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Introduce Yourself / Re: My name is Jackie

« on: August 15, 2019, 06:30:18 PM »

Hi Jackie,

I'm glad you're here, there is plenty to learn here and plenty to learn here that you most likely have never learned before.  When I came here I came here to get away from the milk that churches always preached on and went into the meat.  I've not been the same since, but in a good way.  I've almost lost contact with my family over the new things I've been learning, but God comes first regardless if my family abandons me.  Right now it's just me, my twin brother, and my twin brother's wife that gets together once a week to have church together and we listen to Christopher's teachings and discuss throughout that teaching on the things we may or may not understand to further our understanding of God's word.  Please be patient here and you'll find that this place is one of the few places that teaches the truth, regardless how offensive that truth may be.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Anderson's Hypocrisy Once Again

« on: July 12, 2019, 06:37:56 PM »

What the Bible calls a respecter of persons is what man calls appeal to authority.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (WEEKLY TEACHING) The Christian Work Ethic (2019) p1

« on: July 10, 2019, 09:13:24 PM »

Jeanne,

My dad uses the KJV, my mom used to use the NIV, not sure what she uses now.  As for their church, it's all over the place.  They don't claim to be a pentecostal church but they sure do act like one.  They claim to be non-denominational but my oldest brother thought that they were a pentecostal church.  Go figure.  I had to tell him that the church wasn't, which is sad.  I have rebuked them on using other versions because of the contradictions.  But what's really sad is that my oldest brother and dad don't agree with me but yet use the KJV.  I have one illogical family to deal with.  Curtis and I have accepted our fate with the family due to Jesus saying:  Matthew 10:34-35;  "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law," and Luke 12:51-53;  "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:  For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.  The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law."  All because they can't see the true doctrines of God's word.  But, it doesn't hurt to keep trying because I still love them and that's the best love I can give them.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (WEEKLY TEACHING) The Christian Work Ethic (2019) p1

« on: July 10, 2019, 02:14:17 AM »

Jeanne,

I did tell them that when I pointed out their pride.  I asked them, is your heart so full of pride that you can't see what's wrong.  In which they replied asking about my pride.  I told them that I pray to God to rid me of my pride because I don't want God to resist me, I want God to give me grace because I'm humble.  So I told them that God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.  But, you are quite right about my dad.  My parents have it in their head that their son can't possibly know more about scripture than themselves, which is way mom brought up her fifty years "experience" of the Bible.  I don't however know more scripture than them, but one things for sure and that's that I have more understanding than them.  It doesn't matter how many versus' a person knows, it's their understanding of those versus that gives them wisdom.  I pray that I don't end up like that due to my knowledge and my understanding of the Bible when I get that age.  I guess that's why we all need to continue in prayer about being humble and not prideful.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (WEEKLY TEACHING) The Christian Work Ethic (2019) p1

« on: July 10, 2019, 02:00:29 AM »

Chris, I left some parts out as to not make that post too long but I guess since I brought it up and you replied I'll say more.  My mom and dad kept referring to their truth and my truth.  I told them that there is only one truth, the Bible.  There is only one interpretation, not many.  I pressed toward them that there can't be multiple truths.  My mom also asked if I thought that they were going to hell because of what they believe when it comes to speaking in tongues.  This was after I asked her if she knew what I believed and she said that I think it's satanic gibberish, in which I did smirk at because that is what I think in some cases.  After she asked me if they were going to hell I told her that if you have grief and godly sorrow then no, you're not going to hell.  After I asked her another simple question.  If God can talk to Moses in a language that Moses can understand through the burning bush then why does God need to speak a different language that no one can understand through you in your church?  That shut her up the rest of the time.  Guys, I pray that God will work on my parents to get rid of their prideful hearts that's blinding them.  Fifty years of pentecostal, Kenneth Copland, Joyce Myers, Dale Begley, John Hagee, Keith Moore, and many others' brainwashing has taking over their minds and only God can change their hearts.  I also pray to God that they do repent.  I have told them several times what repentance means and they keep saying it means to turn or change.  I told them that conversion is not the same thing as repentance but that doesn't stop them to think that those two words mean the same.  I have gotten into that debate with my dad a proved to him that it doesn't mean to turn or change just by using his lexicon up against the Bible itself.  He couldn't deny it at that time.  But yet, the other night he was back to believing exactly what I showed him was wrong.  Probably because of mom.  I told them that I wanted all of us to sit down and reason these differences out that we are having but it never ends well and no one else seems to know what reason is.  All I can do is ask God to allow me to be humble and give me guidance, wisdom, and understanding every time I get the chance to rebuke them.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (WEEKLY TEACHING) The Christian Work Ethic (2019) p1

