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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introduction

« on: November 23, 2019, 10:37:30 PM »

The only very concerning issue is that Larry claims a strong belief in what is called "Universalism," and since (thus far) he has been unwilling to explain himself and define what he means, as I clearly said I wanted to give him a fair chance to do, as you can see here...
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=917.msg7545#msg7545
... I am MUCH more cautious of him, and I believe he's lying to himself and everyone else here.

OK, it seems my definition of universalism is different than yours. I made an assumption that you would give me a chance to explain. Rather than ask a question, You wrote the above arrogant reply.

 "When Thy [God's] judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world [everyone] will learn righteousness" (Isaiah 26:9) Shortly saying that God's judgments described in the above verse are not happening today because it is not God's will to have them happening now.

I do not think we will see eye to eye on this, I do not think I know it all, far from it. (1 Corinthians 13:11 KJV)  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
(1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV)  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
(1 Corinthians 13:13 KJV)  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

One other thing is the KJV was altered by preserve the divine right of kings.

It seems that for a lack of a better way to say it Chris is running a KJV cult. I say that because everything revolves around him. Chris I can no longer support you.  Please return my donation and delete this account.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "God in Three Persons," ????

« on: November 23, 2019, 09:58:20 PM »

OK what I was trying to express is that the song made mention of "God in Three Persons" in the first verse. However John 4:34 says "God is a spirit". So the point I was trying to make is that the song is not correct in light of the Bible. To that end I am done with this thread.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Did Jesus say that he drank wine?

« on: November 23, 2019, 09:48:25 PM »

This is the last thing I will say about this thread. I am sorry people took my research the wrong way, I really was trying to express what I knew about the subject. I really was trying to express what I knew about the subject.  It seems that the issue at hand it whether or not the water had something intoxicating in it. OK let me be very clear. I do not drink any wine , beer, coffee, soda pop, I am working on quitting tea.   I did this once before and my health improved greatly. This time it will be for good.  My end goal is to drink nothing but water. Everything listed above has something intoxicating it, be it alcohol, sugar, caffeine, or carbonation. When I say intoxicating the added substance does alter the mood of the person using it. My late wife was addicted to Coke a Cola.

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Law/Legal / Re: I am starting a new service dealing with injustice

« on: November 23, 2019, 09:12:16 PM »

I actually can see it quite clear. I once was entangled with the court system. I got bullied into a plea deal, that cost me 35 days in jail. I was asked by a retired lawyer friend of mine, What happened at the evidence hearing?  I said "what is that? That is when I found out everyone has a right to question the evidence at an evidence hearing.  I went back to court to correct the wrong. I claimed legal malpractice, I was granted this evidence hearing and the prosecution did not show up. Case was set aside. However, in the State of Nebraska one must apply for and get a pardon for something I did not do, to clear ones name. I am working on that right now. As for plea bargains they are only bargains for the state, because they do not have to prove anything. They are used in over 90% of cases. I had a business book that was about negotiations. It said he who offers a price first has the weakest position. As for charging people for help them I do not plan to do anything of the sort. I am retired, and  I learned a long time ago that it is God who supplies all I need.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introduction

« on: November 15, 2019, 11:10:05 AM »

I will try to express better what I mean. When I repented at age 7 I understood with what limited understanding I had at that time that I am a sinner. The preacher was one of the type I never see any more "hellfire and damnation" for those who fail to believe in Jesus Christ. Did this believing make me prefect? Far from it. Today I am still working out my salvation (Philippians 2:12 KJV)  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.(Philippians 2:13 KJV)  For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

I have had a hard life, that is for some reason things have happened that I do not understand. eg. My father died when I was three from injuries from a fire at work. My mother did the best she could, but squandered the money she got that was saved for my college education (it was gone by the time I was 11) I never had an allowance as a kid, if I wanted something I had to find a way to earn it. Sometimes even when I earned something I was not paid or given the prize I had worked for. eg A pastor made a challenge that if I were to read the Bible from cover to cover within a year he would take me camping ( I did read the Bible though that year 2 times).  He failed to keep his promise. When people challenge me that I can not do something because of my disadvantages, I do it anyway. eg In high school I set two records in football , and basketball that are still records today 40+ years later. I worked my way though college, I earned my degree with honors.  At the same time I had a disabled wife and two disabled children. After 24 years of marriage ( could have left after 3, because of the unfaithfulness of my wife, (Ecclesiastes 5:4 KJV)  When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
(Ecclesiastes 5:5 KJV)  Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
 ) I was divorced by my wife. I later found another woman who was much more Godly than the first one.  However 5 years ago she died. I could write more details, but this should be enough.   The only thing I know that God is using it to prefect me. (Romans 12:1 KJV)  I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
(Romans 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
(Romans 8:27 KJV)  And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
(Romans 8:28 KJV)  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
I know at times I can be a bit rough, I think it comes from my life experience. Mainly due to the pastor and my first wife I have come to despise liars.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "God in Three Persons," ????

