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What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) Charismatic Gibberish vs Speaking in Tongues p5

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What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) Charismatic Gibberish vs Speaking in Tongues p4

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What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) Charismatic Gibberish vs Speaking in Tongues p3

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What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) Charismatic Gibberish vs Speaking in Tongues p2

« on: February 24, 2018, 02:06:48 PM »

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What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) Charismatic Gibberish vs Speaking in Tongues p1

« on: February 24, 2018, 02:05:50 PM »

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (BOOK) Feminism: Castrating America

« on: February 24, 2018, 01:05:23 PM »

I know a couple women in our church have written reviews for this book on Amazon, but there's actually another woman, who is not in our church, who wrote a review of the book, and I was surprised at how much she complimented what was written. I usually just get a lot of hatred. I want to share her review, but also remind everyone that is the Lord Jesus Christ which imparts knowledge and understanding to us, and that we would be subject to the lies of feminism if not for His grace.
By TexanCowgirl1776 on August 26, 2017
I was already aware of the problem of feminism in society today. BUT I have to say I didn't realize the DEPTH; the scope and the utter HATRED that feminists have for men. AND I had no idea how much this fascist ideology had spread in our schools and universities. This book documents these facts so very well. I even checked a few on a few of the sources for accuracy. Mr. Johnson is spot on! I remember about 35 years ago when my mom, after reading a book about the evils of feminism, asked me what I thought of feminism. My mom related that she was shook up when she read about the goals of feminism: to dance on the grave of capitalism. I told her not to worry that there was no way this was going to happen. 35 years later I have to admit the feminists are very close. Brother Johnson brings out the truth in his book about the evils of feminism and the hate against men and capitalism. How clever these people are hiding the real purpose of feminism behind university sounding terms. What a lie feminism is for women; our culture and our nation. Outstanding book. Highly recommend!

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Billy Graham's Dead: His Followers React #2

« on: February 24, 2018, 10:09:41 AM »

If anyone wants to know more about his error on the Greek, you can check this out:
How to Play the Greek Game
The best translation of the Greek New Testament we have today is in the King James Bible.
Why I Use The King James Bible

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Billy Graham's Dead: His Followers React #2

« on: February 24, 2018, 10:07:42 AM »

Stephen from Abilene
It is people like you that make me despise the Fundamental Baptist Churches.  You spread hate and lies about fine Christian men and women.   I am a Southern Baptist, very conservative.  Billy Graham was very clear that there was only one way to heaven.   Also, when I preach a city wide crusade, I invite everyone to participate. (Church of Christ, Catholic, whatever)   My reasoning is that I control what is preached (I preach what you preach),  I control all the counselors  (trained evangelical Christians) and I would rather have the seats filled with Church of Christ, Catholics, whatever, so that they will hear the true way of Salvation which is the 4 or 5 "fundamentals of the Gospel".    I have a lot of Fundamental Baptist Friends and about the time I decide to worship with them, I read a web site like you.   And the attitude or belief that the King James Version is the ONLY version is stupid and just dumb.   If you want to take a stand like that then advocate the GREEK VERSION!
My previous post was my true feelings about your web site and what you preach.  It was not intended to be hateful but honest about what appears to be a hateful spirit in you.  I am sure people say the same about me when I condemn homosexuality, etc.    But, a better discussion is to figure out "how you think".  How you come up with the silly idea about the King James Version.  (I do agree it uses the BEST GREEK and wish we had a modern version based on that Greek).  But how can you, a mere human, think you can judge that Billy Graham is in Hell???  The Bible says it is very simple.  "Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."    Honestly, you come across as legalistic as my Church of Christ friends.
I provided direct quotations with referenced sources, video of Graham making statements, and Scripture to back up everything I said, showing how Graham's doctrine opposes the Word of God. You provided a bunch of whiny opinions with nothing to back it up, so it's clear you don't know the facts or Scripture. The Christian God of the Bible doesn't care about your opinions, because you can only be saved if you are humbled to repentance (i.e. repentance is grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing), and that's how you gain a love of the truth.
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
-2Co 7:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
-2Th 2:10
You'll end up in hell with Billy Graham if you don't repent. At least I love you enough to tell you the truth and warn you of God's wrath to come. Graham's time ended; he faced judgment and hell, and the clock's ticking for you as well.
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
-Heb 9:27
You can't play church-ianity and enter heaven. I pray the Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming week, and I hope you have a wonderful evening.
There you go again, judging. 

How do you conclude that I have not repented of my sins?    I knew I was a sinner and I repented and turned my life over to Jesus.  But more importantly, I BELIEVED HIS BLOOD paid for all of my sins.  He is the only way by His resurrection from the dead and He is living in my heart at this moment.  So you did a lot of judging.  You come across that what YOU SAY is more important than what GOD SAYS.  I know that is not what you believe?   I am trying not to judge you.

You did not say one word about FAITH OR BELIEVE.   John 3:16    So I am to conclude that you have never placed your faith in Jesus?  Of course not, I would never do that.

