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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Zoologistkid on August 19, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
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First of all, I want to thank all of for commenting and giving such interesting conversations. Like I said I want to help and want to talk to all of you for helping in return. Next, I want to talk to you about the stories I have been mentioning. The stories will have to deal with topics like anger, poachers/conservation of the environment, and more. In the stories, a lot of them will have people becoming humbled after becoming creatures. They are still human in every inward quality like the soul, the mind, and everything else but the outside has changed. I got the idea after reading The parts of Daniel involving King Nebuchadnezzar and what had to be done to humble him. Granted, he didn't become a creature but he certainly would've looked like one by the time that was over with crazy hair, fingernails like claws, would've smelled awful, and more.
The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers, and his nails like birds' claws.
Daniel 4:33
The stories will have bible verses that will match the situations in the stories. There will be no witchcraft, no paganism, no sexual implications, no profanity, or other evil things because I want it to really reach people from their standpoints. I also want the stories to be pleasing to the Lord Jesus Christ because I am terrible at speaking because I forget words, information, names, and more in just simple conversation. I can remember the verses but I can't remember where verses come from. I can communicate better through writing stories than talking because I can get so nervous or upset in conversations that makes it look like Christianity is a place for foolish people. I want to address arguments/questions in the stories from all sides. I've been wanting to tell you all but I have been so full of anxiety again, I'm sorry if this causes you any problems.
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I would like to see your responses to the topic I put here yesterday about my stories.
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It would be rather difficult to comment on stories that haven't even been written yet (or at least posted). Your ideas sound good, but we can't review anything we haven't actually read.
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I was wanting you to review the concept, I'm sorry if I confused you.
I mentioned the story Endangered Poachers in the Extinct animals topic. In the story, certain poachers are turned into creatures that are threatened in the wild. It will take place in Australia showing off animals that are forgotten over other ones. Everyone hears about the threatened koala but what about the dibbler, the woylie, or the black-footed tree rat. I want to show some said to be extinct ones that were killed by people, like the Thylacine. We are supposed to have dominion over the earth, right? And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26 I know people are more important than animals but we are supposed to take care of them also.
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I have to admit that I have sometimes wished that it was legal to hunt poachers... You would have to be very careful in your stories, however, not to give the impression that these people were in any way being reincarnated; that it was a punishment to have to live as animals and have others perceive them as such. In the case of Nebuchadnezzar, he actually became insane so that he was not capable of thinking as a human.
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I have so it is nothing like reincarnation because they are transformed and don't die. They are humanoid in shape, and they can still talk. However, they can understand each other, they can understand people, but people can't understand them. They look and sound like a weird animal even though they are still a person, so it would be easy to think that they are just that: an animal. If they were able to communicate with someone through writing or some other way, that someone could figure out that they are transformed, however, most people aren't going to want to sit and talk to them. What is the first thing people do when something unusual is seen in the wild? 'I gotta get out there and hunt/kill it because of Insert Reason Here'. They will also have to eat things that most people don't eat, In the of king Nebuchadnezzar it was grass, in the story, one of them begins to eat these (Giant Australasian Centipede):
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Ethmostigmus_rubripes.jpg/1200px-Ethmostigmus_rubripes.jpg) That part came from Chris saying most people have never skipped a meal in their lives and from my zoology teacher while talking about some combat stories about how people will change quickly on matters of food. Most people will say I will never eat a bug, but when you haven't gotten food for a few days, beetles will begin to look as delicious as a big cut of steak. ;) 8) I think I would actually like to try them even John the Baptist enjoy locusts and wild honey. I can understand the locust part but the honey part?:P
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Now, see, you're just the opposite of me! I would rather eat honey (if I didn't have to go through the bees to get it) than something that looks like a giant grasshopper.
So would these people resemble something like a Yowie/Yeti/Bigfoot?
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I can't handle sweet things, they taste pure awful to me and that is what honey is, the very embodiment of sweet. :P As for flavors, spicy, tart, and/or sour is the way to go for me. Is that the same with you or are you more of an opposite, again?
Also, what's not to love about these scrumptious creatures?
(https://i1.wp.com/www.crittersquad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/tumblr_mnhjwfVnF81r8vrhxo1_1280.jpg?fit=1024%2C768&ssl=1) Throw a couple of them on the barbecue and they'll taste great with a little sauce. 8) ;D
As for the creature states, they have the face of the creature, their hairstyle is still there, their hands are a mixture of the animal's paws, they walk like the creature (plantigrade/digitigrade), have the tail of the creature. They are humanoid in shape still, I should say. I hope this answers your question.
I should also mention I am going to poke fun at evolutionists in the story. According to them, the only difference between a man and an animal is a little wiring upstairs. I am going to have crazy evolutionists coming up with the idea that the people in creature form are an example of evolution in action. Also according to them, natural selection causes convergent evolution to happen. Convergent evolution means that two animals that are not related get the similar appearance ( the whole concept is a cop out). So in their minds, the transformed people is evolution jumping forward and giving animals a chance at becoming a person to fight back against extinction, (Completely ludicrous I know but there are some who believe this is going to happen in real life. I still trying to figure out the details myself, ??? ::)).
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Hi Caleb
I hope I don't put you off in any way but one of the main things you might need to think carefully about with your book is how you would get those who need to read it the most will want to read it. Those who are against poaching and who care about animals will read it but typically the poachers won't. There is already that problem in place with the Word of God that we are trying to address all the time. Would a major theme of the book be to divert the reader towards Christ all the time? If they just stop poaching animals those who had been poachers up until then will still be going in the fire of hell.
I hope this helps in some way of helping you get the outline of your book in place before you actually start writing it.
Locusts are becoming a very popular food here in New Zealand. Here is a typical article from the local news
Locust-eaters strip cupboard bare
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/locust-eaters-strip-cupboard-bare
lots of other news articles on locusts too
https://www.odt.co.nz/search/results/locusts
Apparently locust biscuits etc are very palatable and very moreish and a very cheap form of good nutrition. I'm not so sure Jeanne would like to try one though ;)
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Kevin, I will be doing that through the story. The (former) poachers are turned into creatures to have them be broken down from their state of rock hard pride. The transformed poachers go from their normal wicked lifestyle to living in the wildness (sleeping in a bed to sleeping on hard ground, trees, rocks), having to escape poachers/hunters coming after them, eating things that "civilized society" is disgusted by (grass, arthropods, and more), having to hide from people seeing them (one eyewitness is all that it takes and then twenty people are coming after you), and with nothing with but their wits to survive. Being hunted down like the animals you hunted down, would sure shake someone up, wouldn't it?
