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Wild Emails @ CLE / Brainwashed Hebrew Roots Cultist Accuses Me of Worshiping Homosexual Gods

« on: October 17, 2019, 10:00:50 AM »

I forgot to post this letter, which I received back in September, and I want to preface that I am very sharp with this man, as you will see. What he initially sent me was a neutral and vague letter, of which I have received many over the years from people who try to advertise themselves to me. It's basically an advertisement letter that they copy and paste to send to as many Christian (or seemingly Christian) websites so he can get more viewers. I never did that because I trusted the Holy Spirit to bring readers and listeners over time if I simply did the work; no special advertising necessary. I've never sent out letters begging for it, I've never paid for any advertising; I just ask that people share the materials if they find them helpful, and that's it. When someone writes me a personal letter, that is obviously directed towards me with personal conversation, I don't mind them sharing what they do in ministry, but the types of letters this Joshua guy sent me are only self-serving, and that's why I don't put up with him for very long.
I should also preface that he listed his name as "Joshua Blessed," and assuming his first name is Joshua (which I am now starting to question), I highly doubt his last name is "blessed." I believe Joshua Blessed is completely (or in part) a fake name he gave himself to hide his identity. To get an idea of who this guy is before you read these letters, on his website, he has a section for "Testimonies," but the authors are all listed as "Testimony," not revealing who these people are, and as you read them, you can clearly discern that it is the same person writing all these so-called "testimonies" because the writing style and errors are the same, so they're all coming from him, but he's not telling anyone that. Here's the first one I found at the top, which can be seen at the following link if you want to check it out:
https://prophecyofyahweh.com/my-encounter-with-mermaid-siren
"I have a dreadful encounter with > Mermaid/Siren which rose up from the toilet at night, as I urinated at toilet... and she would choke me by my throat to kill me. .. So, I learn from youtube, that the same encounter with Sirens / Demons has many godly men and you and yours may encounter also, be ready to resist and not be killed by Siren and dragged by her captive to Marine kingdom..... We have only one weapon to resist and defeat our enemy, that is > We must live a holy life by the power of the holy spirit, to become Yahweh's overcomers as in the book of Revelation, which will empower us to resist and overcoming Demons. The righteousness of the saints is: ' love righteousness and hate iniquity...'"

And for those of you who have the Holy Spirit and study the Word of God, that should tell you everything you need to know.
Here's the email exchange I had with him, and as you will read his letters, notice that you will see periods that look like this, with a space inbetween: ". .." -- what that indicates is that he is copying/pasting a portion of something else he has written, and then, after the period, he is putting two more dots to continue a thought, which is a pattern you will see in his letters. That's some of the evidence that points to a copy/paste email for advertising, especially since you will also notice that he does not respond to my initial letter at all; that is, he ignores what I write to him.
JOSHUA FROM VIRGINIA
Shalom my brother My brother, you have an eternal soul that shall never die in heaven or in hell. Wise know this and therefore seek the face of our heavenly father Yahweh before they die, but fools live like a dog and then dies like a dog. .. You must be born from above by Him, to be His !
HERE IS WHAT ALL FLESH NEED ! http://prophecyofyahweh.com/?p=1624 
If you want to know why you cannot see clearly (and how I know that you cannot see clearly), the answers are here:
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell
You have been deceived by the Hebrews roots cultists. Those who are a part of the Hebrew roots cult are not of Christ, and they are not my brethren because they believe in a different "christ" than we Christians believe in. I highly doubt your last name is "Blessed" which means that not only did you LIE in your letter to me when you gave your name, but also it makes what you say on your website a bunch of vain, hypocritical words when the very first thing you've said to me was deception.
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
-Pro 6:16-19
In addition, it's shameful that you had NO intention of communication of fellowship with your letter, because the fact is that you were just writing to advertise yourself. You should be embarrassed and ashamed, but I have encountered many people like this before, and all of them have lifted themselves up in their pride, none of them have accepted rebuke in humility and come to the grief and godly sorrow (i.e. repentance) of their wrongdoing.
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
-James 4:6
The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
-Psalm 34:18
There are other problems with your letter and contradictions I could have pointed out, but I don't think you'll listen anyway. Nonetheless, despite your deceptions, I hope you and your family have a great day and that you depart in peace.
Shalom Christopher.
# 1 Are you a born from above by Jeus ? if yes, please share your heavenly testimony..
#2 Do you live by the Bible ( the books) or by His holy spirit ? Answer honestly ..
Shalom Christopher.
This is what we call "flattering lips," that is, you repeat it over and over in vanity. You learned that from the Hebrew roots cultists.
They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
-Psa 12:2
You also just provided me evidence to see that this is an email that you copy/paste to a bunch of websites. If you want to know how I figured that out, ask me, but again, you should be ashamed of yourself.

# 1 Are you a born from above by Jeus ? if yes, please share your heavenly testimony..
Yes. Is this "stage #2" of your misspelled, poorly contrived copy/paste quest? If you want the information, it's on the website. Why did you go to the website to contact me if you had concerns about that? Why did not you just go read? This is a link to the About page, which can also be found by going to our website and clicking "ABOUT" http://creationliberty.com/about.php

#2 Do you live by the Bible ( the books) or by His holy spirit ? Answer honestly ..
That's a deceptive question. The Bible IS the Word of God sent by the Holy Spirit, and thus I live by both. What I don't appreciate is your "answer honestly" comment which presumes that I would lie. Again, you should be ashamed of yourself, but glory (i.e. boast) in your shame. (Phil 3:18-19)

Now, let's address the #3 you did not mention: Where is repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow) of sin? You won't read the teaching (that's obvious based on your vague response), but I'll give the link one more time just in case there is some hope:
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell
JESUS WARNED:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
-Mat 7:21-23
Why did Jesus say that? Click the link and learn because you are not in a position to be teaching yet until you learn what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is.

Now, that's how you respond to a letter. You didn't respond to my letter, which means this is not a conversation; this you talking AT me (through copy/pasted notes) in your pride, not having a conversation WITH me. Again, this is exactly how almost every Hebrew roots cultist I've ever met has acted towards me (i.e. with a "holier than thou" attitude - Isa 65:5), and if you are brainwashed so heavily into the Hebrew roots cult that you cannot stop doing it, then I don't have any interest in continuing to write you back because it's wasting my time. (i.e. I spend a substantial amount of time on my letters to people, and you don't.) Depart in peace, and have a great day.
Shalom Chris.
Thanks for your honest replyed.
#1  Now I  read your testimony " about", and I praise God for His mercy on you that finally you Repenteted...
Yet , I saw nothing of being baptized with the holy spirit  as > Act 2:4  And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Did you receive the baptism of the holy spirit since you Repent?  Yes or No ? ( Do not lie..OK?)
#2 At your website I read your carnal doctrine of Inspire only KJV Bible,  God word.... But, I understand you as a babe in Christ you speak as a foolish child. .., for I was a Bible worshiper as you in 1994.
#3 Hear me, I am not here to fight with you but to help you grow spiritually, that you may be a man of God and not a foolish babe .. Ok?
Therefore, put aside your fleshly babe pride and be humble and hear what I have to say to you > Go to my website and eat the spiritual food that you may grow and became the real man of God. 
www.prophecyofyahweh.com
Yeah, you're part of the Hebrew roots cult. We are not brethren. Go back to them if that is your choice. You have not understood the doctrine of repentance and remission of sins, nor will you hear. There's nothing more I can do; have a great day.
Shalom Chris.
#1 Why you did not answer #1 Q . ?
 I know why, for you have not received the baptism of the holy spirit as in > Act 2:4.
If you will humbly acknowledge it and then seek it by fasting and prayers, maybe you will get it .. OK?
#2 Shame on you idol worshiper of UK , KJV Bile.  Is your Jesus a Hebrew Messiah and he spoke a Hebrew or he is UK Messiah and spoke English?
 Does he has a Hebrew name >  Yahshua or  Greek > Iasus, or UK > Jesus?
#3 Today I visited your Facebook page and I saw your abominable worship of the gods of LGBTQ > pets; Dog, cat, pig, mice, rat,..
Can your idol KJV  deliver you or make you free from your Pagan idol > dog. ?
Repent means > Stop !  No more ! Quit !
Will you repent/stop worship the god of this world Devil ? No?
Do not die in your sins, but seek Repentance.   
Learn from my Facebook page > https://www.facebook.com/joshua.blessed.9
You teach false doctrine; you are not of Christ. You cannot control yourself either, so since you will not depart on your own in peace, I will have to block your email address. Have a great day.
END OF EXCHANGE (because I blocked his email address)
In order to understand the last letter he sent me, you need to know that he sent me a list of images. He went onto my Facebook profile and saw that I had a picture of me and my wife with our dog when he was a puppy. He then concluded by saying, "I saw your abominable worship of the gods of LGBTQ" He took the picture of Lorraine and I with the puppy, and he put it next to an sodomite parade where they were walking around with dog collars on in sexual leather outfits. I'm not kidding; that's what he sent me. Now do you understand why I blocked him?
Though I pointed him to my "About" page, if you go look at his website, you cannot find hardly any information on him at all. It's also very difficult to figure out what he teaches because there is little-to-no organization on his site, but the one key thing I noticed about his site is that he almost never defines the terms he uses, and as I've said many times before, beware any so-called "ministry" in which a man does not define the words he uses. (Oh, and by the way, my position on baptism is on the About page, and I have been baptized, but he's so obsessed with works-doctrine, that was his first objection.)
Again, this guy is a part of the works-based Hebrew-roots cult. He teaches the same things they do, like if you do not keep the Sabbath, you go to hell. I just checked his Facebook account, and he has an image on it that reads:
"The real 'Repentance' or BORN-AGAIN experience is when all your heavy burdens (transgressions/sins) have fall off your back at the cross of the Messiah YAHWEH/YASHua."
However, in his letter, he says it means to "turn from sin." Not only does he not understand repentance, but then he contradicts himself by claiming it is multiple things that it is not.
Of course, we understand the Word of God and know that is not what repentance is. Repentance is grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing (CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE), but he is describing it on his Facebook profile as forgiveness, and I have heard that said before by other people who did not understand the doctrine of Christ. The reason he does not understand is because he has only changed the outward man, but not the inward man (as can only be done by Christ), and I wanted to post this as an example, to show Christians how dangerous the Hebrew-roots cult is, and why you should stay away from them; if you fellowship with them, you will soon find yourself leavened and repeating the same nonsense.

