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Bible Discussion / Re: Jehovah or Yahweh? The KJV is on the line.

« on: July 02, 2023, 06:04:21 AM »

Hello CLE, I hadn't thoroughly read your guys' about page, and after reading it fully, I would like to thank you for your biblical doctrine and reassuring words. I try to post these random topics, but I am a hypocrite for not addressing the root problem. After much prayer and reading of scripture, I have realized that I am still a false convert and do not have the holy ghost in me. I haven't read the Bible fully, and if it had not been for you guys, I would not have known what repentance is. I am praying for God to give me a repentant heart, and I know that I have said I have repented before, but that "repentance" was more likely emotion than anything else. I know that this is Christ's church, and I know that only those of Christ belong in his church, and I know that I must be a Christian before even thinking about joining your church. I know that I've done much wrong on this forum, and I've tried to justify myself, and have mentioned this many times, but I hope this time will be my final apology before I become a true believer of Christ. Thank you all for aiding me when you guys did, and I hope that I will be able to fellowship with you all if you guys would permit me to. Thanks

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Bible Discussion / Jehovah or Yahweh? The KJV is on the line.

« on: June 30, 2023, 04:07:23 PM »

There is some controversy whether YHWH is best represented by JEHOVAH or Yahweh.

I don't know what CLE believes, but I want to know what you guys think of this reasoning (that I found online) that leads to the conclusion that JEHOVAH is the correct representation of YHWH.

Revelation 16:5 in the KJV reads "Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be". Revelation 16:5 in any modern version reads "You are just in these judgments, O Holy One, you who are and who were".

Notice that "shalt be" is replaced by "holy one". This is because there is no manuscript that reads like the KJV. None.  Theodore Beza, one of the editors of the Textus Receptus, believed that all the Greek manuscripts were incorrect on this, and he himself added "shalt be" to the text.

And here is the interesting part: what Beza did only makes sense if God's name is JEHOVAH!  The root word of JEHOVAH is the Hebrew word HAVA, which means shall be. Remember what Beza added in Revelation 16:5? Shall be- the same root word. Beza correctly reasoned that it was odd that Revelation 16:5 did not include "shall be".

John probably originally wrote "shalt be" in the nomen sacrum form: ΟЄC. These three letters are the "compact form" of shalt be. But guess what happens when you take out the middle horizontal line of the middle letter? It becomes the "compact form" of holy one.

But this theory would only make sense if God's name is JEHOVAH. Even KJV only critics like James White agree that if what I just said is correct, the KJV is correct and the modern versions are wrong.

Also wanted to add that the name Yahweh is evil, and it does not belong in the Bible.

What do you guys think?

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Bible Discussion / Re: Discussing Churchianity Positions

« on: June 30, 2023, 03:34:29 PM »

Thank you for your long response. Yes, they don't want to change their ways, and this has been documented throughout the Bible.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Discussing Churchianity Positions

« on: June 29, 2023, 07:46:54 PM »

Hello, I'm sorry if I said anything that warranted rebuke.

When I try to talk to, say, a church treasurer, they will tell me that they are just managing the finances of the church. Is it just the title they have that is wrong?

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Bible Discussion / Discussing Churchianity Positions

« on: June 28, 2023, 04:23:38 PM »

Hello everyone,

I was watching Chris's teaching on denominations (part 1), and I noticed he mentioned that positions like church administrator and church secretary have no foundation in scripture and are anti-biblical.

I had never thought about this before, and it's pretty interesting. I know of many preachers who rebuke false churches for having positions such as archbishops, or having dioceses or whatnot, but they have different positions in their church which are unbiblical.

What I wanted to ask, though, is how can I go about talking to, say, a church secretary or administrator, and convince them that their position is anti-biblical. They would probably tell me that archbishops exercise spiritual dominance over others, but that they themselves do not exercise spiritual dominance and only manage church events, finances, etc… How should I go about with these responses? What would you guys say?