An example of this would be the poacher who becomes a northern hairy-nosed wombat guy. Northern hairy-nosed wombats are critically endangered with only a couple hundred left and live in a small national forest park called Epping Forest National forest. The forest is not even open to visitors and only volunteers, rangers, and scientists are allowed in. He with some other poachers break-in to kill a few of the wombats for a personal order. A rich person wants them for their meat and his wife wants a nice soft fur coat (these wombats have the softest fur of any wombat). When they can't find any, the group splits up and the guy transforms. The other poachers meet back up and see this weird large wombat creature making weird noises at them. The other poachers then figure it would be easier to kill just one large wombat than go through the effort of killing a few, so they turn their guns at him. This would break him down a bit, wouldn't it?
I will show the poachers to be relatable to real poachers and show off why people poach animals. The answers vary from money, commercial gain, consumption (either to prevent starvation or they just like the meat), trophies, pleasure and thrill in killing wildlife, pride, disagreeing with certain hunting regulations, claiming a traditional right to hunt, disagreeing with legal authority, say it is a part of personal or cultural history, or even feeling exhilarated and/or thrilled by outsmarting game wardens. I will be showing off the poachers being brought down into a broken state of repentance, which will be a big theme in my books. They will get new jobs after they are broken down into repentance, hunting poachers (no killing), fighting against the poacher syndicates (yes, that is a real thing, they are like the mafia and they are incredibly dangerous), and taking care of invasive animals (feral cat soup anyone?). I hope this helps explain things for you and thank you for feeling concerned. Don't be afraid to give me some more responses.
Also, thank you for the locust information, I will be reading them.
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I WISH sweet things tasted bad to me as I have a serious addiction to sugar and the accompanying struggle with weight.
I was reading a novel about Africa and one of the reasons some of the natives hate elephants is because the elephants destroy the crops the people depend on for food. To them, elephants are pests, endangered or not.
So, Kevin, have YOU tried any of these locust products yet? Just the thought of eating bugs makes me want to gag...
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That's another reason why people poach animals, however, there are solutions to the problem. In Africa right now, people are putting up beehive fences. Elephants are terrified of bees and they look like this:
(https://www.thisiscolossal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bees-2.jpg)
When you have enough of these, Elephants won't even get close to them. Do you find that interesting, Jeanne?
Also, why don't you start eating lemons regularly? I actually have eaten so many lemons that I literally can't their sourness anymore. After eating, just drink some water or milk to rinse out the citric acid in your mouth. That's what I do ;)
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If I were to eat lemons, I'd have to put a tonne of sugar on them first...
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Jeanne, I see that we are opposites a lot when it comes to flavors. There's a fruit you should try then, it is called the miracle fruit. When you eat it, you won't be able to taste anything bitter or sour for a while. A lemon would taste as sweet as a piece of candy. This is what they look like:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/MiracleBerry.jpg/1200px-MiracleBerry.jpg) They are filled with a miraculin which changes your taste buds for a little while. Do you think you would try it?
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I wish you all the very best with your writing Caleb and I hope it brings people to Christ and to a full maturity in Christ.
I haven't tried the locusts Jeanne as I didn't know they were being eaten like that until I saw it in the news article. I would certainly try them if I got the chance though.
A couple of years ago I bought some freeze dried miracle berry tablets and also bought lots of a variety of sour fruit for one of our monthly Friday night get togethers after work. At the get togethers the department puts on quite a lot of nice food all paid for and we all sit around talking into the evening until it's time to go home. I paid for the stuff I brought along though and everyone thought they were just brilliant.
http://www.miracleberries.co.nz/about.html
Eating a lemon is like eating something that tastes like lemonade. Cooking apples just as good. Best to use just half of a tablet or even less to condition your taste buds too and that keeps the cost down.
http://www.miracleberries.co.nz/about.html
(http://www.miracleberries.co.nz/media/MBerry-PacketsTabs.png)
A couple of times I have made icecream using liquid nitrogen. Just pour it in to the cream and sugar and fruit mixture while beating and you have the most smoothest and nice tasting icecream you have ever had. Best keep this icecream away from Jeanne ;) . Sorry to read though Jeanne that you have a struggle with sweet food. I'm not as trim as I used to be and must shed a couple of kilos. During the cold winter months it is easy to eat more food than normal.
That system of having the bee hives to protect against elephants is certainly innovative. Thanks for posting that Caleb as I really like seeing things like that put in to practice.
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Thanks for that website, Kevin, I'll have to give those a try! I had never heard of them before. I'll check first to see if we can get them here in Aus...
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You're welcome, Kevin like I said I want to help you out with information. I want the Endangered Poachers books to be readable to all sides, to poachers and to animal lovers because both sides can still end up in hell. Poachers break the law, slaughter animals, commit sedition, and more but animal lovers do the same all the time. Animal lovers usually give more worth to animals than people; they fantasize about poachers being torn to pieces and cheer when it happens in real life. In most stories involving poachers, guess what happens? They are murdered mercilessly by the animals they hunt after. Poachers are treated as if they are incapable of repentance, shame, or guilt. I want to show the hypocrisy of the animal lovers along with poachers in the story.
I also want to break the age-old mold that is everywhere. Don't forget, environmentalists are treated as if they do no wrong because they care for the earth. In all forms of media, land developers are treated as if they are satanical, forests are sacred sites, people are a virus to the earth and other bizarre beliefs. I want to show their hypocrisy also because it is such a rare thing to do.
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Caleb, I see a number of issues with what you have described as being the premise of your stories.
By what power are these people turned into animals? There is no such example in Scripture thus, you cannot rightly label it the power of GOD.
The Bible describes mankind as being a little lower than the angels.
Ps 8:4 "What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour"
The kind of creature you are describing cannot represent man as designed by GOD.
What would be the difference between what you are describing and the werewolf concept (which is wicked)? A person is either a person or we are taking about something else. There is no humanoid or part wolf, part human. Once a person "becomes" an animal, how can they be human as well? In the order of creation there are the heavenly bodies, the plants, the land, sea and flying creatures. When GOD created these HE spoke to the waters and the earth (Genesis 1: 20-25). When HE created man HE spoke to HIMSELF (Genesis 1: 26), this illustrates that man and animal are entirely separate. {The only example I can think of where something remotely like this is represented in Scripture is in the book of Ezekiel and it speaks of "living creatures", having the likeness of a man, which is not to say they were men. I will freely admit that there are things going on in some parts of Ezekiel (and the Bible in its entirety) that are beyond my comprehension.}
Nevertheless, please consider the philosophy your stories will/do portray. Your desire to discuss your viewpoints would be well-served tempered by Biblical truth.