 You did not say a word about CONFESSION  (confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus)    So am I to conclude that you have NEVER Confessed that Jesus is Lord?    Of course not, I would never do that.

You did not say one word about believing Jesus was raised from the dead!   So am I to conclude you do not believe that.   Of course not.

IF you study the BIBLE, Jesus said the word FAITH many more times than repentance.  You did not say one word about Faith.  The TRUTH is it is all of the above.   You must repent of your sins and place your faith in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  Then He is to be the Lord of your life.  I AM GOING TO HEAVEN ONLY because Jesus paid the price for my sins by His blood on the cross.  That is the bottom line.   AND THAT IS THE MESSAGE I HEARD FROM BILLY GRAHAM ALL OF MY LIFE!

AND if you have a "canned" prayer that includes all of the above, THAT WILL NOT SAVE YOU!   It is a heart issue.  It is being born again.   Repentance,  Belief,  Receiving,  Confession

ALSO, people do all of these things many different ways.  By praying out loud,  by believing and receiving in their heart,  by making it all public and repenting to live a life for Jesus,  by crying out to Jesus to save them.  However, if you are one of those preachers who says, "repent of your sins and say this prayer" you may be leading many to a false Christian life.
There you go again, judging.
As I said, you don't know Scripture, and you don't care. You're proving my point the more you write.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
-1Co 2:15
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
-John 7:24
We have a teaching in which we rebuke the hypocrisy of people like you who think Christians shouldn't judge anyone.
Unbiblical Cop-Outs: "Don't Judge Me!"
Yet, you have judged me in your letter, which makes you a hypocrite.
QUOTE: It is people like you that make me despise the Fundamental Baptist Churches.  You spread hate and lies about fine Christian men and women.
That's judging sir! You just hate RIGHTEOUS judgement from the Word of God because you hate and fight against the Christian God of the Bible in your heart. That's why you love Billy Graham so much, because you hate the Christian God of the Bible. If you loved the Lord God, you would love what I'm teaching because I teach from His Word, but you do not know or understand His Word, and you hate me for the same reason you hate God.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
-John 15:19 
You also judged me without knowledge.
AND if you have a "canned" prayer that includes all of the above, THAT WILL NOT SAVE YOU!
We don't teach that. You don't know what we teach, which is why you said "if," instead of looking into what we teach; if fact, it's probably the case that you did not even READ the our teaching on Billy Graham; did you? Do you at least have enough honesty in you to tell me the truth? You read the title, maybe opened it, maybe skimmed through it, and then answered us in your hatred; to which the Bible says is foolishness and you should be ashamed.
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
-Pro 18:13 
You don't even want to see or hear what Billy Graham actually believed and taught. You've simply judged us in your unrighteousness, but I have judged you and Billy Graham according to God's Word. You must repent (i.e. have grief and godly sorrow) of your wicked heart because right now, you're worshiping God in vain, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
-Mark 7:7
Until you come to repentance, you won't listen, and thus, I'm wasting my time. If one day you do repent, you know where we are. Have a wonderful day sir.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Question on Leviticus 17

« on: February 23, 2018, 12:06:31 PM »

Yeah, I've pointed that out to the Hebrew roots cultists. They say all are required to observe the Sabbath, but they don't follow the law of keeping the Sabbath. They say they don't follow those rules because they no longer do the sacrifices, but then I've asked them, "What about the peace offering?" I've never had one respond to that because they know Christ fulfilled the law in that there is no more sacrifice for sin, but there's no mention of the sacrifice for peace. Of course, we don't do sacrifices at all, but the problem is that they're hypocrites that don't understand the Word.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Billy Graham's Dead: His Followers React #1

« on: February 23, 2018, 12:02:53 PM »

Wednesday. Our article's being shared like crazy right now because now this is a political hot topic. It's a bit frustrating that they won't pay attention to it before he dies, so someone could preach the truth to him so he could come to repentance, but that's how the world works.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Billy Graham's Dead: His Followers React #1

« on: February 23, 2018, 11:43:15 AM »

I've been getting a lot of Billy Graham fans write me hateful and railing letters concerning our teaching on Billy Graham. If you haven't seen our teaching, you can read it here:
Wolves in Costume: Billy Graham
Harold from Alaska:
http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/graham.php
You're not only full of yourself, you're an idiot. Keep it up...
My response:
What you just said to me is what the Bible calls a "railer," which is one who claims to be of Christ, but resorts to evil words, curses, and name-calling. God says they are wicked in their hearts, and we are to sanctify ourselves from them:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat... Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
-1Co 5:11-13
I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming week, which is how the Bible says we should speak with railers:
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1 Peter 3:9
Peace to you and your household; have a wonderful day, and I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would give you repentance to the acknowledging of the truth:
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
-2Ti 2:25

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What's New @ CLE / (ARTICLE) Wolves in Costume: Billy Graham

« on: February 23, 2018, 11:20:20 AM »

I've completely renovated this teaching, cleaning it up, adding in past tense grammar (since he recently died), with much more Scripture and links, along with new quotations to further back up the facts I already had.
http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/graham.php

