L****** E****** but after a decade he still isnt allowed to be with me until I surrender to the witch coven masquerading as a charitable group & the angels of light they conned everyone to believe they are. Charity & attempted homicide should never be in the same sentence when trying to do something “good” for another. You dont involuntarily commit a person to a mental hospital based on wicked lies & violating that persons privacy, constitutional rights, human rights & then attempt to kill them in the process. And STILL expect them to go along with those criminals in this corrupt government who did that to them? God says I shall never. Therefore my husband & I shall remain apart as a result until he gets right with Jesus Christ to see the error of the entire illegal operation. I wont hold my breath.
That was from last year. I'm not going to show you guys the back and forth conversation I have with her recently because it's hard to follow, but keep in mind that her strange letter has nothing to do with her alleged "brain injury" (which I'm not sure I actually believe) because she was writing this same kind of garbage BEFORE 2019, so I'm presuming the alleged "brain injury" only worsened the problem, if that even exists. The following is from one of the first letters I ever received from her back in 2017, and I'll show you the whole exchange of just this first series of emails:
DIANA FROM WI (2017) - (I think she had her all-caps lock on and didn't realize it)
PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. I WILL WAIT TO MEET ALL MY BRETHREN IN HEAVEN NOW THAT THE agents of satan HAVE INFILTRATED EVERY ASPECT OF A HUMAN BEINGS EXISTENCE TO PUSH AND PROMOTE THE satanic AGENDA of EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING GOES. WHATEVER I VIEW, READ, ETC. IS NO LONGER SAFE WHEN THEY MANIPULATE THE VIEW AND AUDIO FOR MIND CONTROL PURPOSES. NO ONE IS SAFE FROM THIS GROUP OF satanic slime WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENT.
WHEN I GET TO HEAVEN I WILL KNOW WHO WAS REAL OR NOT IN THESE LAST DAYS & FOR THE DAYS OF THE GREAT DECEPTION IS AT HAND.
Okay.
I know your probably busier than ever now that the agents of satan are on the war path to invade everyone I communicate with to turn every Christian who has a website or ministry into a full blown worker of iniquity serving the beast. I have a question to ask you since you do all your research online from what I gather in your videos and wanted to know what search engine do you use? The one I used, called duck duck go kept putting smut up that had nothing to do with what I typed. So then I attempted to look for a Christian filtered search engine and that was just as bad. I do know that the server I use is being operated by some real sick depraved minded perverts who sit on their duffs all day monitoring all my online activity so they maybe the culprit but I wanted to reach out to you and ask anyway in the event there is a way to limit the garbage forced on me online and to hopefully pull up what I'm actually typing. Thanks. Praying for you all.
Based on what the letters you've written me so far, I'm not really comfortable answering questions for you yet. I wrote this only so that you wouldn't think I'm ignoring you, or not reading your letters, otherwise, I would have said nothing.
Thank you. I want you to know that your not the only one who reads any of what I communicate. There are teams of people who are working in concert to get me to VOLUNTARILY hand myself over to them and their serpents laying in wait to further exploit me for their ill gotten gain so when I do attempt to share the truth about what is happening to me and has been since 2003 caused by the federal government, regular people who have never worked for the government, i.e. central intelligence agency in any capacity tend to distance themselves from people like me. Its always easier for people to say write me off as crazy than to actually entertain the thought that what I have typed is true or accept the things I share as truth. Especially if someone like yourself has never been chosen by them to force you to perform for them in whatever way they program you to perform. I have had the misfortune since childhood and my mother was an MK Ultra. Look that up. I could never verify or confirm that my sisters have also been used for mind control but since they were paid to lure me to controlled environments where I was drugged in public tells me that they are. I know they were not the "cameraman" who caught the footage that went viral to publicly crucify me and if you have seen what I speak of, I'm unable to view that due to the total control they have over my life including all communications. I can't even see that footage or most things I look up online because they block everything I research that they do not want me to find and force me to view what they want me to see that has nothing to do with the initial search. When I finally was able to have a meeting with the elders of the Westboro Baptist church, I was honest with them