« on: November 15, 2019, 10:13:41 AM »

Sorry I forgot the explanation This is the words of the hymn I was referring to about "God in Three Persons"  https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/6

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Bible Discussion / Re: Did Jesus say that he drank wine?

« on: November 15, 2019, 10:10:14 AM »

This is a link to a board that explains better what I am trying to express. https://www.puritanboard.com/threads/was-wine-mixed-with-water-in-biblical-times.61386/

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General Discussion / taking the log out of ones eye, before trying to get a speck out of someone else

« on: November 12, 2019, 02:35:40 PM »

(Matthew 7:4 KJV)  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
(Matthew 7:5 KJV)  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
I have noted that Chris teaches well, but rails on people (condemning them to hell) but he does not know their hearts. He also condemns doctrines like universalism yet there is not a study that backs up that claim. I can post biblical evidence of that doctrine, but it will most likely get me banned.

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Law/Legal / I am starting a new service dealing with injustice

« on: November 12, 2019, 01:24:36 PM »

When I was a child people who were elected to punish evil doers, used what was call discretion if they would file charges based on evidence.  Now days they file charges on everything, regardless of the evidence. Many people end up being convicted of a crime that in reality are not guilty.  These people use a system that includes an over used plea bargain that is overused. What happens is someone is charged with something minor like spitting on the sidewalk, then they also come up with 10 more charges that have no truth or evidence behind it. Then they tell the charged if we go to trial all these charges will send you to prison for 10 years. Then they offer to drop those 10 in exchange for a guilty plea on something they have no evidence. I went through this myself. After it was over, I was asked by my friend (retired attorney), What happened at the evidence hearing?  I asked what is that? He told me how to fix that and I got the charge set aside. I recently helped another person avoid an unjust 10 year prison sentence. When this person showed up for sentencing he was told his case was not on the docket.

If anyone wants my help I only ask for a donation.

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General Discussion / Re: Who BECOMES tax exempt?

« on: November 12, 2019, 12:56:59 PM »

To preface my post , please note I had a business for 30 years that prepared tax returns and coached people in how to plan finances for filing a return. I am writing this to explain why this alleged tax exemption is more of a red herring than reality. I had many clients over the years that had receipts for donations to many different organizations that were non-profits.  When I prepared a tax return there is a standard deduction. Last time I did a return it was around $10,000. About 98% of the time the deductions never exceeded the standard deduction. This covered donations, taxes, medical expenses, paid mortgage interest, ect.  From this information I stopped asking for receipts and donated cash when ever possible.

 Finally, I quit the business 5 years ago, not because of the money I was earning, but for the following. Came across some works of Joseph R. Banister, former IRS special agent. His job was to collect alleged taxes due. One person he was doing this to had not filed a tax return for over 10 years. Mr. Banister was told by the person he was attempting to collect, there was nothing in the IRS code that requires him to file a return. Bannister, because of his faith in God decided to actually check it out and he found out it was true. When he confronted his boss about this, they asked him to resign.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "God in Three Persons," ????

« on: November 09, 2019, 10:18:00 PM »

https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/6

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Bible Discussion / Re: Did Jesus say that he drank wine?

« on: November 09, 2019, 10:14:01 PM »

Your taking it out of context. Regardless if it was alcoholic or not. If you do the historical research you will see that I am correct. Proverbs 18:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Did Jesus say that he drank wine?

« on: November 06, 2019, 02:00:54 AM »

What you all all failing to understand is the historical context of this issue.  During the time Jesus was on earth. There was not any water treatment systems in use. other than putting a little wine (maybe 10%) into the water they drank. It was used as a disinfectant, not to get drunk. (1 Timothy 5:23 KJVA)  Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Not "God in Three Persons," but rather GODHEAD! (I'm stupid.)