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« on: October 14, 2019, 03:17:31 PM »

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« on: October 07, 2019, 02:43:16 PM »

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Nevada Man Attempts to Justify 501c3

« on: October 05, 2019, 04:46:47 PM »

CHRIS FROM HENDERSON (which I was left to assume was in Nevada, which is just outside of Las Vegas):
You seem like a nice enough guy. Do you understand the damage your are causing?26 U.S. Code 6012. requires (with some exceptions) to pay taxes ( just ask Kent Hovind, he knows all to well). There is no doubt truth in what you say. There are indeed some very wicked people who take advantage of 501c3, and I admit the system is not ideal. Still, there are many fine, dedicated and Godly men who serve in 501c3 churches.
I find it ironic that you claim to teach pure scripture, while at the same time living in active rebellion to God's word, not being a local church member. If I am wrong about you attending church, I apologize.
You are a smart guy, but you drunk too much of the conspiratorial Kool-Aid on many things. In this respect, you are no better then Steven Anderson. I commend you in you desire to serve Christ faithfully, but I also urge you to be factual, have some common sense, conduct solid research, and just use some simple logic when weighing arguments. You have bought into too many bad arguments solely because of your tradition. Your were taught something, you liked it and have never questioned it.
I beg you to throw away all your preconceptions and start from scratch with the bible. Go line by line through scripture, utilizing all the manuscripts and tools we have. Examine the church fathers and the other theologians throughout history and see what they say. BUT examine these sources and documents for yourself, don't trust what someone says about them. Do the work yourself. I promise you, at the end you will see; A lot of what we have been taught comes from bad hermeneutics/ exegeses and is retained simply cause of tradition. Please...just do the research and see. If you are truly a man of God and you truly love Christ, then you will examine your teachings and you will seek truth. You have some great material but you are in some serious error on other areas.
You seem like a nice enough guy.
Chris, let's be straight-forward; that's just vain, flattering lips intended to deceive. I haven't read any of the rest of your email yet, and I can already see it. Let's stop playing games; I prefer to speak with people who are open and honest, and tend to avoid those who speak with a double heart in deception.
Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
-Psa 12:1-2

Do you understand the damage your are causing?
What specific damage are you referring to? Because if I am truly "causing damage" as you are implying, then you should file a lawsuit against me to get restitution for damages. However, if there are no damages, then perhaps you should be careful about falsely accusing (i.e. lying about) others.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
-1Ti 3:1-5
God Does Not Justify Lies

26 U.S. Code 6012. requires (with some exceptions) to pay taxes ( just ask Kent Hovind, he knows all to well).
No sir, you need to go to 26 U.S. 6012 and actually study it out, instead of writing me to whine about your personal feelings. That is for individuals who produce INCOME, and therefore, you need to look up the legal definition of 'income', which has nothing to do with individual wages, but rather, gain by corporate activity through business transactions, and when spoken of in the context of "individuals," the word 'income' refers to that of "revenue" in terms of corporate business.

Since you are obviously ignorant on this issue, and (based on your lazy manner of writing a vague email) are too slothful to actually go do some work to find out the truth, I'll help you by quoting Black's Law Dictionary:
"The return in money from one's business, labor, or capital invested; gains, profit, or private revenue. Braun's Appeal, 105 Pa. 415; People v. Davenport, 30 llun (N.Y.) 177; In re Slocum, 109 N. Y. 153, 02 N. E. 130; Waring v. Savannah, 00 Ga. 99. 'Income' means that which comes in or is received from any business or investment of capital, without reference to the outgoing expenditures; while 'profits' generally means the gain which is made upon any business or investment when both receipts and payments are taken into account. 'Income,' when applied to the affairs of individuals, expresses the same idea that 'revenue' does when applied to the affairs of a state or nation."
https://thelawdictionary.org/income
The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
-Pro 15:28
Furthermore, Kent Hovind was not sent to prison for not paying taxes. All you have done in this letter is prove that you have no clue what you're talking about, and you need to start studying before you write letters like this because you're embarrassing yourself. The following link is a teaching I did exposing the false doctrines of Kent Hovind, and in that, at the beginning, I go into detail about what he was sent to prison for, and why:
Leaven Alert: Kent Hovind
Finally, I would add in that you need to stop being vague because you are implying that I don't pay taxes. I don't appreciate that because I pay my taxes, but if you're involved in 501c3, then you are not paying your taxes; rather, you're trying to avoid them, causing the rest of us to pay more (which you would understand if you actually studied the teaching I did on this subject).

There is no doubt truth in what you say. There are indeed some very wicked people who take advantage of 501c3, and I admit the system is not ideal. Still, there are many fine, dedicated and Godly men who serve in 501c3 churches.
So not only are you ignorant on the topic of 501c3, but also ignorant of what Jesus taught about leaven, and again, that shows me that you didn't bother to actually read or listen to the teaching I did on this subject. Are you at least going to be honest enough to admit that?
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
-Pro 18:13
Because you write this in ignorance without checking out the information first, that leads me to question what your letter is really about. Though, I doubt you will be honest with me since you were giving me vain, flattering words at the beginning.

I find it ironic that you claim to teach pure scripture, while at the same time living in active rebellion to God's word, not being a local church member. If I am wrong about you attending church, I apologize.
Don't lie; you're not sorry. You chose to falsely accuse me instead of asking me first. You could have just asked, "Chris, are you part of a local church?" and I would have answered, "Yes." I won't bother to give any details because I know you don't care. You chose not to do that because you want an excuse for me to be in "active rebellion," so you can justify yourself, and that's what's leading me to believe that you're in some position of 501c3 church building leadership; that sound about right?

You are a smart guy, but you drunk too much of the conspiratorial Kool-Aid on many things. In this respect, you are no better then Steven Anderson. I commend you in you desire to serve Christ faithfully, but I also urge you to be factual, have some common sense, conduct solid research, and just use some simple logic when weighing arguments. You have bought into too many bad arguments solely because of your tradition. Your were taught something, you liked it and have never questioned it.
Wrong again: I'm not "smart." I'm a useless idiot who has been saved, and been giving blessings from God who called me to teach. At this point, I'm laughing a little bit to myself because, in your email, you haven't presented any facts, common sense, solid research, or simple logic, whereas I provided a lot in my book. My work speaks for itself. So because you did not provide that which you are demanding of me, your accusations are not only false, but hypocritical, meaning that you're a man who puts on a false outward appearance so he can deceive others into thinking he's clean on the inside:
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
-Mat 23:26
That leaven (i.e. false doctrines that come from sin in your heart) is what is blocking you from seeing this matter clearly, in that God has not unlocked your understanding:
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
-Heb 5:14
What "tradition" did I follow that created a "bad argument?" For that matter, what was the "bad argument?" You never quoted me or mentioned any details. What was it that I "taught" that I "liked" and "never questioned?" Again, you provided nothing. This type of false accusation followed by a lack of any specific information really sounds like most pastors I've met. Are you a pastor? Because at this point, it really sounds like you are a pastor of a 501c3 church building.

And by the way, you do know that Steven Anderson supports 501c3 church buildings and teaches in favor of your position, right? So go follow him and leave us be.

I beg you to throw away all your preconceptions and start from scratch with the bible.
Chris, I plead with you to throw away all your preconceptions and start from scratch with the Bible, but first, I hope you come to repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing) because if you don't have repentance in your heart, then you don't have the Holy Spirit of God, and without the Holy Spirit of God, you cannot understand the Bible.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
-1Co 2:14
Is Repentance Part of Salvation?

Go line by line through scripture, utilizing all the manuscripts and tools we have.
Okay, that one line gave me a LOT more information, but mainly, that you rely on corrupt texts, like the new-age bible versions and concordances; you don't actually rely on the context of God's Word. Now the reasons you wrote this letter makes far more sense because I can see that you're really trying to justify yourself after I called out your leaven in my teaching on 501c3. Here's what I write at the beginning of my teachings on Scripture, which you obviously have not bothered to look at, or you would know that I go through them verse-by-verse, line-by-line with our church almost every week (we have both audio and article teachings for them), and this will get you more details on how far down into corruption and religious tradition you have gone:
Why I Use The King James Bible: This will provide information about where bible versions come from, why the KJB stands far above them all, and why the KJB is not "outdated" as is often claimed by scoffers. (i.e. It's written for modern English use.)
Dangers of Using Lexicons and Concordances: This will provide information about the many problems with Greek-English lexicons, and the hidden truth about the men who authored them. (i.e. They denied Christ in their writings.)
The 'Original Greek' Scam: This will explain the dangers and huge errors of the so-called "pastors" and "scholars" who try to interpret the Bible by "the original Greek." (i.e. Most of them don't even know any Greek or Hebrew.)
Does the Greek Septuagint Exist?: This will give more details on the non-existent, so-called "evidence" for the Greek Septuagint (LXX), and why the existence of such a document would defy historical and cultural reasoning.
Based on what you wrote, I have little doubt you will despise such correction, and that you will flat-out reject "facts, common sense, solid research, or simple logic."
Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
-Pro 15:10

Examine the church fathers and the other theologians throughout history and see what they say.
I don't need "theologians" and "early church fathers." I rely on the epistles from Christ's apostles (i.e. the Bible). I know "theologians" are a big thing for pastors because most of them worship men instead of God, but I will follow the doctrine of God's Word and the Holy Spirit, as we are instructed:
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
-1Jo 2:27

BUT examine these sources and documents for yourself, don't trust what someone says about them.
I wish you would open some documents and do some study, but I cannot help WILLFUL ignorance.