Finally, repentance that is not toward GOD first and foremost is not the kind of repentance that changes a man in a lasting and meaningful way. Being sorry for killing animals and being grieved by the weight of one's sin are as far as east is from west.
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Smolemong, thank you for your worries and for seeing issues. They will be a person even after changing, not because they are a homo sapien sapiens, but because they have an eternal spirit, which animals do not have. They are still a person, I have and will not even mention that they are animals or part animals at all because I want to drill it into people's heads that man is not an animal. People in the story may mistakenly think that they are animals but they are not one in the slightest. Also, don't forget poachers commit a number of other sins like lying, hatred, sedition, drunkenness, revelings, emulations, uncleanness, pride, have no charity, fornication, adultery, murder, and more. I don't have anything (no stories) that have to do with werewolves because, like I said, I don't want anything to do with paganism. I am going to weave the facts, verses, and more into the stories instead of merely regurgitating them out. I am also going to have nothing with concepts like talking animals, animals becoming people, aliens, the living dead, and others. I'm sorry if I bothered you in any way, Smolemong.
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Caleb, I just want to point out that her name is not Smolemong, any more than yours is Zoologistkid. Everyone's first name is listed at the bottom of their profile, just as yours is, and her name is Silindile.
I, too, have concerns about how these transitions will take place and how they will be portrayed but will reserve judgement until such time as you actually have one ready to read/review.
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Sorry, Sillindle, I got confused that was your name. I hope I didn't offend you because of my goof up. I am really terrible with names and I mistook that for your name.
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Hi Caleb
Sillindle has summed up exactly what I had really been wanting to write too but I didn't want to be responsible for your perhaps leaving the forum and feeling crushed. I hope you do stay here. Like the others I agree it would be good that you changed the way the characters in your novel operated.
Therein lies the skill of an excellent novelist. How about writing a novel about a poacher who becomes a Christian and is repentant of all they have done in the past and then that person's interaction with the other people they have been around up until that point. Your novel could also point out the struggles in life with no longer having such a readily available supply of meat and the other animal items they used to sell. The more realistic to real life the more people will read a book and they can relate to the characters in the book. Even I would read a novel that was real to life but I have to admit that I don't think I would read the ones you were initially proposing.
I hope you are not hurt by anything written and I can assure you that I hope you do very well with your writing. In writing an excellent novel you may have a big impact in a positive way on a very large number of people.
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I first want to say thank you for worries, I will stay Kevin because where would I go? You all have great teachings and clearly are worried about me. You also give great responses and show Christ through your works. I want to create something unique, something that hasn't been done before. I have always been called unusual or weird (those are the most pleasant versions), so I want to create unusual things. I want my books to be realistic in many ways and do want to show animals. Don't forget to not judge a book by its cover, ;).
In all seriousness, however, I want to get people interested in the Bible with animals. His handiwork is seen in animals and in our very bodies. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse Romans 1: 20 but I won't take too far: And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Romans 1: 23.
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Perfectly said Silindile. As you guys already know, I'm against the "stories" anyway because they're always fantasy, and fantasy doesn't help the church or unbelievers.
Fantasy Novels: Invitations to Hell (http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/fantasy.php)
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I have already that article, Chris and I know that you're against them. It was well written and got me away from paganism. I just to do something right for once. I can't stop this constant feeling that no matter what I do, I can't do anything right. Remember, how I said that I felt unworthy of your time, that was that feeling speaking. I have tried everything to try and help people: talking to them, giving your website to them, and like I said, creating stories but all three have shown themselves now just as useless as the next. Looks like I was right, I can't do anything to help anyone. I'm sorry if I bothered you by bringing up the topic.
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Don't give up so easily, Caleb. We all have to go through a learning curve to see where the Lord can use us the most. Maybe writing non-fiction would be a better way to show off God's creation. Most of the books like that on the market now are put out by so-called 'creation ministries' that are so full of leaven they don't do anyone much good, either, and they're more interested in making money than in presenting the truth.
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I am not good at making non-fiction plus it's just going to junk anyway. Every time I try something, it always goes bad for me in one way or another. I want to create the stories regardless of money, I want to give them away and run on charity. It's like a bad running gag, I try one thing, the thing turns out to be evil, bad, worthless, or some other thing (always negative). Like I said, I am a better writer than I am a talker because I goof up so much in simple conversations. So why even try?
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Why even try? Because a true failure is not one who fails at many things, but one who allows failure to keep them from trying again. God DOES have a plan for you, and just because you haven't yet found that plan does not mean that He has given up on you. You are not wasting anyone's time by being here; the church exists to help and encourage one another, but also to keep each other from straying away from God's word.
I thought Kevin gave you some excellent advice on how you could handle these stories. but you seem to have rejected that because it's not the kind of thing YOU want to write. Well, guess what? Living a godly life/serving God is not about what WE want, but rather, what GOD wants. And it's very often the case where those two things are in direct conflict with one another.
I'm sure there are many things Chris would rather be doing than have to rebuke/answer hateful email from people who claim to be Christians but aren't, too. He could just as easily give up the writing and teaching he does because there are so few people who will listen, anyway.
At least you have a DESIRE to serve God and spread His word, which puts you way ahead of most people, let alone most people your age. So hang in there, and figure out what God has in store for you. You need to be prepared to put aside your own desires in the process, though.
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I have already that article, Chris and I know that you're against them. It was well written and got me away from paganism. I just to do something right for once. I can't stop this constant feeling that no matter what I do, I can't do anything right. Remember, how I said that I felt unworthy of your time, that was that feeling speaking. I have tried everything to try and help people: talking to them, giving your website to them, and like I said, creating stories but all three have shown themselves now just as useless as the next. Looks like I was right, I can't do anything to help anyone. I'm sorry if I bothered you by bringing up the topic.
Hi Caleb
What you describe is so close to real life for probably all of us here. We have all failed at so many things and it actually our failures that makes us the people who we are and gives us that determination to go on.
In my job I work as a development engineer and that is what I get paid for, on the outside it probably sounds fantastic, I design and make items for the dairy industry as well as for horticulture and pest control. Working in any kind of development has way more failure than success and that is just the way it is and it is why development costs so much. Just in the last couple of weeks I developed a device for dairy cows, it got sent away and a vet had a try with it and sent it back as being totally unsuitable and has to be completely redesigned because they didn't tell me all the details I needed to know. Just another job I thought I had made a brilliant job of and all five of the prototypes are only good for salvaging parts and the rest goes in the rubbish bin like so many other things. A vast amount of what I do just goes straight in to the rubbish bin. Does that get to me? ..... yes, sometimes it sure does.