as my brother's in Christ. And I also shared with R****** P***** who is an attorney the facts about a crime that was committed in 1985 when my exhusband who was my boyfriend at the time murdered an innocent black man in a fit of rage. Thanks to this takeover of my life they have sabotaged all my attempts to report the matter but I told Mrs. P*****-R**** face to face so she knew I wasn't lying because I wasn't sure if I was going to live long enough to finally report it and since I hired the P***** C****** to create my will, I felt she was trustworthy to share that information since it was being recorded. And of course nothing was done about that information other than it was communicated to Mrs. R**** at the law office before I die. And let me tell you, the team Kansas almost succeeded and I barely made it out of there alive and to move in with my eldest child and her husband. I still can't even speak of some of the things they did to me in Kansas. That is why I usually attempt to have face to face meetings with people so they can look into my eyes and know that I'm not lying. It is difficult for anyone to believe a repeatedly traumatized victim when there are teams of so called "professionals" and the military industrial complex is using all technology against you as their PROJECT (cash cow) while remote viewing your daily behavior to scheme and orchestrate ways to modify your behavior. I do not leave my daughter's place because there are people assigned to follow me and they have full immunity to do whatever they want to me. I have been abused in all forms systematically and I was even sexually abused while at Liberty Fellowship church where someone would think they would be totally safe but for some reason not me. These people do the most heinous crimes and they are allowed to get away with it as they attempt to provoke me to anger that would then give them cause to arrest me and involuntarily commit me to a mental hospital. But God won't allow that to happen. So they can call me a paranoid schizo all they want, I know why I limit my appearances in public due to repeated abuses that I have endured since I was forced to become homeless in December 2011. Even a trip to the grocery store becomes a circus of insanity in which complete psychotic strangers attempt to do the most ungodly things to me as I'm trying to mind my own business and get what I want and get out of there. I never asked for this to happen to my life. I was a business owner and home owner responsible to care for my four children as a single mother since my ex husband decided to pull the rug out from under me, abandoned our home  and shacked up with a teenage girl. While he refused to obey God and stop committing domestic violence, adultery, and countless other abuses against me my pastor offered to help him save his marriage but he didn't want the pastor to help him in that way, he wanted my pastor to stop helping me survive so he could fulfill his dream to finally destroy me and steal my children from me. He told me in 1997 that was what he was going to do and by the assistance of these WONDERFUL criminals in this conspiracy launched against me, he got his dream come true. Everyone is on a need to know basis in this entire faux operation and my ex husband has used the "mental illness" card as ammo throughout our marriage to force me to get under his total control to accept his sexual liaisons that I was witnessed to while he mistreated me, abused me, and almost killed me in my sleep more than once. I had to fight him off and I was too embarrassed to report it to the police because I didn't want my children to be woken up and disturbed to witness what happens as the police intervene in domestic violence calls. I took whatever abuse he dished out to protect my children and he usually would harm me while they were asleep. He is a highly trained assassin and killed many for the government without ever serving one day in prison for it. I felt compelled to share this because it is unfair that I have been viciously maligned, defamed and blacklisted to the point that I have by these individuals who conveniently leave out the truth. Mind you I kept all of this to myself for years and so the thought of showing up to some ridiculous party among strangers who don't even know me or what I have been through nor do they care, is out of the question. ITS ALL ABOUT THEM not me.
I'm am mildly aware of the existence of MK Ultra and sleeper cells. I don't know what you want me to say to all this.
END OF DISCUSSION
I have A LOT more of these letters, and she has convinced herself that we have some sort of bond of friendship over the years, even though I haven't responded much to her at all because I have no idea what I was supposed to say to this. (And I've had to block her email twice... meaning that I have likely received more letters from her, but never got them because I had her blocked.) The point is that you will notice a lot of "me me me" "my my my" "I I I" selfish language, that's based on her being a constant victim.