Do the work yourself.
I'll let readers, listeners, and the Lord Jesus Christ judge if I have "done the work." I don't care about your personal feelings on the matter. I won't be relying on the opinions of childish whining from a man who does not bother to read or listen.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
-2Ti 2:15

I promise you, at the end you will see; A lot of what we have been taught comes from bad hermeneutics/ exegeses and is retained simply cause of tradition. Please...just do the research and see. If you are truly a man of God and you truly love Christ, then you will examine your teachings and you will seek truth. You have some great material but you are in some serious error on other areas. 
Certainly, you would not begrudge me these things without having some "great material" of your own. Perhaps you would like to share with me what you have taught and written that I might see a better example? Perhaps you would like to share what church building you go to (or oversee) so I might investigate the details of it, and of what you believe and teach? If you respond, I would appreciate some openness and honesty from you because standing on pretense (as you have done in this letter) does no good for anyone, nor does it honor the Lord God.
Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
-Rom 13:13
There are a lot of murmurings in your letter. A murmur is a complaint that is half-suppressed, meaning that you will not be specific and keep hiding behind flattering words. God hates murmuring, and so do I:
Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
-1Co 10:10
Despite your murmuring, I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming week, and I hope that the Lord God would show you the same mercy and longsuffering He has shown me.
END OF EXCHANGE
I did find someone else with the name listed on this guy's account who is a pastor in Nevada, but I cannot confirm if it is him. These men keep hiding their identities because they're cowards who lack faith in Christ and love the darkness so they will not be seen. However, I do suspect that this man holds church building leadership in some capacity, but his one-letter whining only goes to show that he had no intention of discussing this matter, and likely because he was scared to do so, knowing that he has no understanding of the matter; therefore, this was nothing more than a slap-and-run email that was intended to waste my time and make himself feel better.

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« on: September 30, 2019, 12:41:07 PM »

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Emotional Rage to Defend 501c3 Organizations (Leslie Augur)

« on: September 29, 2019, 01:07:04 AM »

LESLIE FROM MISSOURI:
Just curious, is there anyone who knows more than you and who is right, besides you. I have never seen an ego as big as yours since Jim Jones and I will tell you you are dead wrong about the reason for incorporating a church, it has almost nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with liability.
When a group incorporates it creates a legal entity that is liable and limits potential lawsuits from personal injury attorneys to the assets of the corporation and not the individuals whose names make up the board because it is the corporation that owns the assets that can be the bases for a suit. A corporation is legally treated like a living breathing person.
Furthermore, NO ONE except the board members and the bylaws controls that entity, you imply that the Government has control, it does not! There are carpet baggers within the Government that would have you believe they can exert control by threatening to remove said tax-exempt status but a well-educated board would laugh at such a threat.
In everything, I have read and listened to from you, I am amazed that any Bible reading, Spirit-filled person could possibly believe the tripe you are espousing. Perhaps you are doing Jesus a service by removing the benchwarmers from the real churches midst, we want them there because we hope that the Spirit will open their heart and they will become a true follower of Christ but you just wish to stop that possibility. May God have mercy on you.
Just curious, is there anyone who knows more than you and who is right, besides you.
Yes. Although, I getting the impression from this sentence that between the two of us, you believe you're the one who knows more and is right, and I'm just some young dumb kid.

I have never seen an ego as big as yours since Jim Jones and I will tell you you are dead wrong about the reason for incorporating a church, it has almost nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with liability.
Ego is an invention of Sigmund Freud and does not exist. You can learn more about that here:
Psychology: Hoodwinked by the Devil
So basically, you're just angry about the 501c3 stuff, right? I hope there's something substantial in your letter, like evidence or research of some kind. I haven't finished reading it yet, but from how short it is, it doesn't look like you're here to discuss facts.

When a group incorporates it creates a legal entity that is liable and limits potential lawsuits from personal injury attorneys to the assets of the corporation and not the individuals whose names make up the board because it is the corporation that owns the assets that can be the bases for a suit. A corporation is legally treated like a living breathing person.
That statement is mostly true, and that's what I teach, and therefore, it shows me that you didn't even bother to find out what it is I'm teaching, did you? Are you going to waste my time by answering the matter before you've heard it first?
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
-Pro 18:13

Furthermore, NO ONE except the board members and the bylaws controls that entity, you imply that the Government has control, it does not!
Again, I don't believe you bothered to read the book, and since I'm not done with the audio series yet, I know you didn't listen to them because I'm only about halfway through recording the series. Since you are unaware of what I teach, here's where you can find the information:
501c3: The Devil's Church
Just insisting "it does not!" does not refute the evidence I presented. Such conversations devolve into a childish battle of "Yes, it is," "No, it isn't," "Yes, it is," "No, it isn't," etc. I don't have time for that. Thus, all you're doing in this letter is emotionally whining, and not reasoning the matter out together with me.

At least be upfront with me, don't beat around the bush: You had no intention of having a discussion with me when you wrote this letter. You just wanted an outlet for your anger. However, the only thing you accomplished in your letter is proving to me that your understanding is still somewhat limited on this matter, and am still hoping you might reveal why you're defending this in your rage and ignorance. You're obviously not tempered, one of the fruits of the Spirit of God (Gal 5:22-23), and I'm trying to deduce your hidden reasoning from your very short email; typically, I get letters like this often from people trying to justify their church building or pastor.

There are carpet baggers within the Government that would have you believe they can exert control by threatening to remove said tax-exempt status but a well-educated board would laugh at such a threat.
And the IRS would laugh at your uneducated email. Look, I've quoted from lawyers, judges, and IRS agents, who are trying to explain to churchgoers the same thing that I am trying to explain to them as well, and I've given real-life examples in my book; all you have in response is your personal opinion. I apologize if somewhere on the website you got the wrong impression, but I don't want to waste your time, so I'll be straight-forward: I don't care about your emotional outbursts and personal opinions. I care about facts. I hope that helps clarify my position.

In everything, I have read and listened to from you, I am amazed that any Bible reading, Spirit-filled person could possibly believe the tripe you are espousing.
I don't believe you've listened to much at all. I think that's just a line you threw in to try and give yourself credibility because if you had actually looked into what I teach, you would know that I agree with much of what you said about corporations. The problem is your ignorance of carte blanche privilege, what tax exemption is, how it affects citizens, U.S. history behind corporations and 501c3, and of course, the military's involvement through FEMA and executive orders. But again, I can't reason with an unreasonable person.

Perhaps you are doing Jesus a service by removing the benchwarmers from the real churches midst, we want them there because we hope that the Spirit will open their heart and they will become a true follower of Christ but you just wish to stop that possibility. May God have mercy on you.
Ah, thank you; that's what I was looking for. That helped me deduce that you are trying to defend a pastor or church-ianity organization (maybe more than one); that's why you're so angry. That last line gave me all the information I needed to figure that out. If you want to know how I figured it out, just ask me and I'll explain it, but I don't want to waste my time explaining it to someone who does not care and will not hear.

I have a sister named Leslie, and therefore, I tend to automatically think that people named "Leslie" are females, but I think I found you on Facebook, and that's how I found out that you are male. Am I correct? After looking at your page, seeing how many worldly and wicked things you have posted, in addition to the false teachers that you promote on your profile, I wonder if you have ever come to repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing)? If you are ever brought low, and you decide you want to see the real Gospel of Jesus Christ, read this; it's a short book that's free to read on the website:
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
-Mat 7:21-23

I don't want to make any assumptions about you, because I have no idea who you are and I have never spoken to you before as far as I know, but if you walk up to people you have never met and talk to them face-to-face like you just wrote me, you must be a horrible person to be around. From the start, you have already associated me with Jim Jones (without evidence of your accusation), claimed I am prideful and arrogant (which is your comment about "ego"), claimed my teachings are "tripe" (which I had to go look up because I didn't know what that meant), and that I'm preventing people from converting to Jesus Christ. Such a person is what the Bible calls a railer, which is one who claims to be of Christ, but resorts to evil words, curses, and name-calling without reason. God says they are wicked in their hearts, and we are to sanctify (i.e. separate) ourselves from them:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat... Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
-1Co 5:11-13
I pray the Lord Jesus Christ would bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming week, which is how the Bible says we should speak with railers:
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9
Peace to you and your household; have a wonderful day, and I also pray the Lord Jesus Christ would give you the same mercy and longsuffering He has given me.
END OF EXCHANGE
So how did I know that he wrote me because he was furious that what I taught was exposing the truth about his favorite preachers? Look at his last line one more time:
Perhaps you are doing Jesus a service by removing the benchwarmers from the real churches midst, we want them there because we hope that the Spirit will open their heart and they will become a true follower of Christ but you just wish to stop that possibility.
Those of you who have listened to my teachings for a long time know that I am not trying to "remove benchwarmers from churches." I don't care that benchwarmers are sitting in church buildings; I care about the truth of God's Word, and hate that they will not be able to hear it from leavened preachers. His words not only demonstrate his ignorance of what I teach, but there is another point to that, and it shows us that he does not believe in false converts as Jesus taught it. He believes that there is only a few random false converts here or there among the 501c3 church buildings that he personally approves of, but he does not believe there are MANY false converts and false preachers, as Christ taught us. I found out the guy is a truck driver, so he spends a lot of his time on the road, likely listening to various preachers. (including, but not limited to, Ken Ham and Joel Osteen, as I found on his Facebook profile) Therefore, he loves his leavened, false preachers, and my book on 501c3 proved they were corrupt, so instead, he believes that including false converts in the church (which the church is supposed to be guarding itself against) will one day convert them to truly believing on Jesus. Thus, faith that false converts will convert to be true converts as long as they remain coming 501c3 church buildings; that is his hope, but if what I teach is true, then it destroys his preconceived religious notion.

In short, I teach that his 501c3 preachers are not ignorant, but rather, corrupt. Therefore, he needs to make me into a scapegoat to justify his presupposition that those leavened preachers are not corrupt.