Our problems are small considering we also have God watching over us and we have a sureness of the future whereas the general population are completely lost and have no idea about life. They don't know where they came from, they don't know why they are here, they don't understand life and they don't know where they are going. You know all of those things. In the grand scheme of things you are an absolute winner.
All in all, the way you feel is really quite normal and affects all of the rest of us probably way more than you imagine. ;) You're just like us.
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Thank you both, Jeanne and Kevin for your kind words because I was very upset last night. I was crying because of the fact, the feeling that I couldn't do anything right just kept getting stronger and stronger until I couldn't take it anymore. Jeanne, I am terrible at writing nonfiction and I would be just regurgitating information. That would that I would tell you that the witchetty grub tastes like peanut butter when it has been cooked, rather than showing it off with a character eating one of them. I was brought up with the phrase "show, not tell" and I think it has stuck with me.
I really do want to help Christ and people but every time I try, I mess it up horribly. Be it accidentally dropping things onto feet, confusing people by not describing things better, forgetting where I got the information from, forgetting very important details, and other problems that I always cause. I don't know why but I have always had the feeling like back in fourth grade, the school was doing something about teaching about disabilities (at the time I wasn't diagnosed with Autism or ADHD, that wasn't until I was sixteen to seventeen years old), I was supposed to draw with my left hand (I am right handed) and draw my right hand with my back turned. I was the only kid in class who got upset because they couldn't create a good drawing. I think I am a perfectionist in a negative way, nothing I create is good enough. Like I said, every time I try something new it turns out to be some negative thing. There are people who believe they can do no wrong, I am the opposite, I can do no right. There are other feelings that don't go away either like I can't help anyone, the fear that someone is going to go to hell because I didn't do something correctly like talking, the fear for my friends and family, the worry that I will become a false teacher, and other negative things.
Thank you all once again for your words of rebuke or encouragement I pray that you all have a good day.
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You're under the impression that you save anyone or that you make anyone have a love the truth based on how you phrase things. That's not what the Bible teaches us. It is the Spirit of God that gives men repentance and a love of the truth.
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
-2Ti 2:25
Where did you begin to believe that it was by your own abilities that men would turn their ears to you? Certainly, we persuade men, but the Bible tells us that NO ONE seeks after God and NO ONE understands:
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
-Romans 3:11
Thus, it is by the Spirit of God that men understand and seek Him, not by a fancy method of words you came up with. Do you think you listened to my teachings because I have a grand way of presentation? No. You listened because the Spirit of God gave you understanding.
When I was saved, the Lord God put a huge desire to teach in my heart, but it took years before I started doing it because I thought I had to have a lot of money and support to start. Finally, I got to a point where I didn't care if I had money or support, I was going to do it anyway, and that's when things started moving. Later, I learned that I didn't need fancy ways to present anything; that the Word of God is given to men today in the same way that it was 2,000 years ago.
When I got started, I was in my apartment, alone, and going broke because the person who promised me a job to this new place I moved into went back on his word.
- I ended up having to move in with my parents.
- I had no job.
- I had no money.
- The man who originally helped me get started in ministry died shortly after I met him.
- I got involved in a creation organization that ended up making me go broke again on the lies of a pastor.
- Pastors and church buildings everywhere turned against me.
- I got fired from a job over giving a presentation in the town I lived in.
- 99% of the emails and communication I got were hate mail and scoffers.
- Churchgoers would commonly get on board with what I was doing until I rebuked their sin and then they would depart.
- My wife and I struggled to make ends meet, while all my so-called "friends" and most of my family abandoned us; all the while my wife was (i.e. used to be) mean and abusive to me.
I'm just giving a few examples here... but I kept teaching. Why? Anybody else, doing anything else, would have just quit because nothing was happening and no one would listen. It's because God put that desire in my heart, and if I have to put a finer point on it, the one thing that's really kept me going, is that God put in my heart this thing that... I don't know if I can describe it. When I see wickedness and false doctrines, I get angry and motivated because of the people who are being deceived; I can't stand to keep silent. Then, when I learned that God preserved His Word for that reason (Psalm 12), to protect the poor and needy, then I knew that God had put in me a strong sense of justice for those are oppressed, and that's really kept me going, to do what's right for the Lord Jesus Christ on behalf of His elect.
Fanciful writing can make you money if you market it to the right crowd, in the right way, but support for it will only come from leavened sources, and that's not what you want. What will invest into heaven and eternal life is to understand the doctrine of Christ, and teach it to others.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
-Mat 28:18-20
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Chris, I know all of those things. I said that I feel that I can do nothing right and that feeling really happens when I believe that I have failed Christ. I don't believe that it is my abilities that will lead people to Him, however, I believe that it is my fault when I talk to people and when it doesn't go the way I planned (which always happens), I blame myself and my abilities. There are incidents where they believe I am lying because I forgot the verse location or where I got the information. I make all of Christianity look bad when I fail in these simple conversation. I really try to spread the truth but I fail miserably every time. I have the desire but fail in every way. Another reason that I was afraid to join all of you was that I was afraid that I was going to the little leaven that ruins everything for all of you. I'm sorry, Chris, I always feel like I am always going to ruin things for everyone and create problems for everyone. The feeling that I can't help anyone comes from all of these incidents rolled into one, I'm sorry. I know that I do not deserve the grace of God but I still feel like a failure and I'm trying to get rid of that.
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There's a saying in network marketing circles that I believe is applicable here. I don't believe in a lot of the gobbledygook they teach, but this one thing I do believe to be true:
You can't say the right thing to the wrong person and you can't say the wrong thing to the right person.
Either someone is looking for the truth or they're not; either they will be receptive to the truth, or they won't. In either case, it doesn't matter what you say or how you say it; what matters is the condition of that person's heart and whether they will listen to the Holy Spirit or not.
So what if you can't remember where a particular verse is found or where you got a particular piece of information from? If a person calls you a liar because of those things, they were looking for an excuse not to accept what you were saying in the first place. Even if you said everything perfectly and had all of your information neatly organised and presented it in a compelling manner, they would find some other excuse not to believe or to get out of the conversation with you.
Like Chris said (indirectly), if you continue to wait for the perfect circumstances, you will never get started. Just go do what you feel you should be doing and learn as you go. Chris fell flat on his face many, MANY times before he got to where he is now, and so will you. The thing is to just keep going. I'm sure there were times the apostles felt like quitting, too. Having people say mean things to you is nothing compared to the beatings, torture, imprisonment, and threat of execution those guys faced every single day. Look how many times Paul had to leave places in a hurry because there were angry mobs out for his blood!