I also wanted to add that when Chris mentioned that denominational/pastor conferences are unbiblical (and I agree that they are), how can I convince one who attends these that they are unbiblical?

Thanks

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 20, 2023, 05:06:57 PM »

Great suggestion!

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 20, 2023, 03:59:15 PM »

I'll do that from now on. I didn't want to call him Chris because I was afraid that it will appear as if I was addressing Chris who owns this forum, and it's pretty stupid of me because I've addressed him as Chris in previous conversations.

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 20, 2023, 03:59:52 AM »

Well said, someguy85. I arrived at the same conclusion. No doctrine was analyzed, which got me wondering if this video had any basis for its claims. When analyzing someone like Rick Warren, it is clear that their doctrines are of the devil. It's not the same case with creation liberty, though. And if he were a mason, his book on Freemasonry is one of the best tools to debunk Freemasonry. It's also important to note that when that woman who was arrested by the police made that Illuminati hand symbol, she was doing that deliberately. That's not something one does when they are arrested.

With all those false Christian teachings you mentioned, like Mormonism or "Christian yoga", it's interesting that the "early church fathers", as pagan and heretical as they were, were aware of things like "Christian yoga" and stated that Christians would never do these things. I used to think that most of this false stuff erupted only in the past couple of centuries but to my surprise, they've crept in for the past 2,000 years.

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 19, 2023, 11:20:44 PM »

Hello Caleb, I agree with your points. I have this habit of just taking any accusation to anyone as one that ought to be addressed, and it's a pretty stupid habit. This video was indeed stupid. I would see why anyone would make videos like these unless they don't want to hear the truthful doctrine that one is teaching.

I apologize for posting this, and if any moderator sees this, please delete my post. I'm pretty gullible for even posting this even though I didn't believe any of it one bit.

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General Discussion / Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 19, 2023, 07:17:27 PM »

Note to Chris: I wouldn't mind if you deleted this post, as I'm not seeking to defame you, but this accusation video was used by a friend to label you as a false teacher, and I feel that it must be addressed as it is the first video that comes up when one searches up your full name.

Hello everyone,

I was sharing one of Chris's video teaching with a friend, and he replied that it has been documented that Chris is a false teacher, and told me about a video.

Apparently, if you search up Christopher J.E. Johnson on youtube, this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7G_H8TtEcE, shows up as the very first result on youtube. I don't know if this video has been addressed before, but it apparently attempts to expose Chris by stating that he makes the same hand symbols (with satanic connotations) that the men he exposes make.

It's probably made by an enemy who you've been acquainted with because he knows a lot about you and has scoured a majority of your videos.

I find this odd for a couple of reasons.

1) This channel accuses Chris of using a Jehovah's Witness painting of Eve and the snake for his Feminism teaching and somehow using this as proof that he is a false teacher. This is odd because Chris's article on Jehovah's Witnesses is one of the best on the internet, and he thoroughly debunks them.

2) Chris's doctrine contains, as far as I've checked, no inconsistencies with the Bible. In fact, it goes against most of what false teachers spew out. They aren't some conjectures or ecumenical statements.

That's why I don't agree with this video that Chris is a false teacher, but it is the first video that comes up when one searches for Chris's full name, and it did draw away a potential viewer of one of Chris's videos.

If you ever get a chance, Chris, I would appreciate it if you would address the claims made in this video (namely that you make the same hand symbols (with satanic connotations) that the men you expose make).

This is probably the only video that seeks to expose you, and I believe it would be beneficial to address it.

Here is the link to the video once again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7G_H8TtEcE

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General Discussion / Re: May I return?

« on: June 14, 2023, 03:21:45 PM »

Hello Tonya, thank you for your reply. I see my error, but I'm so deep in this error; may God please forgive me. I hope you guys will forgive me.

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General Discussion / Re: May I return?

« on: June 13, 2023, 03:09:58 AM »

Hello Annalisa,

Thank you for your lengthy and thoughtful response.