This man's letter was no different than a baby throwing a tantrum, but because he did not give any details of the true purpose he was writing me (because people who write me often skulk in the darkness), we don't know for sure if this guy is fan of Greg Dixon, and he was angered by my teaching exposing Dixon's wicked deeds. And once again, when I looked over the man's Facebook profile, he had posts with messages that contained all sorts of cussing in them, nothing about Scripture, nothing about doctrine, a bunch of political news garbage, and stuff about aliens. Thus, he is a part of the conspiracy so-called "ministries," and once again, it shows us how much those so-called "ministries" corrupt these people, and why we should stay away from them.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / False Preacher (Jim Phillips) Remains Willingly Ignorant

« on: September 15, 2019, 10:37:55 PM »

Normally, I keep writers' information down to first name and general location so I do not reveal anything personal, but because this letter was written by a pastor of a 501c3 corporation, this man's information is in public domain, and so I do not mind providing his information here. This is Jim Phillips of River City Community Church (https://reallife.org - it's a mega-church); he did not provide me that information, rather, I had to do some research and go hunt it down because he was hiding like a coward behind his computer screen. He did not bother reading my final letter to him either, but I figured that would be the case since he's the typical lazy, gluttonous preacher; you'll see what I mean...

JIM FROM TEXAS:
Chris!

What in the world are you doing? This site is so full of spiritual pride that I can't even get through one of your articles without crying.

Praying for your heart of stone to become a heart of flesh. May the Lord grant you new spiritual eyes to see the white fields that need harvesting. Instead you're throwing lots of rocks onto the field, which makes it even tougher to harvest.

What if you put half the time into discipling just a few young men into a fully devoted walk with Jesus, instead of typing up this drabble?

Galatians 5:1 brother! Pastor Jim
Chris!
Jim! (I'm just reacting as you addressed me; I have no idea who you are.)

What in the world are you doing?
Preaching Christ's doctrine. What are you doing?

This site is so full of spiritual pride that I can't even get through one of your articles without crying.
Yeah, people who hate correction and instruction unto righteousness are grieved by it because they forsake the ways of God.
Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
-Pro 15:10
Those types of churchgoers are those who, when they heard the Word of God, the seed fell into their heart of stony ground:
And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
-Mark 4:16-17

Praying for your heart of stone to become a heart of flesh.
I believe I have a heart of flesh; God will judge. However, I am not immune to pride, so I must pray against it in my own heart. However, I cannot answer vague accusations. Be specific.

May the Lord grant you new spiritual eyes to see the white fields that need harvesting.
I pray the Lord God give you repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing) as He was merciful enough to give to someone as useless and wicked me.
Is Repentance Part of Salvation?

Instead you're throwing lots of rocks onto the field, which makes it even tougher to harvest.
I don't know what you mean by that. You have to learn to calm yourself down (which is called "temperance" in Scripture), take some time with your letter (which is called "patience" in Scripture) and state your offense clearly, with details.
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
-2Ti 2:24-26
You see, if you really cared about my soul, you would have taken the time, but you're being vague, keeping your complaints half-suppressed, which is called "murmuring" in Scripture, and God hates that.
Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
-1Co 10:10

What if you put half the time into discipling just a few young men into a fully devoted walk with Jesus, instead of typing up this drabble?
That's a slap in the face to all the young men in our church. I didn't know you took the time to learn what we do in our church, what we discuss, the time we spend in God's Word, and the works we do. When did you stop by and meet everyone? Because I don't remember that.
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
-John 7:24

Galatians 5:1 brother!
I don't consider you a "brother" of anything yet because you have not shown me the fruits of the Spirit of God. If you want to know where that is, you just have to keep reading in Galatians 5:
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
-Gal 5:22-23
You wrote me murmuring in pride without temperance, which should be embarrassing to you. We have no such tradition of contention in the church:
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
-1Co 11:16
That was a really bad first impression; would you like to try again? Perhaps you can include some details of what exactly you read that set you off in self-righteous wrath. (And there's no need to stand on pretense with me with flattering lips; your anger was very clearly seen. Just speak plainly; I like straight-forward people.)
Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
-Psa 12:1-2
Chris!

Your responses are full of self-righteousness.  Ugh!  But I will attempt to explain why I even made a comment.

Some visitors to our church ran across your article can DEMON CHURCH 501c3 or something like that.  It messed them up so much so that they are rethinking even being in a church.  So that's why I went to your site, to read the article. And after looking at some other articles, I was just saddened.  Because of your influence, this family may not find a church home to help them along in their faith.

God's blessings to you Chris!  Galatians 5:1 by the way leads us to Galatians 5:23. Can't really have the fruit of the Spirit without freedom from the law.

Respectfully yours, Pastor Jim
I'll wait to respond to this because you're still being vague. What specifically did you find in the teaching on 501c3 that was incorrect?
THREE DAYS LATER
Alright, your 3 days of silence in combination with your emails told me everything I needed to know about what is in your heart.
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
-Mat 15:18
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
-Mat 15:8
First of all, I don't appreciate you lying to me.
God Does Not Justify Lies
You didn't "cry" at anything on our site because you didn't read anything on our site. The only crying you did was in the tantrum you just threw over email, acting like a child in your understanding, being filled with malice hidden behind flattering and vain lips of "God's blessings to you," which were feigned words.
Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
-1Co 14:20
You could not even remember the very simple name of the article, which shows that you didn't even bother to read it, and that demonstrates that you have no love for that family who is sanctifying themselves away from your leavened so-called "ministry" and your corrupt church building.
The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
-Pro 15:28
If you really cared about them, you would have looked into the matter to help protect them, instead of choosing to throw a temper tantrum. Furthermore, you were very subtle and crafty with your words, thinking I wouldn't catch your deception, when you said:
"So that's why I went to your site, to read the article."
But you never said you actually read and/or studied the matter; you just "went to the site," and then immediately wrote me in a huff to answer the matter before you've heard it first:
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
-Pro 18:13
The Bible says you are a fool (i.e. a man who cannot be reasoned with) and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Open rebuke is better than secret love.
-Pro 27:5
You don't love those people enough to stop being lazy and do some actual work in study, you're just angry that their wallet is walking out the door, because they are just merchandise to you...
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
-2Pe 2:1-3
... while you speak evil of the good doctrine of Christ, and hypocritically site Gal 5:1, attempting to make me into a scapegoat for your sin.
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
-Galatians 5:1
Make no mistake Jim, that family is sanctifying themselves from wickedness, and that wickedness comes from your lazy, corrupt heart.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
-Jer 17:9
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
-Pro 28:26
You have, first of all, brought your church building and all those churchgoers under the bondage of 501c3, denying the Lord Jesus Christ in your contract and worship of another master, yoking yourself together with unbelievers (2Co 6:14-18), even though you close your eyes and cover your ears to the truth...
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
-2Ti 4:3-4
...and then furthermore, I know you teach false doctrine on storehouse tithing, further bringing them under the bondage of the law in which Christ has made us Christians free.
Tithe is Not a Christian Requirement
God will judge, and you will face Him and give an account for everything you have ever said, thought, or done.
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
-Mat 12:36
The next thing you said was so prideful, so self-righteous, and so self-serving, I can hardly believe someone who calls himself a "pastor" would make this statement:
Because of your influence, this family may not find a church home to help them along in their faith.
Apparently, you believe that you're the Holy Spirit of God for men because you don't believe what Scripture says:
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
-1Jo 2:26-27
You also foolishly believe that the church is a building, or in other words, you bring those people under the bondage of your temple-based philosophy, which turns away from Jesus Christ.
For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
-1Co 12:12
And Christ is the head of the body; not Jim Phillips.
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
-Col 1:18
And because of your laziness and willful ignorance, you scatter those who would hear God's Word, forcing them to depart from leaven:
Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
-Jer 23:1
They can study at home, start up a church for study among themselves, or join a real church who are not leavened and willingly ignorant, as you have proven yourself to be. I trust in the Holy Spirit of God for their care, but you trust in Jim Phillips Inc.
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
-Jer 17:5
Based on what you have written me so far, I do not believe your a preacher of Christ; I believe you're a false preacher given over to his sin. That's why I wrote this book:
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
-Mat 7:21-23
I had to do a bit of investigation with your name, and I think I found the church building you're talking about: Is River City Community Church the right place? (https://reallife.org) I think I see your picture beside "Group Pastor" (which, there is no such position in the New Testament). It did not take long for me to see the corruption there too, the witchcraft traditions you guys participate in, the new-age worldly rock music you bring in; it's the typical worldly mega-church that you see nowadays that focuses on entertainment instead of truth, in which they give the generic "repeat this prayer after me" deception where they fool thousands of people into thinking they are born again when they have never come to godly sorrow of repentance.
Is Repentance Part of Salvation?
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
-2Pe 3:9
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
-Luke 13:3
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
-Mat 7:14
However, I pray that the Lord God gives you repentance to acknowledge the truth, that you may be recovered out of the snare of the devil.
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
-2Ti 2:25-26
I write this as sharp rebuke that you might be sound in the faith:
Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
-Tts 1:11-13
Repent (i.e. come to grief and godly sorrow of your sin), and pray that the Lord God would be merciful and forgive your greedy thoughts.
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
-Acts 8:22
I pray that the Lord God would show you the same mercy and longsuffering that he has shown to me, and that He would give you repentance so that you might be born again, sanctify yourself from the world, and discover His true church. I also pray for that family who is sanctifying themselves from that corrupt church building, that God would bless them richly in wisdom and all their needs, as I pray that you and your family would also have all your needs abundantly provided throughout the coming week. I hope you depart in peace, and have a great day.
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9
Hi Chris!

This will be my last reply. I simply don't have the desire for this sort of back and forth stuff. It's about as enlightening as listening to elevator music.

We just have different perspectives on life with Jesus. I do wish you well. If you're ever in San Antonio give me a holler. It'd be a hoot to meet you face to face over some good tacos -my treat!