Look at it this way: If people hate you because of what you're saying, you must be doing something right!
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Thank you, Jeanne, Chris, Kevin, for the words of encouragement. I can get a little depressed at times and I am trying to get rid of it. I will learn to be better at trying to reach to people with words. I am just rather new at all of this and have only tried to do so for the past few years. I am trying to make it so I don't get so fired up (emotionally distraught) about stuff, so I thought creating stories would be a relaxing thing to do. Chris, you're right about if I were to get support for the stories I would just get leaven and trouble. I am a little confused about what you said though,
Fanciful writing can make you money if you market it to the right crowd
. I said I didn't care about money and wanted to give the stories away. I want to create the stories regardless of money, I want to give them away and run on charity.
I wanted to spread God's word and I thought that animals could be a way to create a talking point for they are so cleverly created. Their abilities, their design, and all about them just scream that they are created. Once I have them with animal information, I wanted to explain they had a creator and what happened to them to be fallen. I didn't want animals to have the traits of people because man is above animals. I also wanted to weave the information into the story along with the Bible. So I thought I could make stories about biblical topics where the people in the story learn along with the reader. I began to create stories based on topics like the environment/conservation, anger, how a country should be run biblically, keeping your word, and others. Looks like all that is for nothing and will amount to nothing. I was right about the stories being useless because you said it yourself,
fantasy doesn't help the church or unbelievers
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I have an idea, I wanted to see what you all think. Maybe I could create a book about creationism and evolutionism are two sides of the same wicked coin. In the book, I could talk about evolution is bad but creationist organizations are just as bad. I'll talk about how the organization's yolk up with evil organizations, how they defend witchcraft holidays to an insane level, what leaven is, how corrupt they are with money, how uncharitable they are actually, how many of the organizations are not even lead by Christians, how full of false converts they are, and other wicked things that they do. I think it would certainly raise some eyebrows and ruffle some feather ;D.
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That's a possibility. Another thing I was thinking was that you could write a series in which a character (maybe a child) was listening to stories of different animals from an older person. This way, you could present all the known facts about each animal in short stories, along with the wonder of the child listening to the stories.
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That is a good idea, Jeanne. Could you flesh it out a bit more?
I should let you know that I had more stories than the two I mentioned like Pests, What is a monster?, Job Finishers, Family Reunion, Predator and Prey? Nope!, Hooved Chaos, and more. Looks like all of those are destined for the trash barrel to burn, eh?
I liked to create the stories because it was a calming thing to do. I can get really upset because of the Autism and ADHD. I have really tried to work on my social skills during the past few years and I can thank Christ for that in Chris's article about charity. I really began to examine myself due to how blunt I was and how intense I was. I am still learning to less blunt and still trying to examine myself a lot. I am sanctifying myself the stuff I was interested in and the problems that come with them. Was it the same for the rest of you in the way you examined yourselves?
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Hey Caleb, I dont think we've met yet, I'm Thomas and I joined the forum around april this year.
I have been reading this post but have kept silent on what is going on because I agree with what other people have already said.
I did have a thought on your situation.
It sounds like you are really interested in preserving Gods creation (poached animals) and exposing the wickedness that goes on behind the scenes. As well as the different kinds of animals out there.
I know this may take years but have you considered what it would be like to actually go out and do what you are thinking of writing about in real life? Then you could write about your actual experiences and the wickedness that you saw and what you did about it and include your testimony so that others will see the work that God has done in your life. I know you think ADHD and autism is a stubbling block for you but I know that God created you the way you are on purpose. You can look at it as a disability or an advantage, and you can let it bring you down or you can allow God to build you up into something that glorifies him. Allowing the way you are to bring you down does not glorify him in any way.
Was it the same for the rest of you in the way you examined yourselves?
I used to "suffer" from OCD where I would become incredibly stressed and anxious because I thought I had to touch things around the house a certain way or count the number of times I did something vain, and if I didnt do it right, I would have to start all over and it became very overwhelming.
Honestly I'm not sure how I "grew" out of it but when I started studying Gods word I became more relaxed in my every day life. I was able to put my burdens away and focus on His Word, rather than something completely pointless.
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I have thought about it Thomas, however, I don't think I could do that. I am not that physically able and plus I hate dealing with certain textures. I hate it when it rains on me to the point where I almost go ballistic (which is what my family says what happens). On the topic of Autism, it can be a stumbling block because I am poor at catching/making sarcasm and I really had to learn social skills because I was so intense on people.
I want to get people to question stuff that we are taught. A lot of people think we have figured out everything, discovered everything, and all things have a natural explanation. The "know" that dinosaurs are extinct, they "know" that all religions are the same, they "know" that somebody is a hero or a wicked person, and how do they know this? That's easy, a lot of people believe it so it must be true or I was taught this from kindergarten up. People think that America is fine but the other countries need help. That statement is completely false, all countries need Christ but they are fooled into believing that they know everything about Christianity and that Christianity is nothing more than evolved paganism.
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I have an idea that I think you would like. I want to create a story about said to be extinct animals in a different light than popular culture and hellywood teaches. They teach that if a man were to meet a said to be extinct animal, the two would fight and either the man would win or the dinosaur would eat the man. They teach that we are incompatible (incapable of living with) with creatures like dinosaurs, aquatic reptiles, pterosaurs, or any group of animal that they declare extinct. The book would a collection of stories of people meeting animals that people say are extinct. For example, a young girl lost at sea gets help from a mosasaur (https://pre00.deviantart.net/9687/th/pre/f/2013/135/a/a/mosasaur_by_preradkor-d65dn2l.jpg). Hellywood and popular culture show off any and all animals as bloodthirsty abominations that are gone from the world. I think it would an interesting read and I am also going to little hits at evolutionism with their millions of years insanity. Along with their beliefs in feathered dinosaurs, missing links, a meteor striking the earth, and other insanities that they cook up. I can already imagine the hate mail from them and from other people because I dared to question their holy sacred cow. I also want to show God through his creations and how God uses them for judgments.
Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. Matthew 10:29
I people to question what evolutionism says because everyone I have talked to has accepted their lies and defend them viciously. Do you think it would be a good idea?
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The only problem I can see with that right now is that you would also have to make assumptions that can't be proven one way or the other about the animals you're talking about. I think you should stick with KNOWN facts. Like people used to claim that the coelacanth was extinct and was supposedly a fish that was in the process of growing legs. At least, until live ones were found...
