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Law/Legal / Re: Settled with the City of Murfreesboro
« on: June 26, 2020, 12:09:03 AM »
Easy payday for the lawyer. I'm glad they are doing some reforming because it is senseless for police officers to act that way, in addition to the fact that it costs the taxpayers money and wastes your time and the court's time.

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Law/Legal / Re: Settled with the City of Murfreesboro
« on: June 25, 2020, 11:02:40 PM »
I saw them agreeing to reform and educate, but what about restitution for the unlawful violation of your rights? What exactly did they agree to do?

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What's New @ CLE / (FAQ) Instructions to Help Users Join the Forum
« on: June 22, 2020, 03:22:18 PM »
There are people who have written me who are less tech-savvy than others. I have created a website FAQ to help people with step-by-step instructions with images to register on the forum in case they are having trouble.
http://creationliberty.com/faq.php#joinforum

I need to add one comment: If there is anyone out there that cannot follow or understand these instructions, I cannot help you. Registering for the forum is not much different than registering for an email or Facebook account, and a lot of people have those. This is just part of basic internet culture and understanding, and if you want to be on the internet, these are foundational things you need to learn. If you are unable to understand it, I'm sorry, but you may have to go elsewhere at this point because I cannot help any further than this.

If anyone out there has any limitations with the English language or computer understanding, then I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would provide for you the things you need wherever you are around the world, but at this point, there is simply nothing else we can do. I hope that helps.

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Yes, you read the title correctly. The following website is French (I think) and I was only reading it because of the Google Translate feature on Chrome.
https://www.hiram.be/les-francs-macons-vus-par-les-creationistes/
Ignoring the title of the site, which, in my eyes, was a comical reference to a recently deceased zoo gorilla, the comments were rather shocking, especially the person who made a comment directed at me:
"I even have the feeling that he is lost. I am eyeing Sirius' side,"

That is roughly said due to the translator, but if you read my expose on Freemasonry, Sirius is an Egyptian god, and in Freemasonic symbolism, it represents Lucifer/Satan. So in other words, his comment is claiming that I am lost with Jesus Christ and the account of Scripture in history, and that he will remain dedicated to Satan and his Freemason brethren.

Such statements are frightening, knowing the truth of what it means. These people are in need of prayer.

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General Discussion / Re: Falsely Accused by a Mysterious Stranger
« on: June 18, 2020, 02:03:57 PM »
It is interesting to see how many of these YouTube preachers have risen to fame by controversy, rather than doctrine. I've begun to see that more and more recently, so that's a point I need to take into consideration as I study Scripture.

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General Discussion / Re: Falsely Accused by a Mysterious Stranger
« on: June 18, 2020, 12:46:03 AM »
If that were the case, then he knows nothing about what I teach because if he listened on a regular basis, he would know that I would not care to do any such thing.
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
-Mat 15:14

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General Discussion / Falsely Accused by a Mysterious Stranger
« on: June 15, 2020, 01:59:51 PM »
I found this while I was google searching on some of the images on my website, and this guy's picture came up next to my name, which I thought was weird, so I clicked on it.
https://www.kingjamesvideoministries.org/forums/cults/christopher-johnson-creationliberty-com
It takes you to a forum post where a guy named "muckraker1960" said he had been in contact with me for discussion about Bryan Denlinger. If that is true, I have no idea where I would have logged that discussion (because I cannot find his username in my email), so this must have been years ago because I have not had anyone ask me about Bryan in a long time. Here is what the man said, and I'm posting this because I want you guys to see how deceptive this is:

"I listen to YouTube videos from both Bryan and Christopher Johnson. I have found both to be pretty much on the same page regarding most issues, including using the KJV and rightly dividing the Word of truth.

However, there is one topic they disagree on, and its the timing of the "catching away", of the rapture which it's more familiarly called. Bryan believes in a pre-catching away rapture, while Mr. Johnson believes in a post-trib rapture.

It's disappointing to not only hear that they differ on this topic, but that if someone doesn't agree with their view, that person's salvation comes into question and is called names.

When I asked Mr. Johnson if he could expound on why he and Bryan differ, I was met with ridicule and was treated like a non-believer.

This topic has me troubled and I was hoping someone could help shed some light on it for me. I'm a new believer.

Also was hoping Bryan might share on the topic, and on Mr. Johnson."


Okay, so looking briefly over the website, I'm guessing this is a site that is run or operated by Bryan Denlinger. The fact that this guy mentions Bryan by first name only was enough evidence for that, but the videos on the website are all Brayn, which pretty much confirmed it for me.

He signed his post with the name "Gary," so I looked up every past email I have from any Gary, and there is nothing about Bryan Denlinger in any of those emails. I checked Facebook too, even though I don't communicate through Facebook, and there is nothing in there either concerning anyone named Gary or anything on Bryan.