Any time I would call her out on her garbage, she immediately plays the victim and virtue signals. I cannot find one thing in any of her letters that reflects a heart of repentance for the remission of sins. More recently, she indicated that she had sent me a donation, and that's when I knew I had to put a stop to this immediately, so I directly told her that I do not believe she is a Christian, and her email response to me was partially speaking to "CIA agents," telling them that they would not be able to fool her.

She's not the only person over the years to write to me like this, and I'm sharing this with you all so you understand why "conspiracy ministries" are so detrimental. As I've said before, I am not arguing that there are no conspiracies, nor am I saying we cannot talk about them, but people like Diana put their faith and hope in conspiracies, not in Jesus Christ.

If anyone wants to try and convince me in the comments below that this woman has repentance and faith in Christ, I'll listen to you, but I highly doubt you're going to be able to convince me. If I had to guess, I'd bet she's on psychotropics, and if any of you have gone through my series of teaching exposing the pseudo-science of psychology, you will probably see much bigger problems at hand.

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) The Biblical Understanding of Love p2

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Corruptions of Christianity: Seventh-day Adventism p24

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« on: December 31, 2023, 08:08:42 PM »

... That was a lie, even though he just lied about his lies by saying, "Who is lying here, not I." I don't believe this man ever came to repentance of his sin, and I think Kenneth hit the nail on the head, namely, that Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin.

I have been thinking about this as well and I can say a little confused when you said. When you said, "Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin." Do you mean Cal doesn't feel ashamed nor have any grief and Godly Sorrow for his sins and actions? He believes that he is the victim of others' sins but not his own. That would certainly explain his behavior here. Is this what you meant?

I was living in the homosexual lifestyle for many years, and 46 years ago, the Lord revealed His truth to me, and brought conviction of my sinful life, and that it was a lie.
Kenneth's confusion was that it seemed to be that he said his lifestyle was a lie, but not that his sin was condemned. As I pointed out earlier, condemnation and conviction mean the same thing, albeit, they are most often used in separate contexts; typically, as far as I understand it, condemnation being projected while conviction is aimed inward.

Here are just some of the things he stated after he said that he was given "repentance" by God:

I... lived a secret life in the gay lifestyle.
I was sexually, emotionally, and physically abused by my mother
I was rejected by her
my father was not there for me also.
She hated me
I was sexually abused
I grew up in so much confusion, pain, and suffered endless depressions
I never had real friends in school
due to the abuses, I also tired to commit suicide at the age of 14

I could go on. This was just in his first post, which turned out to be copy-pasted from his blog.

Where exactly is HIS sin? These are justifications or qualifiers for victimhood. He's simply playing the victim, which means the sins are everyone else's, not his own. How can he have been given repentance of HIS sin, when all he does is blame everyone else?

Kenneth has seen this many times with people, in which they try to act like they are of Christ, but they never came to repentance of THEIR OWN sin. If he has any sin, or acknowledges any sin, it's only at the fault of others around him. When responding to Kenneth, in which he only repeated himself, he added another line about condemnation and conviction being opposites, when they are, in fact, the same thing conceptually. Then I called him out on that, and he essentially lost his temperance pretty quickly (i.e. he's not longsuffering).

These are good lessons for the church to learn the difference between godly sorrow and worldly sorrow, and to learn the patterns of people who try to trick us into thinking they are contrite. We know what it was like to be saved, we know what it was like to come to repentance, and we know that we blamed no one but ourselves when that time came.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« on: December 30, 2023, 03:39:05 PM »

He only asked rhetorical questions. We asked him questions for information. There is a huge difference.

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General Discussion / Re: Disciples of Jesus Christ joining the Military.....is it the Lord's Will....No!

« on: December 30, 2023, 12:20:13 PM »

Oooo... he can keyword search "mock."

I can do that too:

And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.
-1Ki 18:27

He's already lied more than once about leaving, and he keeps coming back. He wants to be banned so he can go on his blog and say that he was banned. He wants that justification. Okay, I'll give it him.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« on: December 30, 2023, 11:46:39 AM »

For everyone else, Caleb pointed out that this guy had a blog. I didn't realize that before, and I was doing a bit of search online for some of the things he was posting, but I couldn't find any direct matches through multiple search engines. His posts were a bit stuffy, and it didn't seem like he wrote it for the purpose this forum. It appeared to be copy/pasted, but because I couldn't find a direct quote, even after I tried a few of them on different search engines, I just let it go.

However, his introduction was a copy-paste of his blog:
https://comeseegoodnessofthelord.wordpress.com/2020/06/29/example-post-3/

Furthermore, his other post is another copy-paste of his blog:
https://comeseegoodnessofthelord.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/disciples-of-jesus-christ-joining-the-military-is-like-adding-lemon-juice-to-milk-it-just-doesnt-mix/comment-page-1/

This is why he was angry that we critiqued and questioned him. He is here for ONE REASON ONLY: To advertise his useless blog that no one reads.

In fact, as I looked through more of his site, I found where he has attempted this with other people too. He goes around trying to gain himself more attention. So when he said:
"I'm looking for true Spiritual fellowship with other like minded Disciples of Jesus Christ."