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That's what I plan to do, Jeanne.;)
For example, here are some known facts about mosasaurs: They had a second pair of jaws in their mouths, (https://www.fossilguy.com/gallery/vert/reptile/mosasaur/mosasaur-rows-of-teeth.jpg)
they even had a forked tongue,
they had a fluke like a shark, (https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/hires/2013/press_2.jpg),
they had double-hinged jaws/ flexible skulls like snakes, they swam like sharks with their bodies held stiff, they could be freshwater/marine animals, they were first found in 1764, they gave birth to live young, they had two types of scales (keeled or nonreflective scales on top and smooth scales covering the lower part of the body, they had lips like a lizard(the ones with exposed teeth are made to look "cool"), there is evidence to suggest they were/are cool-blooded (along with dinosaurs and other said to be extinct reptiles; there is a state where you are neither warm or cold blooded but something in between called mesothermic, mackerel sharks, tuna, echidnas, and leatherback sea turtles are all examples of this), and they could grow to sixty feet long (http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/m/mosasaurus-size.jpg).
But there are facts that people reject like mosasaurs being alive today, they were/are herbivores, they didn't come from a land lizard, and the fact they didn't rule the seas for millions of years.
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What I meant was, you can't make assumptions about their behaviour or how they would act/react around people unless there are records of people interacting with them.
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I actually want to talk about that Jeanne, thank you for clarifying. Evolutionists believe that they can know an animals behavior just from their bones. There are stories of mosasaur being seen like the mosasaur seen from a cruise ship and from the description it wasn't acting predatory, it was curious. You can read about it here but as a slight warning this comes from a guy who turns creatures like these in monsters: http://www.kronosrising.com/carnival-cruise-monster-living-mosasaur-stalk-ship/ (http://www.kronosrising.com/carnival-cruise-monster-living-mosasaur-stalk-ship/)
Also, Jeanne, many so-called dangerous wild animals have saved people. A group of lions rescued/defended a young girl from several wicked men, a sea lion saved a suicidal man, a deer fought off an attacker saving a woman, there was even a beaver that comforted an orphan boy while keeping him warm, and even a giant sea turtle saved a woman's life while a little turtle on his back kept her awake. Like Chris says God can give an order to allow a crocodile to eat a wicked person, can't the opposite be true.
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I also recently saw a video about a woman who thought she was being 'attacked' by a whale while she was diving, as the whale seemed a little aggressive. It was pushing her with its fins back towards her boat. When she looked back, she realised the whale was actually trying to get her away from a shark she hadn't seen!
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That is pretty interesting, Jeanne, thank you for sharing that. I do think that many "savage prehistoric monsters" would turn out to be harmless creatures or maybe even be friendly. Do you think this could be the case, also?
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That reminds me of a news item from quite a few years ago.
Dolphins saved us from shark, lifeguards say
25 Nov, 2004 8:41am
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3613343
A pod of dolphins is being credited with saving a group of lifeguards from a circling great white shark.
Lifeguard Rob Howes, his daughter Niccy, 15, Karina Cooper, 15, and Helen Slade, 16, were swimming 100m out to sea at Ocean Beach, near Whangarei, when seven bottlenose dolphins sped towards them and herded them together.
"They were behaving really weird," Mr Howes said, "turning tight circles on us, and slapping the water with their tails."
Mr Howes and Helen Slade had drifted about 20m away from the others when a dolphin swam straight at them and dived a few metres in front of them.
"I turned in the water to see where it was going to come up, but instead I saw this great big grey fish swim around me," said Mr Howes.
The veteran lifeguard said it was undoubtedly a 3m-long great white shark.
"It glided around in an arc and headed for the other two girls. My heart went into my mouth, because one of them was my daughter. The dolphins were going ballistic."
The 47-year-old said the dolphins herded the swimmers - who are all members of the Whangarei Heads Surf Lifesaving Club - back together and circled protectively around them for another 40 minutes, fending off the shark.
More in the article.
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On the subject of God's creatures and how sometimes they help man in what seems to be a knowing kind of a way it might be of interest to read of a dolphin that was well known in new Zealand and was given the name Pelorus Jack.
How did all of the animals know to be allowed to be hearded by Noah on to the Ark or maybe even to present themselves at the ark at the right time. They just knew.
Pelorus Jack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelorus_Jack
Pelorus Jack (fl. 1888 - April 1912) was a Risso's dolphin that was famous for meeting and escorting ships through a stretch of water in Cook Strait, New Zealand, between 1888 and 1912. Pelorus Jack was usually spotted in Admiralty Bay between Cape Francis and Collinet Point, near French Pass, a notoriously dangerous channel used by ships travelling between Wellington and Nelson. ...
... Pelorus Jack guided the ships by swimming alongside a water craft for 20 minutes at a time. If the crew could not see Jack at first, they often waited for him to appear. ...
... Pelorus Jack was first seen around 1888 when it appeared in front of the schooner Brindle when the ship approached French Pass, a channel located between D'Urville Island and the South Island. When the members of the crew saw the dolphin bobbing up and down in front of the ship, they wanted to kill him, but the captain's wife talked them out of it. To their amazement, the dolphin then proceeded to guide the ship through the narrow channel. And for years thereafter, he safely guided almost every ship that came by. With rocks and strong currents, the area is dangerous to ships, but no shipwrecks occurred when Jack was present. ...
Many sailors and travellers saw Pelorus Jack, and he was mentioned in local newspapers and depicted in postcards.
Since 1989, Pelorus Jack has been used as a symbol for the Interislander, a ferry service across the Cook Strait, and is incorporated into the livery of the ships in the fleet.
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I think that every animal has a gentle side, for example, even sharks like to be pet like a dog:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/992/683/1e6.gif)
and here's a crocodile acting like a dog:
(http://www.wereblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Chito-Pocho-1.jpg).
You can read about the man and his croc here:
https://www.animalsaustralia.org/features/amazing-croc-story.php (https://www.animalsaustralia.org/features/amazing-croc-story.php)
Another part of the story I thought of involves a woman being woken up in the middle of a blizzard freezing to death by a Huaxiaosaurus
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dinosaurs/images/4/4d/Huaxiaosaurus_is_freaking_huge_by_fragillimus335-d5jlkg1.png/revision/latest?cb=20140205020204). First, it tries nudging her gently but tries a little harder and eventually roars in her face waking her up. That would be a sight to see!
Also on a side note, evolutionist are saying that dinosaurs couldn't roar and that the roars in Chris's article are just fake sounds. That's funny all of history says dragon could roar and dinosaurs are dragons so they could roar. What do you think?