I mean, is he lying? I don't know. I even looked over all the past emails I have for years under anyone named Gary, and I did not treat anyone in any manner that I thought they were not a Christian. I have no clue what he's talking about.

It's disappointing to not only hear that they differ on this topic, but that if someone doesn't agree with their view, that person's salvation comes into question and is called names.
I know for a fact that Bryan has claimed that anyone who does not believe in a pre-trib raptured is not saved because I have heard him teach that many years ago in his videos. (Maybe he has changed his position in recent years, I don't know.) However, I have never made any such statement, but now I'm being lumped in with Bryan and accused of the same thing. In fact, I do not believe that I have ever stated that Bryan was not a saved Christian, but rather, I have questioned it due to the fact that he teaches a number of false doctrines, including his doctrine on repentance because he preaches the error that 'repent' means "to turn" or "to change," and rejects the Biblical definition of grief and godly sorrow.
Is Repentance Part of Salvation?
The fact is that Bryan is leavened, and we are supposed to cut out the leaven, not yoke together with it.
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
-Gal 5:9


When I asked Mr. Johnson if he could expound on why he and Bryan differ, I was met with ridicule and was treated like a non-believer.
Where? If it even exists, I can't find it. I wanted to know what Gary said, but again, I don't see it anywhere in my archives, and I save back everything I receive. The last time someone wrote me inquiring about Bryan was in May of 2019, and prior to that, it was 2017. So I have no idea who this guy is, and I have no idea if he's just making this up.

As a final note, I am not "post-trib" because there is no seven-year period of tribulation; I have recently corrected that, see here: http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=919.0
I believe Christians will be rapture as Jesus told us, which is after the signs He gave us to look for in the season in which they occur, and before God's wrath is poured out into the world.

Ultimately, it sounds like Bryan caught another unsuspecting believer into following his false doctrines. I'm wondering if, one day, I might have to do an expose on Bryan, but I am not sure about it yet, both to expose him, and to correct misinformation floating around by others in false religious cults who false accuse Bryan, which makes the problem harder to discern.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Hovindite Whining #01
« on: June 09, 2020, 02:58:29 PM »
I have not received anymore yet, but I have gotten letters every now and again from dedicated fans of all the Wolves in Costume I've written about. The letters will come with time. I'll just wait.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (BOOK) Wolves in Costume: Kent Hovind
« on: June 08, 2020, 07:08:25 PM »
If you keep reading, you will see that I contacted the sheriff's office, and spoke with Jones, and he said he doesn't allow anyone to quote him. I was simply including her testimony, but could not verify it.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (BOOK) Wolves in Costume: Kent Hovind
« on: June 08, 2020, 05:16:21 PM »
I already took care of it.

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Bible Discussion / Re:Analysis of Brian Moonan's Repentance Teaching
« on: June 07, 2020, 05:05:17 PM »
You can post on the original if it's old, it's just that everyone will have to go back and get the context of what was said. The problem is that, if you are posting a response to an old thread separate from the old thread, no one has any links or references to go read the original thread to know what you're talking about.

We can wait for your reply from Brian, but others on our forum have contacted him before, but he will not hear. If you want to give it a try, go for it; you never know. I'll be interested to read about your conversation.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Hovindite Whining #01
« on: June 07, 2020, 12:13:05 PM »

AARON WRITING FROM DINOSAUR ADVENTURE LAND IN ALABAMA:

You should call or email Kent Hovind and schedule a time to discuss your accusations against him. It would probably be the best thing for you and your "ministry" to do before you die or survive long enough to see Jesus's return. I'm telling you this because I care for you and I don't believe you are remotely close to being a devout born again Christian. Just an observation I discerned. I hope you do the right thing and get right with Lord Jesus by getting right with Kent Hovind!


You should call or email Kent Hovind and schedule a time to discuss your accusations against him.
There is no need because the Bible gives us instruction on these matters. I do not know if you have interest in the Word of God or not, but would you like me to explain to you the Scripture to help you understand? Although, the strange thing is that I provided that Scripture and explanations in my book, so did you read it? What specifically in my book did you find to be incorrect?

It would probably be the best thing for you and your "ministry" to do before you die or survive long enough to see Jesus's return.
It would probably be the best thing for you to READ the book before answering it.
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
-Pro 18:13


I'm telling you this because I care for you and I don't believe you are remotely close to being a devout born again Christian.
It's very hard to judge righteous judgment by only reading the title of the book.
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
-John 7:24

I'm telling you this because I care about you, and you have not yet provided any evidence to me that you are remotely close to being a devout born again Christian.

