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Evangelism / People who are receptive to Repentance

« on: June 21, 2021, 04:23:14 PM »

So theres a noticeable difference in people that are receptive to the doctrine of repentance. The churchgoers that arnt usually get mad or just stop talking to you but it usually makes since to the people that are receptive to it. When I first understood what repentance was I told alot of people about it and usually it doesnt make any since to them at all or they just straight up tell you it makes total since. However theyre are rare circumstances where people are so caught up in the respect of people that have telling them for decades that repentance means to turn that even though it makes since to them they still reject it. An example would be my father in law who was the first person to ever tell me theres a Godly sorrow when you get saved and i understood what he meant by that when he said that years ago not yet understanding thats what repentance is. Years later I told him that Godly sorrow is repentance and its how your able to be saved but then he starts quoting people and getting into the greek and going on about stuff.
       I dont understand these types of people. Thoughts?

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Bible Discussion / alcohol

« on: June 20, 2021, 02:56:43 PM »

Something ive flip flopped on more times i can count is whether or not alcohol is ok to drink. Ive never been addicted to alcohol but my mother died from liver failure so i understand the dangers of alcohol. Ive had the more liberal stance of alcohol that God doesnt care as long as im not a drunk and ive had the stance of alcohol is never ok no matter what. In the past i have compared alcohol to pot saying if alcohols ok pot must be too. Not true by the way pot is a whole other subject ill explain a little more why a little later. Anyway I do now believe i have a proper understanding of alcohol. I believe alcohol is intended to be a blessing.
    Deuteronomy 14 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household.
This passage is something i could never explain when i had the stance of alcohol is never ok but one passage i used to kind of counter this passage is proverbs 23 verse 29
Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?
30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.

When analyzing this passage and looking at the context of what kind of person its referring to in this case being They that tarry long at the wine and they that go seek mixed wine it sounds like when its speaking directly to this type of person perhaps an alcoholic not to look upon the wine.
I also think pot is a whole different subject because although i used to say years ago when i was addicted to pot "the bible never talks about weed man" I now would tell my past self that argument can be used against pot also as its never explained to be a blessing as i believe alcohol has been. Feel free to correct me if im wrong on anything.

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Bible Discussion / Canaanite wedding

« on: June 20, 2021, 01:53:57 PM »

I was shocked the first time i heard this. So I always wondered why Christ said he doesnt know the day he would come back well this sure explains alot. So the canaanite wedding was very different in regards of tradition. Basically the groom would present the bride with a glass of wine and if the bride refused they would leave it and they would not marry but if the bride drank they would accept the offer of marriage. Then the bride and groom would depart while the groom went to prepare a place for the bride and the father of the groom would be the one that calls the groom when its time for them to get married and the bride would literally stand ready at any time to be called even going as far as sleeping in her wedding dress. It could be a day it could be months or years but whenever the time the father of the groom decides he tells the groom go get your bride.
     That floored me when i first heard it because i just thought of it as something that no man could ever come up with on theyre own. I mean thats just brilliant and i think symbolism like this is on a whole other level. Im sure i dont need to explain Christ is the groom God the Father is the father of the groom and the bride is the church but ill put it here anyway.

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Introduce Yourself / New Member

« on: June 19, 2021, 10:53:12 PM »

Hi my name is Dylan I first found this ministry on youtube. I first came to repentance at 18 and Im 28 now and I always wondered what I went through actually was because I didnt realize repentance was the word used to describe that. I wasnt raised in church but one week I went after my wifes brother also one of my best buddies died. What I experienced that day was nothing short of supernatural I heard the preacher but its like I also heard another voice revealing my sin to me for the first time and I felt so guilty. I actually thought someone was messing with me I said to myself theres no way. I felt as though someone in the crowd knew my sin and somehow everyone knew exactly who I was. I went back the next week and I cant remember if it was that week or the week after I wept like never before and I asked God for mercy. Later down the line I had greatly backslid and I claimed not to be a believer anymore and that continued for a couple years until I went into madness and the Lord brought me to humility yet again. I went back to the church I was at before and found out it was basically a cult and left but it was kind of an out of the frying pan into the furnace scenario because I started buying into the Anderson cult. Anderson was the first one that turned me on to eternal security and was one of the main reasons I listened to him. I thought i myself was evidence of eternal security because if you can lose your salvation I definitely wouldve lost it by now. I listened to him for a while until I asked God to show me the truth. Lets just say my prayers were answered because God revealed to me Andersons doctrine is trash. Once I started realizing almost every doctrine he has is wrong I tried to go to others with the same type of doctrine till realized all of the people in the new ifb basically praise anderson as a pope and never go against his doctrine finally I typed Steven Anderson false teacher into the youtube search bar and Chris Johnsons video popped up and I think at that point he had just got done finishing the wolves in costume series. So I listened to it and I saw the repentance teaching and that made total since to me as I always wondered why alot of other people didnt have that same grief and sorrow I had when I first believed and even during my time I claimed not to believe I would lay awake at night thinking about that moment and I would know I was in rebellion because that moment to me was undeniable proof that God exists and the bible is true. Anyway ive been listening for a while and I need a community as ive been out of church for a while and mean that as both church buildings and an actual church.