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Kevin, thank you for reminding me of Pelorus Jack. Jack led all ships through that channel except for one. In 1904, a drunk on a ship called The Penguin shot at Jack causing him to flee with a blood trail. Two weeks later, Jack showed up at his usual place but never led The Penguin ever again. In fact, The Penguin sank on the rocks of the French Pass on Feb 12, 1909; the only ship that sank during his career. The shooting caused an outrage and a law was passed making it illegal to shoot dolphins in New Zealand waters. I can understand why he avoided The Penguin, it is like being stung by a bee, would you want to jump right back into a beehive?
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Hi Caleb
I was going to put those extra bits about Pelorus Jack in too but then decided against it. :)
I'm still not sure that the book you are still in the planning stages of will be read by people like poachers.
A poacher walks in to a book shop and says to the person behind the counter, "
Poacher: Hello, I'm after a book that will make me feel guilty for all of the wrong I have done in my life and that will give me sound reasons for me to change my ways. Have you got any thing like that?
Retailer: Well, yes sir we do, I know exactly what you are looking for. We have the Authorized King James Version Bible and we have another recent novel about animals driven to extinction or to the verge of extinction by ruthless poachers.
Poacher: I can't decide which one to buy. I'll take both of them.
All is not lost though. As the others pointed out too, it is doubtful that a novel about animals would have the desired effect of leading people to Christ or that a poacher would read one of them. Please don't take that the wrong way. Looking at the other material you have posted you could write an amazing book about prehistoric, endangered and largely unknown (cryptozoology) animals and you could describe them and why they are God's creation and why evolution is impossible. If you did that your book would definitely be on my book shelf and would probably be purchased by untold thousands of other people too. If the pics you post in the forum are free for use you could use those in the book, they are outstanding. All of the material in your posts is outstanding.
A large book with lots of excellent glossy pictures of fossils and extinct animals and cryptozoology and numerous mentionings of the God of the Bible and DNA and genetics would be suitably offensive to cause some people out there to start thinking in ways they have never thought before.
If the book is a best seller, make sure you mention me in the front (large letters, no small print) and how I put you on to it and that it was all my idea ::)
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Kevin, I mentioned earlier that I may or may not create books like those anymore.
I should let you know that I had more stories than the two I mentioned like Pests, What is a monster?, Job Finishers, Family Reunion, Predator and Prey? Nope!, Hooved Chaos, and more. Looks like all of those are destined for the trash barrel to burn, eh?
I asked you guys what you thought about these two books /story ideas:
I have an idea, I wanted to see what you all think. Maybe I could create a book about creationism and evolutionism are two sides of the same wicked coin. In the book, I could talk about evolution is bad but creationist organizations are just as bad. I'll talk about how the organization's yolk up with evil organizations, how they defend witchcraft holidays to an insane level, what leaven is, how corrupt they are with money, how uncharitable they are actually, how many of the organizations are not even lead by Christians, how full of false converts they are, and other wicked things that they do. I think it would certainly raise some eyebrows and ruffle some feathers ;D.
I have an idea that I think you would like. I want to create a story about said to be extinct animals in a different light than popular culture and hellywood teaches. They teach that if a man were to meet a said to be extinct animal, the two would fight and either the man would win or the dinosaur would eat the man. They teach that we are incompatible (incapable of living with) with creatures like dinosaurs, aquatic reptiles, pterosaurs, or any group of animal that they declare extinct. The book would a collection of stories of people meeting animals that people say are extinct. For example, a young girl lost at sea gets help from a mosasaur. Hellywood and popular culture show off any and all animals as bloodthirsty abominations that are gone from the world. I think it would an interesting read and I am also going to little hits at evolutionism with their millions of years insanity. Along with their beliefs in feathered dinosaurs, missing links, a meteor striking the earth, and other insanities that they cook up. I can already imagine the hate mail from them and from other people because I dared to question their holy sacred cow. I also want to show God through his creations and how God uses them for judgments.
Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. Matthew 10:29
I want people to question what evolutionism says because everyone I have talked to has accepted their lies and defend them viciously. Do you think it would be a good idea?
Another part of the story I thought of involves a woman being woken up in the middle of a blizzard freezing to death by a Huaxiaosaurus. First, it tries nudging her gently but tries a little harder and eventually roars in her face waking her up. That would be a sight to see!
What do you think of these ideas, Kevin? Do you think you would want to read them? I want to show the lesser known animals, when was the last time you heard about the largest duckbill dinosaur (Huaxiosaurus)? Other ones I want to show off involve Deinocheirus
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/adeb/th/pre/i/2014/126/0/3/makes_you_stranger_by_hodarinundu-d7hg5aj.jpg)
Therizinosaurus (disregard the feathers)
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dinosaurs/images/4/41/Therizinosaurus_the_stompling_land_03_by_swordlord3d-d7zmc3d.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151130183219)
Australovenator
(https://cdn.weasyl.com/~spartadog/submissions/55376/28ee1a55957c7692a87d605478ff67b16b93a9b3234d399a659f1abe221c7992/spartadog-australovenator-wintonensis.png)
and others. Which one is the strangest one in your opinion?
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Hi Caleb
I don't think I would read the books you propose. Possibly. I'm not in to stories much and hence why I have never had much time for movies. A good story for me would have to be very realistic in today's world and have a good strong Christian message to it.
Have you heard Chris' audio teachings on dinosaurs.
Study #0145 [Aug 28, 2016]
1st Half--Scripture reading from Micah 2-4
2nd Half--Dinosaurs and the Bible pt.6
(Various Dinosaur Sightings & Recent Discoveries)
Study #0144 [Aug 21, 2016]
1st Half--Scripture reading from Jonah 3-Micah 1
2nd Half--Dinosaurs and the Bible pt.5
(Sea Monster Sightings Worldwide)
Study #0143 [Aug 14, 2016]
1st Half--Scripture reading from Obadiah-Jonah 2
2nd Half--Dinosaurs and the Bible pt.4
(Behemoth Sightings & Loch Ness Monster)
Study #0142 [July 31, 2016]
1st Half--Scripture reading from Amos 6-9
2nd Half--Dinosaurs and the Bible pt.3
(Behemoth & Leviathan)
Study #0141 [July 24, 2016]
1st Half--Scripture reading from Amos 3-5
2nd Half--Dinosaurs and the Bible pt.2
(Ica Stones & Noah's Ark)
Study #0140 [July 17, 2016]
1st Half--Scripture reading from Joel 3-Amos 2
2nd Half--Dinosaurs and the Bible pt.1
(Dinosaurs & Man Living Together)
You could create a novel about people in African countries who are still encountering dinosaurs and other animals that have long been thought to be extinct and wrap the refuting of evolution and the sin of the creationists using their organizations for the wrong reasons in to the story. I would read a book like that. A book worth reading would have to realistically portray what can be the harsh reality of being set apart for Christ. A "fluffy" book may tickle some people's ears but they won't be grounded in Christ anywhere near as much as they need to be.