« on: July 09, 2019, 09:09:44 PM »

I feel the same way Kenneth.  Every week I patiently wait for the next part or new lesson to come out.  Between that time I listen to other teachings, especially the ones that I have on my phone; Atheism Everything You Need to Know, Can Women Be Pastors, Christmas Rejection of Jesus, King James Bible, Podcast, Prayer, Repentance, and finally the Speaking in Tongues.  Speaking of which, I had yet another "discussion" with my parents about Speaking in Tongues.  My mom got to the point where she got in my face and said that she's been studying the Bible for 50 years and that she wasn't wrong.  I told her that that was a respecter of persons and that I wasn't going to take that from her.  I've asked them if they had looked at Chris' Speaking in Tongues serious all the way through.  They wouldn't say and all they would say is that they know where Chris stands on it.  Apparently to them I've been brainwashed by Chris.  Also, when my dad said he had studied speaking in tongues I asked him if he used outside resources other than the Bible to come up with his study.  He didn't deny that he did, just simply said that he did what I did and looked at the Bible.  In which I pressed the matter and asked again if he used outside resources.  He wouldn't say.  And every time I asked them to define what a tongue was they always used the excuse that I would interrupt them, even after I said I would keep my mouth shut until they were done.  They also said that I corrupted my twin brother in that he had a "good" "gift" from God that I had wrecked.  I told them to ask Curtis about his testimony on it but they would throw in my face that he was deceived.  I'm just glad Curtis doesn't think so, I'm glad God through with Curtis on what he did was wrong and humbled himself.  Sorry that was way off topic.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (VIDEO) The Manipulation of Psychology

« on: July 03, 2019, 10:38:59 PM »

Sure thing Chris, looking forward to it and will try to read it all the way through.  Shoot, I've spent from almost the time I got home from work until now trying to catch up on the forums.  That in of itself can be quite the read.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings Brothers and Sisters

« on: July 03, 2019, 09:21:40 PM »

Hi Christy,

I'm very pleased you joined us.  It's nice to see yet another person who comes on here and is thankful to be corrected already.  James 4:10; "Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up."

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (VIDEO) The Manipulation of Psychology

« on: July 03, 2019, 08:52:31 PM »

So do you plan on making an audio teaching on your Psychology article?  It looks like it will take awhile.  I like listening to your stuff while I'm at work and would love to listen to this one a couple of times.  Working in a juvenile detention center has seriously changed my thoughts on "mental" issues.  Most of these kids are so dependant on psychological drugs that they think they can't go a day without them.  Every time we get a kid in that has psych meds we automatically know we are going to have problems with them sooner or later.  You wouldn't be at all surprised at what I've had to deal with when it comes to some of the kids we have had.  Nothing at this job surprises me anymore about what may or may not happen with these types of kids.  Like I've told some people, "It's not mental illness, it's demon possession."

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General Discussion / Re: Flat Earther Leaders Lying

« on: June 05, 2019, 06:02:40 PM »

Flat earthers reminds me of evolutionists when it comes to the science.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (WEEKLY TEACHING) The Biblical Understanding of Pride p1

« on: June 01, 2019, 08:29:34 PM »

Listened to this one immediately when it was published.  Yep, I'm definitely on par.  Pride is hard leaven to get rid of.