I hope this is helpful.

Yes, this post was very helpful. I wouldn't have expected a response like this, but I praise God that you gave one.

I understand that you want to go to a forum where you can discuss doctrine with born again believers, but before all that happens, it's really important that you address the most serious issue at hand and that is your salvation and how you understand repentance.  This is a conversation between you and God.

I completely agree with you on this, and this is something that I did not understand nor display when I was participating in the earlier months. My posts on 9/11 and the moon were irrelevant both to the forum and generally to Christianity itself, especially when, as you said, there are more serious issues on hand. I tricked myself into talking about "more important" subjects when all I did was show my true colors, and I understand how I was at mistake. If only I cared about God more than I cared about worldly subjects, but all my false conversion showed was otherwise.

What makes the time you said: ... any different from the time you said: ...

The only difference is that I lied for one of them, and I am ashamed for doing that to this day.

Since reading the conversation between you and Chris, it has given me more insight and I can see that Chris has been very patient with you in trying to point out your contradictions and lead you to more understanding.  It's easy to see that he had done all that he could for you.  Saying anything more to you would have just been redundant.  I hope that you can see why he didn't continue a conversation with you.  It would have been pointless.  You weren't hearing or understanding him.

I agree with you. I just hope that he will give me another chance. I did not have the holy ghost when I implied that I did, and I regret my actions.

So, I really hope that you come back and read this.

I'm usually on the website daily, but don't check on the forum as often anymore, although I hope that I will be able to join back through your guys' kindness and mercy (as I'm someone who has lied and deceived before). The more I read Chris's articles, the more hungry I get for discussions, applications, and questions. I really miss this forum!

Thank you for your long response, Annalisa, and I hope to join this forum again. If I can get any confirmation from a moderator, I will appreciate it. I know this forum is not my property and is paid for by Chris, and as someone who has lied and been deceptive, I don't deserve to be here at all.

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General Discussion / May I return?

« on: June 01, 2023, 12:31:17 PM »

Hello everyone,

I know I have been rightfully ignored, but may I please join this forum again? I have repented of my sins, and I believe this quote from the Bible, Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new., displays that I will be able to become a new person in Christ. Can anyone please give me a response on whether or not I can participate in this forum normally again? I would greatly appreciate it if I would get a response!

Thank you.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: New Introduction

« on: May 07, 2023, 01:48:22 PM »

Hello everyone, you guys could all disregard my previous posts. I’m leaving this forum, and I don’t expect (nor do I deserve) a response from you guys, unless you guys would give one to me and allow me to participate (which I assume won’t happen). I apologize for trying to join once more, and I wish you all peace. It was nice knowing all of you, and I thank each and every one of you for answering my questions, no matter how off-topic they were. Thanks

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Introduce Yourself / Re: New Introduction

« on: May 07, 2023, 01:32:42 PM »

Would you guys allow me to return to this forum at a later date to try and participate again? Thanks

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Introduce Yourself / New Introduction

« on: May 06, 2023, 07:00:32 PM »

Hello everyone, my name is Daniel, and as all of you know, my responses and posts did not reflect the nature of one who repented in Jesus Christ, and I deceived, lied, and caused contention amongst you Christians.

I know I've been ignored when I've redundantly apologized due to the lack of weight my apologies carry (i.e. they didn't mean anything as I kept repeating my excuses), and I repent for all of the lies, deception, and contention I've caused on the forum. I repent for all I have done, and for lying to you guys and to Jesus Christ, and I assure you that my repenting is not one akin to Hebrews 12:15-17. I know my words have no weight due to my past lies, but I will hope to demonstrate it by doing works meet for repentance (Acts 26:20). I have repented in Jesus Christ after looking back at my deception and sin two months ago.

My beliefs are the same ones I proclaimed in my original posts, although I know that the crafty tongue (i.e. proclaiming my beliefs without keeping the commandments) I displayed only exposed myself as a false convert. I did not follow Jesus's words of If ye love me, keep my commandments.