Jim, Jesus follower...
END OF EXCHANGE
I'm not going to write him back again on this because he's wasting my time. I also would not sit down to a meal with him because the Bible tells us not to sit down with anyone who calls himself a Christian and will not repent of his lies, railing, and extortion:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
-1Co 5:11-13
In short, Jim saw my letter, saw that I understood the Scripture, saw that I was willing to properly take the time to respond to his railing and false accusations, and instead of taking the time to research and find the Scripture, or even to rebuke and correct me that I might be sound in the faith, he immediately tucked his tail between his legs and ran. That's what you get from a lazy hireling.
I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
-John 10:11-13
If anyone from River City Community Church sees this, sanctify yourselves; get out of there as soon as you can so you can start learning some actual Bible doctrine. I saw a bit of the preaching there and it is watered down; exactly what I expected from a mega-church building. The elders of that church building did not put that man in his position for no reason; they are also blind, or they would have never selected him for it.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Flattering Lips to Seduce Christians into Leaven

« on: September 12, 2019, 04:25:39 PM »

JEN FROM GEORGIA:
I just wanted to send a word of encouragement to you. I appreciate you taking the time to bring the truth out. We are tasked with presenting the truth, planting the seed, and NOT with "convincing" anyone, God does that. We are merely His hands and feet. I'm surrounded by what I call "church goers" who do not even KNOW that they don't KNOW. Revelation 3:15-16 revealed how dangerous being "luke warm" is. I know we have little time and it's alarming to me, what to do, what to say. All in God's time though. I do encourage you to pray for discernment and understanding, and look into http://robschannel.com/, specifically "Testing the Globe" which includes mathmatical calculations that prove we live on a lie, and the Torah studies at  "Virtual House Church" link. Also, the realization that "Lord" for the most part means Baal and "Jesus" never heard that name of course, it was Yeshua. I have not read all of your material, so I apologize if you already cover this. I just wanted to share some of the truths, that, through the "treasure of suffering" Almighty God "Yehuwah" (also explained there why I landed on this annunciation, but we really are not dogmatic about this particular issue!), YHWH, has blessed me and my family with a wise heart regarding these things, and I believe these things particularly because he brought things to my heart FIRST, and then I did not go looking into this, within 3-5 days later each of these individual things were confirmed, "confirmation" in some other way. As if God sent me the understanding in my heart, then confirmed it in a totally different way. That is the only reason I'm reaching out to share this with you. Not a false doctrine in my eyes, I tell you. When you've been tried and tested in fire as silver, and He's loved you enough to take the time to cause you to draw nearer to him, and to reveal His truths to you, you really have to listen, and share it. Even if it makes you sound like a foolish, idiotic crazy person. Scientism is a religion of course. Bless you for what you're telling people and again, truly appreciated, what you're baring for these truths!
I just wanted to send a word of encouragement to you. I appreciate you taking the time to bring the truth out. We are tasked with presenting the truth, planting the seed, and NOT with "convincing" anyone, God does that. We are merely His hands and feet.
Right, and it's not that we don't persuade men to the best of our ability, as Paul wrote:
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; -2Co 5:11
However, it's not our job to convert (i.e. to turn and change) them; that's left to the Lord Jesus Christ.
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
-Mat 13:15

I'm surrounded by what I call "church goers"
I call them churchgoers too. However, it's about a philosophy (i.e. way of thinking), not necessarily about whether or not they attend a building. (i.e. It can apply to a lot more people.)

who do not even KNOW that they don't KNOW. Revelation 3:15-16 revealed how dangerous being "luke warm" is. I know we have little time and it's alarming to me, what to do, what to say. All in God's time though. I do encourage you to pray for discernment and understanding, and look into http://robschannel.com/, specifically "Testing the Globe" which includes mathmatical calculations that prove we live on a lie, and the Torah studies at  "Virtual House Church" link. Also, the realization that "Lord" for the most part means Baal and "Jesus" never heard that name of course, it was Yeshua. I have not read all of your material, so I apologize if you already cover this.
There are some factual errors in all that; I can see that you've been influenced by a number of teachers by just what little you said in that paragraph.
My brethren, be not many masters [teachers], knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
-James 3:1
There are very basic Scriptures that disprove many of those things, just to give one example:
And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
-Judges 2:13
If 'Lord' meant 'Baal', then this verse reads: "And they forsook Baal, and served Baal." That's nonsensical (i.e. a complete contradiction that would be a lie), meaning that, whoever taught you that is leavened and has little actual understanding, but is trying to deceive you for whatever monetary reason he has.
It should also be noted that when you say that you encourage me to "pray for discernment and understanding," that automatically implies that I don't do that on a regular basis, and certainly, not only do you not have that information to know what is in my prayers, but that's completely unfair and uncharitable. If you were being more honest, what you are really doing is pleading with me to go listen to other teachers you listen to, hoping that I would do as the Mormons do and have a "feeling in the bosom," so that way I'll believe some of the other leavened things that you've been roped into. To be frank, I decline your offer; we don't run a "conspiracy ministry" here -- this is not to say there are not conspiracies, nor that I do not discuss such things, but there are such men who do nothing but that, and still claim to be of Christ, when in fact, in most cases, they are not of Christ.
In addition, Rob Skiba is not a minister as much as he runs a conspiracy [so-called] "ministry," which is someone who doesn't really teach the doctrines of Scripture, but rather, he focuses all his attention on conspiracies. (He does it for a variety of reasons I won't cover in this letter to keep things short because I don't even know that you'll listen to me anymore after I show you this; in other words, I can't tell if you will hear yet, so I don't want to waste my time.) Normally, when I do this for someone, I go into the man's doctrines and analyze what he believes and teaches (i.e. how Jesus told us to discern such matters in Matthew 16:6-12), but for Rob, not only does he not have hardly any Bible doctrine to compare (from what I could tell on his site), but I'll just take you to his "About" page. That should be enough to prove the point. If you really are discerning by the Spirit of God, then you should be able to see the problem. This is both listed on the site you sent me, and on his business site "King's Gate Media:"
http://robskiba.com/#!/about-rob/
Now, because I believe you're intelligent, I want you to read that short page carefully. Then, I want you to go to my About page and read that short part about me carefully:
http://creationliberty.com/about.php#family
If you have the spiritual discernment that you claim, can you tell me the difference between those two "About" pages?
-Does Rob ever mention the Jesus Christ in the description of himself?
-Does Rob say that he is a "Christian?" Or does he say he is an "ancient Nephilim theorist?"
-Does Rob mention the law, sin, guilt, repentance; anything that would indicate he is of Christ?
Now, the question is: Why didn't you pick up on these things before you sent me this guy's site? Just based on that page alone, I wouldn't listen to the man because spiritual discernment shows me that he very likely not of Christ. I can tell you why you didn't catch that; the Word of God says why:
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
-Heb 5:14
That means, one must PRACTICE discernment and EXERCISE it, not just feel it out, and it doesn't look like you've had much practice. I would not normally be this firm with you, but you wrote me trying to teach and correct me things that you have adopted in error, claiming that you have "wisdom," when in fact you're blind to what's going on and you need help to see. However, you didn't come to me for that help, which is why you will reject what I'm telling you.

In fact, one of the deceptive things I'll mention is that Rob emphasizes that a donation to "King's Gate Media" is not 501c3, but it is a donation to his LLC, which means donations go to pay the expenses his for-profit business, which is just as bad if not worse, especially since that business is from his training at the "Hell-ywood Film Institute." All this man did in his "About" page was talk about all his worldly, vain accomplishments, and not only are you trusting in such a conceited man for education in spiritual matters, but now you're trying to drag me along with you?
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
-1Co 10:12
You should be ashamed because it sounds like you "do not even KNOW that [you] don't KNOW." It is not the prestigious men (like Rob) and the intellectuals of this world who are called to God's purpose, but rather, the lowly, meek, and worthless (i.e. base) who are called, so that men like Rob would not glory in himself:
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence.
-1Co 1:26-29
And that's one of the reasons I wrote this book, which is free to read on the website:
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell

I just wanted to share some of the truths, that, through the "treasure of suffering" Almighty God "Yehuwah" (also explained there why I landed on this annunciation, but we really are not dogmatic about this particular issue!),
I know why you do it; you don't have to explain. I know why it's error too. I used to be in that deceptive crowd for a number of months after I got saved, until I learned the truth of God's Word, and then I departed from the Hebrew roots cult.

YHWH, has blessed me and my family with a wise heart regarding these things, and I believe these things particularly because he brought things to my heart FIRST, and then I did not go looking into this, within 3-5 days later each of these individual things were confirmed, "confirmation" in some other way. As if God sent me the understanding in my heart, then confirmed it in a totally different way. That is the only reason I'm reaching out to share this with you.
So, you lied to me. You just said the ONLY reason you emailed me was to share the leavened and false preachers that you shared. Did you not catch your own lie at the beginning of your letter? QUOTE:
I just wanted to send a word of encouragement to you.
That's a lie, Jen. You see, that's called "flattering lips" that are meant to deceive.
Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
-Psa 12:1-2
God Does Not Justify Lies
If you're still reading, I know you're upset and rejecting all this and making excuses in your heart right now. I can tell you why you're doing it too, because the Bible says that those who are grieved in their hearts at correction have forsaken the ways of God:
Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
-Pro 15:10
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you read and heard some of my teachings, and you noticed that I did not speak things the way you spoke them, so you are trying to convert me to your way of thinking without understanding. You see, there are many things the Lord God had shown me in my heart LONG before He confirmed them to me in His Word, and that's why I developed my teachings; to share those things with you, and with many others. However, now that I have said that, we've come to a crossroads because I have claimed the same thing you have claimed, but both of us can't be right. Someone is wrong, but I'm not going to put my trust in men:
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
-Jer 17:5
You've not only trusted in false preachers, but you've also trusted in your heart (i.e. your feelings), and God has said you are a fool:
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
-Pro 28:26
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
-Jer 17:9
You can follow all the conspiracy ministries you want, but I pray that the Lord God will show you, Rob, and everyone else you follow the same mercy and longsuffering that He has kindly shown me.

Not a false doctrine in my eyes, I tell you.
Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.
-Pro 21:2

When you've been tried and tested in fire as silver, and He's loved you enough to take the time to cause you to draw nearer to him, and to reveal His truths to you, you really have to listen, and share it. Even if it makes you sound like a foolish, idiotic crazy person.
I agree, except that I share the Word of God, and you share conspiracies. There is a huge difference between those two things.

Scientism is a religion of course.
So is mysticism.