« on: November 06, 2019, 01:51:39 AM »

I think your on the right path, to use the word person to describe the Godhead is leaven. John 4:23-25 King James Version (KJV)
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "God in Three Persons," ????

« on: November 06, 2019, 01:45:32 AM »

I have heard Chris say in referring to the God head ( and this may be an old teaching) the term person. I follow what the Bible says  John 4:23-25 King James Version (KJV)
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. The point I am trying to make is God is not a person.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introduction

« on: November 01, 2019, 09:21:01 AM »

I am still going through your site. As for repentance I repented and became disciple of Jesus Christ in 1967. which would make me believing in Jesus Christ at age 7. As I grew in my faith I have had many times to repent as I discovered things in the Bible that were not correct, in my life. There are two passages I key on as I continue to grow as a disciple.  (Luke 9:23 KJVA)  And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
(Luke 9:24 KJVA)  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
(Luke 9:25 KJVA)  For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
(Luke 9:26 KJVA)  For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

AND..(Psalms 101:1 KJVA)  A Psalm of David. I will sing of mercy and judgment: unto thee, O LORD, will I sing.
(Psalms 101:2 KJVA)  I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart.
(Psalms 101:3 KJVA)  I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
(Psalms 101:4 KJVA)  A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person.

I live the above everyday.  It is hard for me to find anyone who understand and live the above. Examples of the above is after my wife died I had 2 TV sets I got rid of both and have not missed them at all. As for denying myself and taking up the cross and following Jesus. I have lost many friends and family because I choose to do this. For example Halloween just got over; I preached to many about how evil it is, yet many people who claim to be believers continue to engage in this practice. One thing I have noted is that when it comes to the churches most preach the gospel, yet fall short in some way.  The Bible teaches to examine yourself which I do everyday. (2 Corinthians 13:5 KJVA)  Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
(2 Corinthians 13:6 KJVA)  But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates.
(2 Corinthians 13:7 KJVA)  Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.
(2 Corinthians 13:8 KJVA)  For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

I will also say this that I have been listening on this site and it is according to the Bible it is (my estimate) 98% spot on.  I have noted that there are some things Chris says that are not 100% spot on, which I will address later. I do know that none of us can get it 100% while living on this earth.  (1 Corinthians 13:9 KJVA)  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
(1 Corinthians 13:10 KJVA)  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
(1 Corinthians 13:11 KJVA)  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
(1 Corinthians 13:12 KJVA)  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
(1 Corinthians 13:13 KJVA)  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

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Bible Discussion / "God in Three Persons," ????

« on: October 30, 2019, 01:53:43 PM »

There are some music in the church that is not Biblical. "God in Three Persons, Blessed Trinity" Problem with this statement is the following verse. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

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Introduce Yourself / Introduction

« on: October 30, 2019, 01:31:50 PM »

Hello  I will attempt to introduce myself. I am a Christian, but I much prefer using to description of an disciple  of Jesus Christ Luke 9:23-26. I came to faith over 50 years ago. I have been in the study of God's word KJV for most of it. After going though the teaching about the different Bible versions I deleted many other translations from my Bible study software. I just finished listening to the explanation on voting and I am in complete agreement. I currently reside in Arizona. Last year I was needed back in my home state so I moved there and the State of Arizona canceled my voter registration.  I moved back to Arizona back in April. I have not, and now will register to vote. I find the only thing that came from my registration was I from time to time been asked to serve on a jury.  I do not have issues doing so, except most lawyers do not like me, because I choose to judge righteously, not by some unjust court rules that tell me to ignore the facts. To that end I tell them upfront that that is how I will do it, and they quickly dismiss me. One thing I do differently is when a topic is being discussed I follow what is written in the Bible.  This many times irritates people who claim to be Christian when they say something unbiblical, I quote what the Bible says word for word.  I am 59 years of age.  I am currently in widower status.  I lost my wife almost 5 years ago to cancer. I am going to put the following in bold as I want to emphasis something Please do not send me messages saying "I AM SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS" My wife died 1-2-2015, since then I have began to hate that phrase. This is because after a while I could tell it was only a knee jerk reaction, because they quickly changed the subject. Lastly if you know someone who has lost a loved one, the best you can do is to say nothing and give them a hug. I guarantee it will be well received. I have not looked at the sites teaching on the subject yet, but I think it would confirm the research I have done on cancer since my wife died.  Since I am done grieving for my late wife I am open to women that are virtuous, not one who have a Jezebel spirit.