I don't really know what my original intent was for joining this forum, but I will proclaim my new and true intent: to fellowship with Christians and to utilize the forum not for my own sinful "profit"/wisdom, but for a greater clarification of biblical doctrines when needed.

I've researched the Bible/biblical doctrines multiple times, and no matter where I go online, CLE always has done the most research and includes the most biblically accurate material.

I don't know if I am shadow banned, blocked, or anything like that on this forum, but I hope you guys will see this new introduction and take it into consideration.

Thank you very much

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General Discussion / Re: Apology

« on: May 04, 2023, 03:56:48 PM »

Hello everyone, it has been about two months since I was active on this forum. I've been looking over my past posts, and I apologize for my wrongdoings. I know that I've apologized before and that my apologies don't really mean anything anymore, but I hope that you guys will accept mine this time. I also apologize for deceiving myself and others regarding my repentance, and I hope that you guys believe me when I say that I've since repented for my sins (including my deception and contention). In the past months, I've been researching various "Christian" doctrines that I believe are false but have no way of telling for sure, in part because there is not much information on them, because the information online supports the given doctrine, or because the online sources are vague on the matter on purpose to appease both sides. From what I've observed, this forum does a spectacular job of proving these false doctrines wrong with scripture.

I recently came upon these verses: "As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife... When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart." -Proverbs 26:21,25. I apologize for being this very man ever since I registered on this forum. I caused strife, and my speech could not make up for my sin. In fact, I believe that most of Proverbs 26 applied to me.

I thank everyone for answering my previous questions, and I would appreciate it if you guys would allow me to ask questions regarding these false doctrines. Thanks

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General Discussion / Re: Apology

« on: March 04, 2023, 03:24:28 PM »

Hello Chris,

Thank you for your response. I'll leave the forum starting this second.

"Personally, I do not believe that you are a Christian.": That's true, and I apologize for deceiving all of you (everyone on this forum I came in contact with). I admitted to being a false convert.

I just have one question: In the coming years, would you allow me to return to this forum (and perhaps join your church)? I detest my reputation as a false convert, and I want to erase that (through prayer, repentance, and being born again in Jesus Christ). Through my "journey" with Jesus Christ, I am hoping to be born again a new person in Him. I understand that I don't belong here on your platform, but please let me know if you'll allow me and give me a chance. I know I've been turned away, but I hope it will be different next time.

Thank you

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General Discussion / Re: Apology

« on: March 04, 2023, 03:35:29 AM »

Hello moderators,

I just want to know if you any of you by grace will allow me to continue to engage in discussion/participate on this forum. I noticed my first response after my apology got rebuked a great deal through the edify/rebuke rating on the forum, and was wondering if anything I stated in that response warranted rebuke (or if it was my general presence on this forum after my apology; please correct me if I say anything wrong).

Thank you

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Bible Discussion / Re: A Time In The Wilderness

« on: March 03, 2023, 05:21:13 PM »

Why am I just getting that now?

I can only speak generally on this, but, sometimes our understanding is unlocked by the Holy Ghost when we sanctify ourselves from worldly things.
The more we are sanctified the more he helps to understand his word.
I see it as a reward for doing what pleases him.

That is true. I can testify to that happening to me as well.

I have felt the same way recently (and I know it's true because God "closes" the minds of those who reject his word or have no interest in it). For example, I would have never thought of applying Genesis 1 to my own life until a few days ago when I started reading the Bible from the beginning and sanctified myself from delving deep into worldly topics (anything unrelated to the Bible/Christianity such as politics) as I had done all of my life. I'll never see Genesis 1 as just the history of the universe again (although it absolutely is), but also as the history of my born-again life as well. And I'll be honest, I've never fully felt comfortable with applying Bible passages to my personal life as I haven't agreed with alternative interpretations in the Bible (such as mythical), but I've recently noticed the difference between interpretation and application.