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General Discussion / Re: Cross on the Cover

« on: June 01, 2019, 08:16:37 PM »

Like I've said before, I'm still trying to purge leaven out of my life too.  I'm glad to be apart of something here that I know for a fact that will help me in that.  I do have my brother, Curtis, to thank also in helping me on this path.  Curtis and I have been through a lot together pertaining to the Word of God. As twins, I guess most people expect that out of us.  One of the best things that we used to do is go to a quiet place with each other and do what James 5:16 told us to do.  We did that once a week for quite a while.  It helped much.

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General Discussion / Re: Cross on the Cover

« on: June 01, 2019, 07:57:12 PM »

Took me less than a year of listening to Christopher to start purging the leaven out of my life.  I would have to agree, learning way more outside the "church" than I ever did inside the "church."  It did get tiresome learning the same messages over and over and over again.  My dad ended up preaching almost an entire year on "prosperity."  Which happen to be full of false doctrine anyway, including taking scripture way out of it's context.

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Evangelism / Re: Husband of a rebellious wife does the right thing

« on: June 01, 2019, 07:43:45 PM »

Can't wait to listen to this one all the way through.  I've been enjoying listening to your all's street preaching.

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General Discussion / Re: Cross on the Cover

« on: May 27, 2019, 12:29:38 PM »

Thanks Kenneth, that video was very educational.  I never really thought that a sheet was actually 4 pages.  Goes to show you what they didn't teach me in public school.  What's sad, is that I learned more out of school than I ever did in school.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Caleb's Introduction

« on: May 24, 2019, 09:39:33 PM »

Thanks Jon, maybe we can both help each other in the future with our similar struggles that we have.  My main problem is that I can't just listen to Christopher's teachings without having to do something else in the process.  My mind always needs multiple things going on at one time.  So while I play I also listen.  Really, the only time I don't need multiple things going on at one time is when I'm reading.  Which is why getting my new Bible today may help to get further from wanting to play video games and concentrating more on the Word of God.  And now that I finally have a Bible I can read, I can finally start reading at work again while I'm in the control room or on break.

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General Discussion / Re: Cross on the Cover

« on: May 24, 2019, 09:15:14 PM »

Thanks for all your comments.  I do have good news.  Today I took that bible back to my hometown Walmart, not the same Walmart that I got the bible, and got my money back.  I decided to go check the shelves out of curiosity and sure enough, a plan black leather-touch KJB with absolutely no symbolism on it.  Best of all, it was cheaper by four dollars.  Let me tell ya, it was indeed hard to find one online and I was amazed how expensive some of those Bibles were.  Most of which was on the website that Laura had pointed out.  Again, thanks for all your help on getting me straightened out.  I will have to confess something though.  After my brother, Curtis, pointed out the cross symbol I thought about it a bit yesterday night and have realized that I have pointed out that same thing on my oldest brother's bible.  This was awhile back ago, over six months.  I texted Curtis around 9:00 pm to tell him that very thing, I messed up.  I know why I bought the bible, I just don't know why I shrugged off the cross symbol at that time.  It was also stupid of me to try to even defend it.  I guess I needed a good reminder again and I'm glad I have all of you here to correct me.  And again, thanks Christopher for that article.  It reopened memories that I shouldn't have forgotten about.  All I can do in a situation like this is humble myself and do the best not to repeat it.

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General Discussion / Re: Cross on the Cover

« on: May 23, 2019, 11:24:16 PM »

Thanks Kenneth, I appreciate this very much.

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General Discussion / Re: Cross on the Cover

« on: May 23, 2019, 10:38:15 PM »

Could any of you point out where you get your Bibles, and it wont bother me if I have to order one online.

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General Discussion / Re: Cross on the Cover

« on: May 23, 2019, 10:00:10 PM »

I actually started watching "The Biblical Understanding of Idolatry" again, but I was looking in the wrong place.  Thanks Christopher for the link to the ""Christian" Symbols are Not Christian" teaching.  I can't believe I forgot about that one.