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General Discussion / Scripture Button is Back

« on: February 23, 2018, 10:28:22 AM »

I finally found the files to get the custom Scripture button back on the forum. It's the blue bible image button on your list of options above where you write your posts. Just press it, then insert your Bible verses, and it looks like this:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
-Gen 1:1

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Bible Discussion / Re: Question on Leviticus 17

« on: February 23, 2018, 09:58:32 AM »

Read the next verse:
To the end that the children of Israel may bring their sacrifices, which they offer in the open field, even that they may bring them unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest, and offer them for peace offerings unto the LORD.
-Lev 17:5

They would not wait to offer a sacrifice for sin, but do it right in the field, outside of the camp. They were then required to bring that sacrifice to the tabernacle afterwards, because, if you remember, not only does it belong to God, but that sacrifice also was to be given as meat for the Levites, and if it was sacrificed unto God, the meat belonged to them. (i.e. It would be a form of theft if they didn't bring it; meaning they were simply sacrificing it, and keeping the meat for themselves.)

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General Discussion / Re: What religion claims God is a woman?

« on: February 21, 2018, 09:50:33 PM »

I couldn't count the amount of times I've been unhappy with how I handled run-ins too. It's not just you, but it gets better as we become more tempered. All of us gotta' go through it. I still have run-ins in recent months I wish I could re-do.

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General Discussion / Brian Moonan's New Radio Station

« on: February 21, 2018, 02:34:26 PM »

Brian Moonan started a new internet radio station. I thought some of you might be interested. As I'm posting this, he's only got two episodes, but I firmly believe Brian is family in Christ together with us, so you can check out what he's got if you'd like. As a note, I'm not endorsing everything Brian says and teaches (e.g. he still uses the cross symbol on stuff he makes, which is pagan - I understand); I'm just letting you guys know his radio station exists, and I'll probably listen to some of it too.

TRUTH DEALER RADIO

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General Discussion / Re: What religion claims God is a woman?

« on: February 21, 2018, 02:30:54 PM »

I suppose my point was to say that we have the Word of God, which is the strongest evidence for anything on this planet. It's incredibly powerful. Thus, if we just learn to utilize the Word of God in such situations, we won't need a CLE forum link.

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Introduce Yourself / All New Members (READ THIS FIRST!)

« on: February 21, 2018, 01:54:45 PM »

Welcome! We hope you enjoy our discussion here at the CLE Forum. There are a couple things you should know before getting started:

As stated in the Registration Agreement that everyone electronically signed when creating an account, you must make a post in the "Introduce Yourself" section of our forum within 48 hours of registering, or you may have your account deleted. We only want active members joining, and if you simply want to read what's posted, everything on the public section of the forum is available for the general public to view, meaning that no registration is necessary to read.

Please don't just say "Hello." This forum is not an impersonal social media site. Keep in mind that we do not know who you are, and so writing a bit about yourself, your beliefs, how you found this site, why you joined, (if you claim to be a Christian, include the testimony of your conversion and salvation unto Christ), etc; all those types of details will help us get to know you a bit better, and we hope you enjoy conversing with born again Christians here.

Everyone else here has written introduction posts, and you can read them on the "Introduce Yourself" board. Here are examples of well-written introduction posts to help you get started:
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=34.msg184#msg184
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=959.msg7913#msg7913
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=835.msg6850#msg6850

If you are unfamiliar with how to make your first post, simply go to the Introduce Yourself board, and on the top right, there should be a button that says "NEW TOPIC." Click that, and it will get you started.

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General Discussion / Re: What religion claims God is a woman?

« on: February 20, 2018, 11:02:18 PM »

Paganism teaches that. Her "proof" likely would have been some fraudulent junk that would have been a waste of time. However, I have also been caught off guard many times, and every Christian will experience this. We ought to keep preparing ourselves to face those times, and we have to learn to be temperate (even keeled; not quick to emotional reaction):
Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
-1Co 9:24-26

Paul's talking about shadow boxers vs real boxers. Real boxers are far faster and stronger than shadow boxers, which is why people who take on opposition on a regular basis are far more adept at handling even off-guard situations because they practice it. Even when I talk with a person who tells me they are a pagan, I listen to them and ask them questions, then I tell them what the Living God says about what they do:
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
-Gal 5:19-21

The witches I've spoken with either get angry or uncomfortable. How to handle things from there just takes practice and experience.

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What's New @ CLE / (BOOK) Feminism: Castrating America

« on: February 20, 2018, 01:11:26 PM »

FEMINISM: CASTRATING AMERICA
How the Feminist Movement Has Destroyed the Liberty of Americans by Persecuting Men in the Family Unit
Feminists have taught us that women are oppressed, abused, and cheated in America, but the truth is the exact opposite. Women have been sheltered, protected, and valued to the point that the American woman is the most privileged creature to ever walk the face of the earth. This book documents hard facts to prove that feminism is abusing and destroying the already under-privileged men in our society, and they break down families through lies and manipulation.
http://creationliberty.com/store.php#3