Bless you for what you're telling people and again, truly appreciated, what you're baring for these truths!
Someone who repeats the word "truth" over and over in a vague sense, like you just did, is often lying and covering things up. I just hope you'll listen, but you didn't write me to listen; you lied to me in your letter, and wrote me to convert me over to leavened conspiracy film producers. That's not a good first impression Jen. You're welcome to try again if you repent (i.e. have godly sorrow of wrongdoing), but if you want to hold fast to the world, then there's nothing more I can do to help.
Is Repentance Part of Salvation?
I pray the Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming week, and I hope you have a great day.
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The reason a lot of people like to go the conspiracy route and call it a "ministry" is because, first of all, people flock to it, even people who don't agree with it. That means you get lots of viewers, which also means more money. The second major reason they like to teach conspiracies is that (A) it is endless, and (B) you can almost never be wrong, especially when you get into theorizing what you think or believe. Don't misunderstand; conspiracies exist, and I have discussed such things many times in my own ministry, but God's Word and the Gospel of Christ comes first. However, to conspiracy so-called "ministries," they move forward believing they understand the fullness of Christ's doctrine (typically after speaking some "repeat-after-me" generic prayer), when they are still splashing around the milk of the Word and have no clue what Christ really teaches.

Needless to say, after this letter, all the "bless you for what you're telling people" is just a bunch of vain words because, not only did she likely receive a "burning in the bosom" feeling that I am wrong about everything I said (without verifying any information), she probably won't be back.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
-1Co 2:14

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MIKE FROM BRITISH COLUMBIA:
My name is Mike and I came upon some information that I spent most of my walk as a believer trying my best to avoid. The KJV topic.
I now know it's not only important but rather more complicated than I once thought. It's to do with the real authorized 1611 kjv in contrast to most other bibles. This is not the ONLY faithful rendering. There are a few others. The Bishops bible, the Coverdale, the Great bible, etc.. (if I'm not in error)
So, I'm somewhat new to this. But I promise, when I heard it I was stuck with the truth.
Reg Block has used your excellent work on "The dangers of Lexicons" I praise the Lord for your efforts there.
So Reg Block is a brother.
He was one I found myself listening to a while until God brought John Doerr into the picture not long afterwards.
John is from not only an old Roman Catholic family but also one steeped in Jesuitism.
I pray you are pressed to look.
Here is a series of interviews between both Reg and John. Please listen through.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIfGUbjTsGu1dfoNqYUZzmg/videos
May God bless you in the truth my brother.
I remember your name vaguely, but can't recall anything else off the top of my head. However, I am glad you got to the KJB, or at least, I hope you get to the 1769 edition since the original 1611 printing had 400 printing press errors (i.e. errors by the printing press putting the movable type in the wrong place on a few words) that were later identified and corrected over a few decades, and the apochrypha books were removed from inbetween the Old and New Testaments since they contain false doctrines. (i.e. The 1611 had those extra books put inbetween the OT and NT by tradition, not because they belong in the Bible.)
So first of all. Thank you for your response. God bless you for it.
So, based on some of the things you said I'd like to ask you, Lord willing, please sit through those interviews. The Apocrypha wasn't removed because doctrines didn't line up.. it was because it identified Antichrist. God put it between the testaments for our reproof skills. So we could see who mystery Babylon is and the stark contrast between the word of God and the message of Rome. There is too much to type here. But please. And to add, John Doerr is the co-producer of three films
- A lamp in the Dark
- Tares among the Wheat
- A bridge to Babylon
He has a very Roman rich history. Not to mention Jesuitical. His family line was one of the oldest Roman Catholic families in the U.S. and helped to establish it in America.
Anyways, he's a brother and is always open for an open and gracious discussion at any point.
God bless you Christopher. You, and your family and the congregation you're apart of.
Frankly, I don't care who these guys are, or who they were; it doesn't matter to me. I don't respect a man's person; I look to what they teach.
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
-James 2:9
The apocrypha was removed because there are clear false doctrines in them, things I have seen for myself, and I don't need a Roman Jesuit to tell me otherwise. Did it ever occur to you that if he was a Jesuit, that he may still be one undercover? You do know that's how they operate, right? Have you seen the oath they take? We don't judge a man based on where he's been and what he's done; we judge a man based on the doctrine:
Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees... Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
-Mat 16:6-12
The apocrypha contradicts the rest of the Bible, which means it cannot be God's Word. If you want to stick to the 1611, and follow those men on the Youtube channel, go for it; that's none of my business. I wasn't impressed with their channel, nor their videos when I looked over them briefly, and something was off about them that I couldn't put my finger on yet; nonetheless, if you want to listen to them, that's your business, but if you wrote me because you thought that I should join with them in teaching people to follow false doctrines, and I'm going to be frank with you, you came to the wrong place for that.

You said you were new to this topic, but now you think you've understood enough in this short time in your study to start telling others what they need to believe about it? That sounds very foolish Mike. Don't rush things. I pray God keeps you safe in your travels down that road.
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
-1Co 10:12
The best thing to do is wait a while. Keep listening to them. They have very few videos on their channel yet, and they have covered very few topics. They're not covering doctrine, they're covering conspiracies. It's a conspiracy so-called "ministry." If they ever get to covering actual Bible doctrine, it will be much easier for those of us with discernment to see the deception.
that's kind of a lot.. you've assumed a lot about my motives and jumped to a good handful of conclusions.
Did I ever mention that they both have independent work. I was listening to Reg for some time before God brought John into the picture only recently.
Reg's channel is Called "Rescuing the church"
And I'll leave Johns site here for your consideration.
http://cvillebiblebaptist.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16&Itemid=10
Do you do open discussions at all? John would probably be happy to have a profitable discussion.
MIKE SENT ANOTHER LETTER AFTER THIS ONE
I thought I'd quickly address just a few things.
I wasn't intending to bolster up mans reputation by giving a little background on John. It was just something that would come up anyways and for the sake of the topic.
Neither of them would set out to try and take any glory from the Lord.
They aren't that way.
Maybe I didn't come across very well.

John himself wasn't a Jesuit. I didn't say that. Yes I am familiar with the Jesuit oath. The Apocrypha is not Gods word. (I agree) I messaged you to join them in teaching false doctrines? That's a confusing statement. That's not my motivation here... I'm not telling people what to believe, (rushing?) I'm honestly only trying to point to this topic. It's important.
People can look, or not look. I can't force anyone.
If you want doctrine, please visit their respective YouTube channels.
Or sites.

Reg Block - https://www.youtube.com/user/pagliaccismile
John Doerr - https://www.youtube.com/user/John33KJV
And this mans name is Garth. A former homosexual saved by God and set on the right path. His testimony is of Gods goodness. The gospel saves.
https://youtu.be/ZC6IpacZ8tY
Okay, let's start this over. I should have been more charitable from the start by spending some more time on this for your sake, but it usually takes me a couple of hours to respond to a letter like this, and it was already late into the night when I got this email. Now I'm up until almost 2AM responding to this. I have enough work on my plate that I do not have time to pour over hours upon hours of other peoples' teachings unless it pertains specifically to the research I'm currently doing. This is not what I'm working on right now, and so no, I likely will not go through and listen to all these different teachings.

That being said, the channel that you sent me is NOT teaching Bible doctrine. They are teaching about conspiracies. That's clear just from the titles. Just a couple of examples:
-Ascended Masters. Splitting the Logos. Obelisks
-Catholic Church, Aliens, Evolution, MK Ultra
You see, what I did in my ministry is lay a foundation of doctrine, and on that, I then went into other topics. However, this guy is going straight to these topics before he's laid the foundation on Scriptural understanding. To see that point further, I'll show you another example from one of the other links you gave me, namely, the guy John you mentioned. I went to his website and found his doctrine on repentance. After going over the EXTREMELY confusing article he posts that doesn't make much sense, flipping around bible versions back and forth, in the end, I found that he does not believe repentance is grief and godly sorrow, even though he offers a definition that says that it is. I'm not kidding, check it out for yourself:
http://cvillebiblebaptist.com/AdultEducation/Repentance%20and%20Penance.pdf
Instead, he offers multiple doctrines on repentance, as if he's confused. It's bizarre. In one section he says that repentance is:
"Trusting in God for salvation through Jesus Christ alone."
Mike, that's not repentance. Have you seen the teaching I did on repentance? I'll leave a link to the video, so at least you can see an example of how someone should be teaching the doctrine of Scripture, just as Paul, Peter, and John did in the New Testament:
Is Repentance Part of Salvation?
Then, he changes it by calling repentance "works:"
"God will examine your works of repentance and faith and send the holy Ghost if you are a true believer."
Repentance is not works, it is godly sorrow that is a gift from God:
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
-2Ti 2:25
He then changes it again at the end:
"Repentance is turning to God and trusting by faith in His righteousness because we have acknowledged our sin problem."
He is teaching that repent means "to turn." Again, he does not understand the basic doctrines of salvation. He still has parts missing. (If you don't understand that, click the link above I provided on the repentance teaching.) Now I understand why I sensed something was not right when I was listening to this guy.

John's channel is half videos of other people, he hasn't uploaded anything in 3 years, there are very few videos on the channel, and it's mostly conspiracy stuff; not hardly anything on Bible doctrine (which is how we are supposed to test a true preacher from a false one). It's just like first channel you sent me. Reg's channel has more videos and he's more active, but he's the same as the others, and I just scanned through the titles of all his videos; almost NO Bible doctrine, mostly conspiracies, which, by the way, is a reflection of your thinking and philosophy as well (i.e. that's why you listen to them so much), so let's not stand on pretense and just be open with each other.

So, since you have said I have drawn... no wait, let me go back and quote you... that I "assumed a lot about [your] motives," I want to point out that I have talked about some conspiracies in my ministry too; please don't misunderstand, but I have also laid a lot of foundation in Bible doctrine, and continue to do so every week. (i.e. Listen to the full audio teachings that you can download off the website; Youtube only has the second half.) If they do not have the spiritual matters of doctrine correct, then we cannot trust anything else their teaching concerning spiritual matters.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
-1Co 2:14
I'm also writing out my notes on the New Testament as I go through it, so others can see clearly the doctrine I'm teaching. Because I do that, you can look into Scripture, compare the doctrine I'm teaching to the Bible, and know that what I teach is the truth of Christ's doctrine, but with these men, it's very difficult to get at the heart of what they believe because, as I demonstrated to you, they don't have their Bible doctrine listed anywhere on their channel (i.e. because they're not teaching it, which means they're not really teaching the Gospel of Christ and think it's unimportant), making it very difficult to find, and they are also contradicting themselves, as I demonstrated in the example of the repentance teaching above.