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Instead of a novel, how about a series of children's books that could be used by homeschoolers to teach about these animals? As I said in an earlier post, you could write them in story form, such as a child going to a museum and learning the TRUE history of these animals from a parent or grandparent and point out the differences between what the Bible has to say and what the museum's explanation is.
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For what I have planned for the story isn't exactly going to be "fluffy", for example, the reason why the girl was swept out to sea was that she was trying to reach out to her "friends" by preaching repentance and in anger, they slam into her, sending her tumbling until she winds up into a storm drain. She is stuck there and a huge storm happens causing to be caught up in the waters sending her a one-way ticket to the Pacific ocean stuck on a log. There she is stuck on the log for a while until another storm happens causing her to fall off the log. She almost drowns and cries out for help; the "help" in this case is a sixty foot long, fully grown mosasaur.
Actually, Kevin, I don't like fluff and prefer realistic situations like you said, Kevin. I want people to understand that if you are Christian, the world will hate you and will persecute you. The world includes so-called "Christian" organizations and creation organizations. In fact, the characters in the story are going to be Christians that have the world trying to destroy them. Does that sound better to you, Kevin?
Also, Kevin, I think the one about creationism may not be a story because I think I could try to make a nonfiction one for once.
That's a great idea, Jeanne, I think that would be fun to write.
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Hi Caleb
From here my opinion would be that you write the novel and present it to the world and see how things go.
Changing the subject a bit. The extinction of animals is an interesting topic. Here in New Zealand we used to have the moa (five distinct types) which is a large flightless bird. It is believed the Maori hunted the birds to extinction. If that was the case the Maori might not have known they were wiping the birds out as each time they killed one they were just putting food on the table and quite probably figured there were plenty more where that one came from .... until they were all gone. I don't think they could ever be blamed for making the moa extinct as they wouldn't have known any better. Put in the same situation I think I would have done the same. Many animals go extinct all the time even without the hand of man being involved. Does God care if animals become extinct? Does God see animals as just a food source and something useful for His prized creation .... man?
Revelation 8 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 and the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
^ That's probably quite a few extinctions right there above and like the flood is brought about by the hand of God.
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Kevin, I should let you know there have been sightings of moas to this day. I still think they still cling to life like many said to be extinct animals.
I think that individuals within a kind may go extinct but the whole kinds themselves don't go extinct. I think this is the case with animals like the dinosaurs, marine reptiles, pterosaurs, and more animals. There is so much variety in a kind from an aquilops
(https://pm1.narvii.com/6514/467cf08367da8da2633734c2598850a7766b35cf_hq.jpg) to a pachyrhinosaurus
(https://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/n-yp39j5/ujq6o/products/785/images/1518/shanpachlak__16087.1448746962.1280.1280.jpg?c=2).
When I'm working on it, do you think that you would want to read it, Kevin? I would like to have advice, ideas, and more because you all are so pleasant to talk to. I thank Christ for letting me find you all because I haven't had such good conversations in a long time. I like all the ideas you all have been giving me because they sound really good and I think I will be using them.
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Hi Caleb
You are well read on animals like the moa. :)
Yes, as far as I know there has only been one sighting of a moa even after so many centuries of them having been considered to be extinct. The only sighting I know of was in a most unlikely place called Erehwon (nowhere spelled backwards and it really is way out in the back of nowhere) in Canterbury and that is also where I am from. A group of trampers (hikers in the American language) who were all credible people and had no reason to lie commented that they saw the moa and it ran away before they had the chance to get the camera out to take a photo of it. They all said, "We know what we saw and I'll tell you now, that was a moa".
Yes, I will certainly read a book for you as you write it and will give feedback. Very pleasing you have found a place like CLE here where you have found you can interact with others and they treat you well.
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Kevin, Jeanne, do you have suggestions for the story? I have thought of a few situations like I said the girl with the mosasaur and the woman with the Huaxiaosaurus. I would love to see your responses.
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Kevin, Jeanne, do you have suggestions for the story? I have thought of a few situations like I said the girl with the mosasaur and the woman with the Huaxiaosaurus. I would love to see your responses.
Hi Caleb
No suggestions from me. If you want to be a novelist then that means you will have to have the writing skills required. That means you will have to come up with the main theme of the novel and then the over all outline and then have the abilility to word it all in a way that will be what you want it to be for the reader. I'm not a novelist so I won't be of any use in any way on material like that. I totally failed English at school.
You might find that you have to sit on your ideas for quite a long time until you figure out what you want to do and how you are going to do it.
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Thanks, Kevin, for letting me know. I am still trying to create a name for the story but I haven't figured out one yet. I have tried to think of one but the ones I did think of were unappealing :-\.
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It's usually easier to come up with a title AFTER the story is written, or you at least have an idea of how it's going to go...
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I think that may be for the best for now, because I want to write it down first. Does the story sound something you would read, Jeanne?
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I don't know yet. As I told you before, I don't think you should ASSUME how any of these animals would interact with people unless there is documentation of them actually doing so. Otherwise, you're being just as fanciful as the people you're trying to rebuke.
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Jeanne, I thought I gave you some documentation of them interacting with people:
I actually want to talk about that Jeanne, thank you for clarifying. Evolutionists believe that they can know an animals behavior just from their bones. There are stories of mosasaur being seen like the mosasaur seen from a cruise ship and from the description it wasn't acting predatory, it was curious. You can read about it here but as a slight warning this comes from a guy who turns creatures like these in monsters: http://www.kronosrising.com/carnival-cruise-monster-living-mosasaur-stalk-ship/ (http://www.kronosrising.com/carnival-cruise-monster-living-mosasaur-stalk-ship/) and http://www.kronosrising.com/carnival-cruise-monster-super-predator/ (http://www.kronosrising.com/carnival-cruise-monster-super-predator/)
Also, Jeanne, many so-called dangerous wild animals have saved people. A group of lions rescued/defended a young girl from several wicked men, a sea lion saved a suicidal man, a deer fought off an attacker saving a woman, there was even a beaver that comforted an orphan boy while keeping him warm, and even a giant sea turtle saved a woman's life while a little turtle on his back kept her awake. Like Chris says God can give an order to allow a crocodile to eat a wicked person, can't the opposite be true.
Also, Jeanne, I thought of another creature to use, its names is Australovenator. They have been in seen in Australia and are called Burrunjor by Aborigines. From all descriptions, they are fearless of people and have taste for cows along with native animals. I hope you never have to run into one, Jeanne.