Just an observation I discerned.
As a devout Hovindite, I am somewhat surprised that you do not understand the definition of "observation." What you just wrote were your feelings and opinions, not observation, and so it's important to discern between those two things, otherwise, it is very easy to be deceived by men like Kent. I want to be clear about this so you do not waste your time: I do not care about your personal feelings and opinions; I care about the truth. I have presented the facts to protect the church from men (like Kent) who seek their own gain.
Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
-Isa 56:11

If you do not want to read those facts and take heed those warnings, that is your business, but if you choose to lie and tell people that you have made observations, then you will be held accountable for those things:
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
-Mat 12:36

I hope you do the right thing and get right with Lord Jesus by getting right with Kent Hovind! 
Wow. Can you not see how far removed you are from the Word of God right now? You just made "getting right with Kent" the equivalent to "getting right with Christ." There is no verse in Scripture that says "If thou shalt yoke together with Kent Hovind, thou shalt be saved." Kent Hovind is NOT the way, the truth, and the life.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
-John 14:6

You are literally putting Kent on the same level as Christ in your mind and your words, and that is exactly what all religious cults do. Fear God and depart from evil.
For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
-Isa 66:2

After reading all your vague accusations and self-righteous words, it is clear to me that you are a student of Kent Hovind. It's sad, and I want to help you, but I cannot make anyone read or listen.
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
-Gal 4:16

You can say whatever you want about me; that's fine, I'm used to that. If the Holy Spirit ever opens your eyes to what is going on behind the scenes, you can always come back and talk with me if you want, but for the sake of you and the others at DAL, please read the book.


Interesting. So I have discerned correctly. You definitely are not a Christian. You're working for satans kingdom and have rotten fruit if any. Satan also uses scripture to deceive people like you are. Very manipulative and self righteous you are. Nice try buddy. You've been warned. And since you will not work with love or understanding I will be sure to warn people about your name, who you are, and your "ministry". Have a great day. Better repent and get right with Jesus because you certainly are not saved. Again, you've been warned. What you do with this message is up to you. I will not open any further emails from you until I hear or see evidence that you have repented and made amends with Dr. Kent Hovind. God speed!

END OF DISCUSSION

I am not writing him back because he did not say anything new. He just repeated himself, and was also repeating back things I said to him in a childish manner of "I know you are, but what am I?" One of the important things I want to point out is that he never answered my question about what in the book he found to be incorrect, and that is because he never read it, and the Bible says in Proverbs 18:13 (as I quoted in the article) that Aaron is foolish and should be ashamed of himself.

Aaron's final words also show us that he does not understand Scripture either, which is, sadly, a common factor among those who volunteer for Kent and DAL. Aaron stated clearly that he believes I am a false teacher because he believes I am not a Christian, and he also believes that I work for Satan, but then he said, "God speed!" The problem is that, in his hypocrisy, this makes him guilty of the same things he is accusing me of doing because, according to Scripture, he is not supposed to wish me God speed:

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
-2Jo 1:9-11

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I know this isn't getting much attention right now, but I suspect it will in the future. Dedrick and I have been going over some of the videos coming out back and forth between Kent and Theodore, and we have caught Kent in a number of false accusations, as well as we have caught Theodore in a number of false accusations.

I do not follow either of their channels, but Dedrick keeps an eye on Kent from time to time, and last night, he informed me that Kent came out with a 45 minute video exposing Theodore. Of course, I know there were lies in what Kent and his group were saying. There are too many eye witnesses that have come out against certain things, and Kent is only covering his tracks.

However, there were a number of things Kent included in his video that called Theodore out on his false accusations, and they were some of the SAME THINGS I called him out on. So whereas Kent is a liar, and he still uses railing and false accusations, Theodore has ALSO used railing and false accusations in his videos, which gave Kent all the ammunition he needed to make a video on Theodore, and convince thousands of people that Theodore is deceptive.

It's Theodore's own fault, and I tried to warn him, but he does not want to listen to me.

There are a number of things that Theodore releases on his channel that I do not talk about in my book exposing Kent Hovind. The reason for this is because either the information was bad, or there was not enough collaborating evidence to support what some of the eye witnesses were saying.

This is why Jesus taught us:
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
-Matthew 18:16


Even in the Old Testament, crimes were not punished unless there were two or three witnesses that could verify what was happening. There are a number of things that have been said by some of the eye witnesses Theodore is interviewing who are the only ones saying those things. Do not misunderstand, it is not wrong to interview those people, nor to provide quotes from them, because I do the same thing in my teachings, but the difference between myself and Theodore is that I do not jump to conclusions about the matter, nor do I lie and falsely accuse others in order to get clicks and subscribers.

For example, there are some things I am tempted to cover in a video later on that will demonstrate how Theodore deceived everyone in a video he called, "Kent Lied About Jeffrey Dahmer to Make Money," and in it, he claims that Jeffrey Dahmer was not saved as he claimed to be on in a television interview. Theodore claims that Kent lied about it to deceive everyone into supporting his ministry.