... That was a lie, even though he just lied about his lies by saying, "Who is lying here, not I." I don't believe this man ever came to repentance of his sin, and I think Kenneth hit the nail on the head, namely, that Cal thinks he is the victim of other peoples' sin.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« on: December 30, 2023, 11:40:19 AM »

Okay, so then leave. Why are you still here? Go back to your blog which no one hardly ever reads and whine to whoever you think will listen. If you ever want to answer my inquiry, feel free to come back and answer it. I pray the Lord Jesus Christ will give you and your household as much mercy as He has give me and mine. Have a great day.

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General Discussion / Re: Disciples of Jesus Christ joining the Military.....is it the Lord's Will....No!

« on: December 30, 2023, 11:37:24 AM »

I will be adding this "CLE" ministry to my Blog writings warning the sheep to stay away from ALL cult Forum's. And the teachings of Christopher JE Johnson and pointing out why.

Oh no! Whatever will I do? No one's ever said anything bad about me before!


Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
-Mat 5:11

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General Discussion / Re: Disciples of Jesus Christ joining the Military.....is it the Lord's Will....No!

« on: December 30, 2023, 09:39:42 AM »

Thank you for your response.
This informs me exactly who and what you believe.
There is no "conspiracy" nonsense in my article. It's all based on truth and facts which is founded upon the Lord's Word. We are not to be deceived by the wicked devices of fallen men.
I know I will be "banned" but that is the way these so-called "Christian" Forums work. They are all the same lead by men who do not walk in the Spirit of the Lord, nor the Spirit of His Word.

Lord bless you......
Goodbye......

Did you read the forum rules? We don't ban people for arrogance. We ban people for spamming and causing disruption to conversation, but since you aren't capable of having a conversation with anyone (as you have demonstrated thus far), I guess there really is not reason for you to have come here. The problem is that if anyone questions the holy, sacred Cal, they are automatically not men who "walk in the Spirit of the Lord."

In short, Cal approach is: "If you question or disagree with me, you're not a Christian!"

That is the EXACT same attitude I see in false prophets, and all those who worship them. I am not being facetious in any manner by saying that. I mean, that is precisely what they do, almost word-for-word, and then end it by saying "God bless," which he does not mean at all (i.e. it's a lie), it's just a pretentious phrase he uses to make himself look righteous and faithful on the outside.

If he keeps his word and leaves, that's fine by me because this is starting to waste my time.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« on: December 30, 2023, 09:28:05 AM »

I answered with the truth, there was no contradiction.
Oh. Okay. That tells me a lot about you; much more than anything else you've said so far.

The Lord's Word is very explanatory which I used to explain.
Indeed, because God's Word has words and it's godly.

You seem not to like me using Scripture which supports my testimony.
You seem to use a lot of strawman arguments and red herrings when you're held accountable to what you say.

The Love of God in His Mercy brought Holy Spirit conviction, which revealed my guilt of my sins, which means in His Grace, without condemnation, He sent the Holy Spirit to bring about Salvation.
You just used the same contradiction after telling me there was no contradiction, and did not bother to explain yourself. I can't have a conversation with people like that.
 
Who brought condemnation to the guilty? The Pharisees, the self-righteous.
No, the Word of God brought condemnation to the guilty. Jesus' purpose in coming to this world the first time was not to condemn the world because the written Word already does that. However, that does not mean that Jesus never condemned anyone; specifically, the Pharisees that you just mentioned. In fact, if Jesus hadn't condemned them, you would not know to talk about them in that way. To say that it was the "self-righteous Pharisees" alone that brought condemnation is ignorance of the Scripture. They condemned others while being hypocrites, which is why Jesus condemned them:
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
-Mat 23:25

I'm starting to wonder if you just ignored the definitions of the terms, and instead you keep using the terms under your own definition without telling us what you think those terms mean. Part of the reason I suspect this is because you have not once said anything about the fact that 'conviction' and 'condemnation' mean the same thing.

I know you don't want to hear any of this, and don't misunderstand; I'm doing this for others reading this because let's be straight-forward: you didn't come here to learn anything or fellowship with us. You came here to preach to us what you want us to believe; that's pretty clear based on what I have seen from you so far (especially in your other post), which means you have no intention of taking in any understanding from anyone else but yourself. I can't have a conversation with people like that.

Did Jesus condemn Mary Magdalene? Did Jesus condemn the man with the Legion of Demons? Did Jesus Condemn Paul for killing His Followers? He came with Mercy, in His Love He came to those who could not change themselves.
You still have not addressed the contradiction that I pointed out. No one here is arguing that you were condemned by Jesus when you claim you were saved. These questions you just posed are strawman arguments because you either refuse addressing what I said, or you don't understand what I said.

