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General Category => Bible Discussion => Topic started by: anvilhauler on January 07, 2019, 02:51:18 AM
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It is interesting when reading Matthew that Jesus took the infirmities and sickness on Himself before the crucifixion rather than just saying the word and the sickness was forced to leave those afflicted with no cost to Himself. Hence, those healings were already coming at His own personal expense. Later we can say that by His stripes we are healed but that is of course after His scourging and crucifixion.
Matthew 8 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever. 15 And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them.
16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: 17 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
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I'm not sure what you were trying to say, but I think you misunderstood the context of those terms. The phrase "took our infirmaties" means that He took them away. The phrase "bare our sicknesses" is not 'bear', meaning to carry a burden, but 'bare', which means to strip them away. When the Bible says that "by His strips we are healed," that is referring to our spiritual healing, not physical, otherwise, no Christian would ever get sick; so I'm confused about what you're trying to teach in your explanation.
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Actually, the word bare is the old past tense form of bear.
BARE, the old preterit of bear, now bore.
In order for the definition you used to make sense, it would have to be bares or bared. (When the Bible uses this definition, it says make bare or made bare.)
Isaiah 52:10 The Lord hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
Isaiah 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
That being said, I still don't believe Christ actually took peoples' sicknesses upon Himself, so I'm not sure exactly what is meant by this phrase.
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Alright, that makes more sense, but then that means that the word 'sicknesses' there is not referring to physical ailments, but spiritual, as we can see from 1Pe 2:24.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
-1 Peter 2:24
Either the physical sicknesses were lifted off of the Jews, which is what He did, or if he bore anything, it was for spiritual healing, not physical.
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Good points and good to have the matter clarified. My misunderstanding to the extent to which the term to "bare" might have entailed.