Btw, I noticed the video that you attached at the end, and took a look at it; a new-age church building with their lights and sound shows and rock band. Why would you even send this to me? I wouldn't send that to anyone because it sets a bad example. I couldn't find what I was looking for in the guy's channel (Mike Wooten, is it?), because he wasn't clearly defining what he was talking about on a few of the subjects I looked at, so I hunted down his church building website. He tries to tell people he's a non-typical pastor, but he does the same wickedness as all the others. He still scams and extorts people by teaching the false doctrine on storehouse tithing (And btw, so does John Doerr), he excludes the godly sorrow (i.e. repentance) from his salvation message, and he still goes by the "repeat this prayer after me" generic "salvation" that every other church building teaches. They do many other typical church-ianity stuff that I didn't even mention in this email. (I was also unable to determine if they're 501c3 incorporated; though they seem to be by the fact that donations are made to the church name, but again, I can't verify it at this time.)
Tithe is Not a Christian Requirement
Why would you still be going to these people to get education on the Word of God when they follow the traditions of men? It only took me about 20 minutes to find that much information in Wooten's ministry, how have you not seen this stuff yet? You can always ask me if you're having trouble finding those things, and I can help you out, or you can register an account on our forum and ask others Christians to help you out, but that was not the purpose of your email to me.

My problem with your letter was that you were writing me as if you had something important to inform me about, as if you were coming to teach me something that you wanted me to believe, but in reality, you are lacking discernment in what seems to be a lot of areas. You didn't write me saying, "Hey Chris, can we discuss these things for bit?" You letter did not indicate anything about you wanting to have a personal discussion with me, or ask any questions; you wanted me to view these videos, and then convert to believing what you believe. So don't act like I falsely assumed something about your motives; I'm just going by your words, and it's not rocket science because what a man says is a reflection of what's in his heart.
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
-Mat 15:18

Again, if you want to follow those, that's your business. I would rather you didn't because of the spiritual danger in what these men teach, but in the end, it's not my business. I'm not going to harp on you about it or chase you around and give you a hard time, but when you write me trying to get me to trust these men as you have, it's not going to work. You don't fellowship with me or with our church, and then you just show up out of the blue and want me to turn my attention to their conspiracies? No thank you sir. Even if some of the things they teach might be correct, I will have nothing to do with those men because I don't trust them, and that's because they are leavened, believing and teaching false doctrines.

If you want to know what I believe and teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ is, then you can look over this:
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell

I pray the Lord God would give them all the mercy and longsuffering that He has shown me, and hope that you are given many wonderful blessings of prosperity in your family's life this upcoming week. Have a great day, and I hope that helped to clarify my position.
I just believe Gods word is still here and... they do to.
I really didn't mean to waste your time.
I was excited to share.
So all you going to do is spend five seconds sending me excuses? When I sent you that email, I did not think I had wasted my time at all... that is, until I saw your indifferent response this morning. You completely ignored all that time and effort I put into showing you that these men are leavened, and you simply do not care.
Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees... Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
-Mat 16:6-12
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
-Gal 5:9
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
-Luke 12:51
See: The Biblical Understanding of Sanctification

It's hypocritical of you to tell me that you are looking so desperately for God's Word, and then when I show you His doctrine in comparison to what those leavened men teach, showing you all the evidence in detail, you simply do not care.
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
-Jeremiah 17:5
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
-Mat 15:8
And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
-John 10:4-5
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
-Col 2:8

Having the right Bible is meaningless if you don't care about what it teaches. You have overlooked that in Psalm 12 (i.e. the passage where God promises to preserve His Word), it starts out explaining WHY He preserved it, namely, that we would be able to see through such leavened teachers, and be protected from them:
Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
-Psa 12:1-2
I do care, I just don't want a fight. And to have to untangle and reexplain everything you want addressed without having the willingness to sit through at least those interviews.
It's really just a bunch of wild conspiracies. You'd only know that if you watched them though. That's all. They are not leavened as you have accused them.

You seem angry to me. I'm not really sure why. John is open for open discussion on these matters.
Maybe try asking them a question on YouTube. It would be good since then they would be able to defend themselves against your personal accusations against them. They'll answer you.
I never asked you to "fight," I just wanted to show you the truth, thinking that perhaps you wanted a discussion with me (which apparently you don't) and now I think you're lying to me. Based on your avoidance of the subject, I think it's that you don't understand the information that you sent to me, which is why you can't talk about it yourself, and you keep pointing to them as your authority. When I directly showed you that they teach and believe false doctrines, which is LEAVEN by Biblical definition, and then you ignore that and generically say "They are not leavened," I cannot help someone like that. I can't continue this with you anymore because you don't want to hear. You've turned your ears away from the truth. Go and follow them if that is your choice; I will have no part with them. I hope you depart in peace, and have a great day.
END OF EXCHANGE
I have no problem admitting I was irritated by the fact that not only did I know there was something wrong in his first letter because of how he approached the issue, but that he completely ignored me, as if I had no part in this conversation. I decided it was best if I took the time to explain to him the problem in detail because he could not see it. After I stayed up late to do all that for him, he just ignored it. That's ridiculous, and comes from the mouth of a man who does not care; thus, I believe he's lying to me to save face and justify himself. I have had many conversations with people like this before, especially churchgoers, who, when they are presented with facts, say, "Well, just talk with my pastor; then you'll understand!" That's an excuse, and are blind to the fact that it demonstrates that they put their trust in men. It's not wrong to share someone else's teaching, but if you don't know enough to explain it yourself, you haven't put in the work you need to put in to be talking about it in the first place. That's like someone going out to preach the Gospel when he doesn't understand the Gospel; he should not be teaching it when he does not understand it yet, and likewise, that goes for just about anything else.

I looked up this guy's last name in my archives because it's very unique, but I could not find it anywhere. I still can't remember where I have seen this guy's name before... there's something about it that keeps my mind on it.

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) 501c3: The Devil's Church (2019) p4

« on: September 09, 2019, 03:17:10 PM »

501c3: The Devil's Church (2019) p4

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Bible Discussion / Not "God in Three Persons," but rather GODHEAD! (I'm stupid.)

« on: September 07, 2019, 12:52:33 PM »

DUH! I'm a idiot! Why did I not see this before? I need to rewrite the article I did on the Trinity, not to change the doctrine, but to get rid of "God in Three Persons." Why could I not see it before? The term the Bible uses is the the Godhead! Ugh... I am so dumb! I can't believe I didn't see something so obvious, which I have even quoted many times before in other teachings.

Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
-Acts 17:29
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
-Rom 1:20
For in him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
-Col 2:9

Once again, though there are not many of us here, I really appreciate you all who are of Christ, who have been very patient and merciful to me while I take the time to correct things like this. I told our church over Skype that I've couldn't figure out a Biblical term for the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as one and three at the same time, and Godhead is that term. I've just got so much to fix. 

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What's New @ CLE / (BOOK) Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell

« on: September 04, 2019, 10:04:47 AM »

This book (55 pages) is free to read on the website, and can be purchased in paperback and kindle.

BOOK DESCRIPTION: "The Lord Jesus Christ taught that MANY (not few) would end up in hell. (Mat 7:13-14) Jesus also taught that MANY (not few) on the Day of Judgment would call Him "Lord," that they believed on Him, and argue that they did many things in His name, but He says to them: "I never knew you: depart from me." (Mat 7:21-23) The true Gospel of Jesus Christ is not taught in most church buildings today, and I hope that as many as possible would read the doctrine in this book and understand it, that they may be converted and healed (Mat 13:15), and have everlasting life. (1Jo 5:12)"
Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell

I decided to write this book out of a desire to have a comprehensive teaching of the Gospel of Christ that was compact enough I could put in someone's hand. I also wanted it to be focused on the topic of repentance, faith, pride and false converts, all in one, so it could be handed out to the poor, to the homeless, to prisoners, to neighbors, and even pastors and churchgoers, with the hope that they might hear the full Gospel of Jesus (instead of the partial Gospel that they get in most church buildings), how they might be converted to Christ instead of converted to church-ianity.

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What's New @ CLE / (ARTICLE) Tithe is Not a Christian Requirement

« on: September 03, 2019, 02:53:01 PM »

This article has been completely renovated. It is quite a bit longer now, but also explains a lot more in Scripture, with more images and videos to give a better understanding that Christ fulfilled the law of tithe, and taught us charity. We know that tithe today is taught with such dramatic seriousness, you would think it was the secret 11th Commandment that got left out of the original Ten, but if it were that important, why is it never commanded in the New Testament?
Tithe is Not a Christian Requirement

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) 501c3: The Devil's Church (2019) p3

« on: September 02, 2019, 02:25:30 PM »

501c3: The Devil's Church (2019) p3

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Rejecting Godly Sorrow

« on: August 29, 2019, 01:51:43 PM »

HENRY FROM SOUTH CAROLINA:
Chris: I have been enjoying your website for the past week or so. There is lots of good teaching here in my estimation against evolution, holidays and false converts. I have also enjoyed listening to some of your more expositional teachings in the book of acts. I do not agree with your position on repentance. When I read my bible it is extremely hard to limit repentance to your definition of it.
It is godly sorrow that leads one to repentance. In addition you claim that youtr view can be found in the writings of Christians in the past. Where? The small snipit from Charles Spurgeon does not do justice to his full teaching on the subject. I speculate that your position on this point results from your attempt to reconcile God's sovereignty in salvation with man's responsibility to turn from sin for it.
Both are taught clearly and plainly in the bible. They do not contradict each other as some suppose, but both must be held in tension (as man will never understand the thoughts of God). If you would like to discuss salvation further, please contact me.
Thanks again for the articles and audio.
I have been enjoying your website for the past week or so. There is lots of good teaching here in my estimation against evolution, holidays and false converts. I have also enjoyed listening to some of your more expositional teachings in the book of acts. I do not agree with your position on repentance. When I read my bible it is extremely hard to limit repentance to your definition of it.
I understand; it is very difficult for those who have never gone through repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of their sin) to accept it. They need to change the definition of it in order to justify themselves. That's why you do not understand the parables of Christ either, though I'm sure you claim to understand them; only when God gives you that godly sorrow (i.e. repentance) to acknowledge the truth will you understand these things.