So yes, it was the Love of God in His Mercy to bring about conviction of my sins, it was His Goodness that lead me to Repentance.  That is all non-contradictory.
You still haven't answered anything yet. You're just repeating what you previously said to make it look like you answered my inquiry. In my experience, men who repeat themselves instead of answering or expounding on the question asked are dishonest men who end up as politicians. I hope that's not you, but you haven't given me any reason to believe otherwise yet.

The Lord's Word stands true, and so do I stand true.  He came, He convicted, I confessed, I ask forgiveness, He forgave, then I was cleansed, and sealed by His Holy Spirit. That is pretty much the Gospel.  No contradictions with the work of God within a sinner's soul.
That's just cotton candy fluff. You've trained yourself well over the years to repeat the lines you think others expect you to say, but I can't have a conversation with a broken record.

Thank you I've answered the questions, no "avoiding here", I reject your accusation.
In your mind, you declared it, so therefore, it is true by default. This is very similar phrasing I have seen when I talk to people who worship false prophets. I'm not saying you're one of those, but what you say is strikingly similar to them.
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
-1Co 10:12

Yes, I did add the other info, but not to "drown out so nobody notices that I did not answer it".
Well, you're still doing it... soooo... 

It seems you are trying to manipulate the situation into something it is not.
Pot, meet kettle.

The Lord states we are to provide all things honest to all,
Correct... and here comes the accusation to justify himself...

it seems you are the one who struggles with the truth according to the Lord's Word and the testimonies written within it.
And there it is. That's the man who does not judge himself. Because I dared to question the holy, sacred Cal, and point out where there was a contradiction in what he said, I have now received the accusation that I struggled to understand ANY AND ALL of Scripture.

For anyone else reading this, when you see this sort of thing, it's childishness. It's the same fussy attitude children have when they are told something they don't like, and so they react by saying "I know you are but what am I?" The problem is that Cal knows that if he said that, he would look childish, so he says it behind a bunch of words that he thinks makes him look sophisticated. This is what is meant when Paul said "by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple" in Romans 16:18.

The reason he is doing this is simply because, if he were to address the question I asked him, it would shake the foundation of what he has believed about his alleged salvation testimony for decades. I wasn't even trying to do that; I just wanted to understand why he used two words back to back, which mean the same thing, but declared opposite things about them. That's all I wanted to know, but now it has turned into this, which means there is a MUCH deeper philosophical problem in Cal's belief system. And now, it has turned into something so serious for him, he will condemn others to save himself from having to address it.

Lord bless you
And he ends his letter with pretense that he thinks will make him sound "holy." The passive aggressive attitude he has is a form of what the Bible calls "murmuring."
Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
-Phil 2:14

Cal, have you listened to anything I teach? Why did you come here? Because, after this post, it doesn't sound at all like you want to have any fellowship with us, and it certainly doesn't sound like you have much like-mindedness with us.
Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
-Phil 2:2

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings to all....

« on: December 29, 2023, 11:28:58 PM »

Yes, the Lord came in His Mercy, and opened my ears to hear, and eyes to see, that homosexuality was a sin, which I did not believe before.  So He came and informed me it was a sin, and that I was not "born" gay.  I was shocked at the reality that it was sin, and that I believed in the lies. Due to the Convicting Power of the Holy Spirit I knew it was true, I was guilty, which lead me to cry out to Him for forgiveness, weeping realizing He was revealing the truth to me, because I did not believe the truth prior, my aunt would inform me of this years prior, but I did not believe her. I was deceived due to unbelief. I was involved with that life without knowing what it was, starting at the age of 7 or 8.  But that was due to my mother's abuses against me at such an early age, I was not protected by them, which lead me into a life of perversity, identity crisis desiring to be a girl, so she would love me. My mother was in out of lesbianism most of her life into her 50's.

Does this help you?

The story you just told me makes sense, and I'm not arguing against what you experienced, but you did not answer my inquiry. I pointed out to you that you used two contradictory statements, and you did not answer to that contradiction. If you had told me that you used one of the terms in error, then I would have understood that because we all make mistakes from time to time, but you didn't even bother to correct yourself when I pointed out to you the contradiction which I demonstrated. Telling me about your mom being a lesbian doesn't explain why you used contradictory phrases in the same sentence, as I pointed out here:
https://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1810.msg14430#msg14430

It seems like you're just avoiding what I said, and talking about a lot of other things to drown it out, so nobody notices that you didn't answer it.