The part that is believable is that Kent used that situation to help him get more donations and sell more DVDs; I have no doubts about that. However, when Dedrick and I analyzed the video, we looked up the references that Theodore was using in that video, and in summary, what Theodore did was take testimonies and reports about Dahmer two years prior to when he said he was saved, and used that against Dahmer to say that he was never saved.

If all of us were judged by the things we said and did before we were saved, none of us would be saved. Why Theodore thought it was good and responsible to judge a man's actions before he claimed to be convert, I don't know, but he is just making the entire problem worse, he is ruining his own ministry, and he's making my job harder.

It is possible that Dahmer was not saved, and that the entire thing was a media stunt. However, it is true that Dahmer watched Kent's videos because Dahmer's dad contacted Kent and told him it was Kent's seminar series. So Kent did not lie about that. On top of that, Theodore put more trust in the testimony of the man who killed Dahmer, and not only did that man kill Dahmer, he killed other people too. Theodore put all his eggs into one basket, or rather, he put all his trust into the testimony of one man who kills people on a whim. (I'm not saying that the murderer is lying, and perhaps his testimony was true, but we do not have the evidence to prove anything one way or another, and there were no other eye witnesses.)

Theodore does these things deceptively for click bait, and frankly, it's sickening. I want to believe that Theodore is saved Christian, but he is not acting like it, and I'm staying away from him as much as I stay away from Kent. Again, when there is leaven, we should depart. Theodore is leavened, he makes excuses for it, and will not repent.

I'm not sure what I will do yet, but I'm considering making a special video on that later to prove the point. I hope that it might lead Theodore to repentance because he is acting out of malice more than anything else because he let the sun go down on his anger.

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil.
-Eph 4:25-27

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (BOOK) Wolves in Costume: Kent Hovind
« on: June 03, 2020, 05:21:13 PM »
I just did an update on this for chapter 6, in which another man has come forward with his testimony about when he was on property at the time the seven-year-old boy drowned at Dinosaur Adventure Land. He talks about how Kent lied about what actually happened, how another boy almost drowned at the same time, how no safety precautions were taken whatsoever, and that while the volunteers and family were grieving over the loss of their son at the hospital, Kent was glad handing ER patients and passing out flier advertisements to visit DAL.

He had no grief at all for the loss of the boy, which is why the father of the boy packed up his family and left first thing the next morning. He also testified that security cameras have been install at DAL in recent days, but the problem is that they are NOT used to monitor the safety of DAL activities, but rather, they are positioned to monitor the DAL residents, so Kent can keep an eye on everything they are saying and doing, to make sure everyone obeys his commands.

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Well, it's not that he suggested both that was the problem, but it's that he suggested that maybe he needs to change, and then 0.4 seconds later said she needs to adapt, and then spent a long time explaining her problems, instead of looking inwardly at himself first. He gave no explanation on why "maybe he needs to change," which means they were words of vanity. He didn't mean them, and therefore it was deception, not reasoning.

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I think you got cut off from the quotation marks. Usually happens if you're using a smart phone.

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What's New @ CLE / (LOGO) CLE Logo Has Been Finalized
« on: June 01, 2020, 04:08:41 PM »
Lorraine and I worked together to create the new logo for the site, and we agreed on the Sword/Pencil design. It was based on the verse Heb 4:12, which says:
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
-Heb 4:12




The logo should now appear on the website, and if you cannot yet see it, on your computer, if you go to creationliberty.com, hold down the control key and press F5, it will do a super-refresh on the page which clear your temporary cache for that page and update all the new images.

You should be able to see it in quite a few places now, and the title at the top of the page should be much bigger and easier to read, including all the Scriptures. The forum has a new banner at the top, and you should see the icon on your tabs in your browser updated to the sword.

In the future, I will be including this on YouTube thumbnails so it will be easier to identify our videos from others in the list. I have been wanting to do that for years, but I could not come up with anything that I liked, but the Sword/Pencil design fit perfectly with what I'm doing in ministry, and with Lorraine help, we were able to create something I think we can make ourselves more easily identifiable.

Let me know what you all think of the new changes.

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In part 12, we discuss the three primary Biblical philosophies to look for in marriage, and how single Christians can meet other single Christians.

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In context, Jo did not understand the matter at hand. She did not understand why she was being arrested. She seemed to more understand what the judge was saying to her, but not what Kent was saying to her. She was arrested because of HIS actions, not hers. She was being forced to send letters she did not want to send at HIS command.

And then he tells her that she needs to adapt while she is incarcerated, and her first thought was not getting out of prison, rather, her first thought was their marriage.

That should begin to tell you everything you need to know about Kent.

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