It is godly sorrow that leads one to repentance. In addition you claim that youtr view can be found in the writings of Christians in the past. Where? The small snipit from Charles Spurgeon does not do justice to his full teaching on the subject. I speculate that your position on this point results from your attempt to reconcile God's sovereignty in salvation with man's responsibility to turn from sin for it. 
I apologize if I did not provide enough examples to satisfy you. Is there something you have found which contradicts that point? If so, I will apologize and correct it.
I am not attempting to reconcile anything; I studied the matter out, and found the truth in His Word. Mankind does have a responsibility to turn from sin, and Christians who listen to me know that I teach that on a regular basis, but repentance is godly sorrow of that sin, which, just as a child, brings them to turn from wrongdoing.

Both are taught clearly and plainly in the bible. They do not contradict each other as some suppose, but both must be held in tension (as man will never understand the thoughts of God). If you would like to discuss salvation further, please contact me.
Thanks again for the articles and audio.
Why would I care to discuss it further with you when you've provided nothing but your personal opinions? Many people, such as yourself, write me and believe that providing their opinions is as good as all the research and Scripture I provide to prove my points. To put it mildly, that's absurd and lazy. In fact, you didn't even say what it is you actually believe (i.e. "godly sorrow that leads one to repentance", but you didn't define what you believe repentance is, likely so you would not have defend your position); you are only scoffing at the truth (with some flattering words sprinkled on top) to cast doubt. I'm sorry, but I have work to do, and I'm not going to spend that time reading someone complain about his personal feelings on the matter. I've received more letters in the past year from people who have testified of being born again in the Lord Jesus Christ after hearing that teaching, than I've received in the past 10 years. You've heard the truth, and you've rejected it. I cannot do anything more for you, but nonetheless I hope you depart in peace, I hope you have a great day, and I hope that God will bless you and your family with all your needs throughout the coming week.
2 Corinthians 7:1010 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Repentance cannot be limited to sorrow over sin to God.
You on the other hand say that godly sorrow worketh godly sorrow to salvation not to be sorry to God about.
Yes, I would be interested in other writings of Christians from the past who also held to your view.
Not trying to be a butt-head. Really do enjoy your site and the teachings. Trying to correct a brother. If your not interested in talking about salvation thats ok.
2 Corinthians 7:1010 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Repentance cannot be limited to sorrow over sin to God.
You on the other hand say that godly sorrow worketh godly sorrow to salvation not to be sorry to God about.
And that demonstrates to me that you did not read the teaching. You went to verse 10, and skipped verse 9, in which Paul defines what he's talking about.
Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
-2Co 7:9
Notice, that Paul says that they "sorrowed to repentance," and then there's a colon. The colon means that he is going to continue to give details about what he's talking about, that is, what does "sorrow to repentance" mean?
Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
-2Co 7:9
Thus, being made sorry after a godly manner is the definition of "sorrow to repentance." Notice that turning from sin was not mentioned here because turning from sin happens after repentance, which is conversion (i.e. conversion means "to turn" and "to change"). Therefore, he continues to define the phrase "repentance to salvation," and how it is achieved in verse 10, by which he said it is godly sorrow.
That is why God said He saves the "contrite spirit," which is the same as the repentant heart, one who is broken-hearted of his wrongdoing.
The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
-Psa 34:18
You are incorrect in your doctrine, you are in need of correction, and I can already tell from your letters, you have no intention of hearing the truth because you have never come to repentance. Once again, you didn't bother to define what you think repentance means, so once again, you're wasting my time.

Really do enjoy your site and the teachings.
It doesn't matter what you enjoy; what matters is the truth. Did you think saying "I like your teachings" was going to convince me to just ignore the Word of God and trust in your personal opinion? Again, that's absurd.

Trying to correct a brother.
Well, you have not given any testimony that you have repentance, and therefore, if you did not lay that foundation of godly sorrow, you are not my brethren. You can claim "brother" all you want, but it's vanity. I've corrected you, if you don't like it, then depart in peace.

If your not interested in talking about salvation thats ok.
See, that's the deception I'm talking about in your letters. I never said I was not interested in talking about salvation (in fact, I talk about it all the time in my teachings), I said I was not going to waste my time with someone who was just going to whine about his personal opinions, and now you've written me a second letter in which all you did was express your personal opinion about the matter, and in your laziness (without checking the context of Scripture), acted like you've "corrected" someone. Let me be clear: I'm not interested in your personal opinion and justifications; I'm trying to get work done, and I don't have a time for that. Depart in peace, and have a good day.
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
-Luke 16:15
The reason I was firm with this man was because, as he stated, he's only been listening for a week, and the first thing he immediately writes me about is to make sure I change what I'm teaching to match his opinions. It doesn't matter that I've been doing this for the past decade, he has been listening to a few teachings over the past week, so he obviously knows everything there is to know, right? He did not write to learn anything, nor did he write me to have a discussion. He wrote me because he realized that if what I taught about repentance was true, then he was never born again in Christ, and so justify himself, he wrote me with some flattering lips and thought it would be openly accepted. My brethren know that I don't accept flattering lips, and that such things irritate me more than anything.
If he truly wanted to have a discussion with me, the first thing he would have done was introduce himself and then tell me what it was he believed. I guarantee he believed that 'repent' meant "to turn," but he would not even say that, and so he's doing nothing but wasting my time. He probably sat down for 60 seconds and typed out that letter and thought he had done a good service to God, but in reality, he was lazy, and didn't care. After all, if he thought I was teaching false doctrine (which he did), then why would he have not loved me enough to spend the time to write out everything and pull up Scripture to give me examples of my alleged error? Again, his purpose in writing me was to justify himself, and I do hope he departs in peace, and I hope he will receive as much longsuffering and mercy from God and the Lord has shown to me.
The point of me posting this letter is to show Christians that you need to watch out for flattering lips and not be distracted by such things. As HE did to those that spoke to Him in error, Christ addressed WHY they are saying those things, and the "why" for this man was that he was trying to justify himself, not have discussion about doctrine. In our church, we have discussions about doctrine all the time, and I'm not always correct, but we have received discernment by the wisdom and grace of God to tell the difference between someone who wants to discuss doctrine and someone who wants to justify his personal beliefs.

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What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) GREEDY PASTORS: Creflo A. Dollar

« on: August 28, 2019, 03:33:21 PM »

GREEDY PASTORS: Creflo A. Dollar

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Law/Legal / Youtube Censorship and Google Controversy

« on: August 27, 2019, 07:34:56 PM »

I don't really want to get political on this, but there is a matter that I've had brought up to me many times, and I just want everyone to understand that it doesn't matter. The issue is people saying that I should not be using Youtube, namely because it's owned by Google. The thing is, it doesn't matter because I do not have a Youtube ministry. I get a lot of new viewers out of content when I publish to Youtube, but if Youtube decides to shut down my channel, which I do believe one day in the future they might do, I have no lost my ministry, and I will continue to do the same thing I've been doing every year.

I want to share the following video, and again, I do not endorse Steven Crowder because he claims to be a Christian when he is not; that's obvious just by listening to him for a little bit. (He's likely a Catholic.) However, recently, Youtube has been shutting down channels based on claims from large manufacturers, whether or not the claims are true; meaning that they're pandering to billion dollar companies. Also, Youtube has been demonetizing channels that do not report or teach the mainstream socialist paradigm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1zVdZ6azpU

I empathized with his position a bit at the end, and understood completely what he and the lawyer were both saying because I have actually accomplished what he talked about towards the end, namely, creating a channel that does not have click bait, is free for all to see, and that I spend a lot of my time reverse engineering sources. (i.e. Crowder's comments at the end about verifying sources, and using a wide variety of sources--I do all of that.) Few people understand how much time it takes, and what I do by myself on a daily basis is what other people hire teams of researchers to do.

Many people have suggested that I do a lot more mainstream style stuff in my videos (like live videos for example), but the way I have published on Youtube, I simply thought was the right way for me to do things Biblically, because I was looking for people to reason out doctrine rather than impress them with fancy videos. I have, recently, spent a bit more time in editing to make things look better and more polished, but for the most part, I simply post my teachings in audio, which lasts for about 60-90 minutes (for the YT video, my actual teachings are 90-120 min). Either people are going to listen, or they won't; that's it.

I don't have to fear being demonetized because I don't monetize my videos. All the donations I receive are by charity from my Christian brethren from around the world; we don't have very many who support what I'm doing, but we have enough that the Lord God has provided for Lorraine and I, and that's all we're looking for.

In addition, I'm not popular. Very few people listen to my teachings in their entirety, and there's only a few videos that have exploded in popularity recently. But the fact is that, because I'm not well-known, this allows me to operate freely without pressure or harassment from larger companies and organizations. I like it that way, and Jesus did the same thing when he told the people He healed not to go tell anyone what He had done for them. Why didn't he want the publicity? Because it's easier to get work done when you're not in the spotlight.

I want as many to hear as possible, but because I have a "boring video" that only has audio on it, most people click on it, but then immediately leave. If they were looking for some fancy entertaining video, then guess what? THEY WOULD NOT HAVE HEARD THE TRUTH ANYWAY because they're looking for entertainment, not sensible doctrine from Scripture.

The point is that because of the way I upload videos, and the fact that I didn't get greedy and monetize like many other ministries do, I'm not a target. The mainstream doesn't care that I exist. Like I've said many times before, I'm just some "young dumb kid who is some kooky religious nut"--that's not a bad thing because I get left alone to do my work. The Lord God has been merciful to me that I am disliked, and therefore, only those who truly want to hear will sit through the teachings.

Most people write me thinking they have a better way to do things. They are not discerning the difference between what is popular and what is edifying for the church. If people depart, that's good, let them depart; it keeps us invisible, so we are free to do evangelistic works without being halted by those with money and power, and if Youtube shuts down my channel, I will still be doing the same work I've always done, so long as the Lord God gives me the grace to do it.

God has made me invisible; Google does not care that I exist. One day, that might change, but for now, I thank God for His mercy and kindness on not just me, but all of us, so we can continue to work in peace and convert all who will hear the Gospel of repentance and faith.