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What's New @ CLE / (CORRECTION) Pre-Wrath Tribulation and Rapture
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:56:31 PM »
I renovated this small section of our teaching: Beginner's Guide to Tribulation & Rapture
I previously had said the Pre-Wrath teaching was in error, but Pre-Wrath is correct to Biblical doctrine. Here is the update:
The concept of "Pre-Wrath" isn't new; it's a new name to distinguish itself from other false doctrines. Pre-Wrath is actually Post-Trib, but there are a lot of people who have confused the seventh seal of God's wrath as part of the tribulation of the saints, and that's not what Scripture teaches.
Before I explain this, I want to apologize and correct my error a few years ago; teaching that Pre-Wrath was incorrect. The problem was that I listened to the arguments from men like Kent Hovind (who I rebuke today for his leaven and false doctrine in many areas), and the only argument he presented for the Pre-Wrath position was that Christians were not appointed to wrath:
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
-1 Thessalonians 5:9
This was not a sound argument alone because the Lord God can, and has, poured out his wrath on wicked people without touching one hair on the head of his elect. (e.g. The Exodus of the Jews from Egypt, the lamb's blood on their doors, etc.) However, the wrath of God on the Day of the Lord is a separate event from the tribulation of the saints and the rapture of Christians on Christ's return.
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
-Revelation 6:12-13
As we learned earlier in this teaching, the sun, moon, and stars going dark is one of the signs of Christ's return to rapture out His saints. Christ describes the persecution of the saints, and final antichrist declaring himself to be the Messiah in the temple.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24:29-31
It should be noted that right after those verses, Christ tells them to learn the parable of the fig tree. You'll notice that the stars falling to heaven in Revelation 6 are described as "a fig tree," and so it seems God wanted everyone to be able to see and understand this as easily as possible.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
-Matthew 24:4
After this rapture happens (the bodily resurrection of the saints and all are seen to be taken up into heaven), God opens the seventh seal. There is a span of silence across the heavens for 30 minutes, then His wrath comes down hard and furiously on the unbelievers and false converts left behind in the world, and He does this through seven angels He sends one at a time.
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
-Revelation 8:1-2
So the tribulation of the saints and the wrath of the God are two separate events. The tribulation happens during seals 1-5, the sixth seal is the sign for the return of Christ, and after His return and rapture, then the seventh seal is the wrath of God on the world. Thus, Pre-Wrath is the same as Post-Trib, only that some people have chosen to give it a new name to distinguish it from a variety of false doctrines that have arisen over the past two centuries.
I previously had said the Pre-Wrath teaching was in error, but Pre-Wrath is correct to Biblical doctrine. Here is the update:
The concept of "Pre-Wrath" isn't new; it's a new name to distinguish itself from other false doctrines. Pre-Wrath is actually Post-Trib, but there are a lot of people who have confused the seventh seal of God's wrath as part of the tribulation of the saints, and that's not what Scripture teaches.
Before I explain this, I want to apologize and correct my error a few years ago; teaching that Pre-Wrath was incorrect. The problem was that I listened to the arguments from men like Kent Hovind (who I rebuke today for his leaven and false doctrine in many areas), and the only argument he presented for the Pre-Wrath position was that Christians were not appointed to wrath:
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
-1 Thessalonians 5:9
This was not a sound argument alone because the Lord God can, and has, poured out his wrath on wicked people without touching one hair on the head of his elect. (e.g. The Exodus of the Jews from Egypt, the lamb's blood on their doors, etc.) However, the wrath of God on the Day of the Lord is a separate event from the tribulation of the saints and the rapture of Christians on Christ's return.
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
-Revelation 6:12-13
As we learned earlier in this teaching, the sun, moon, and stars going dark is one of the signs of Christ's return to rapture out His saints. Christ describes the persecution of the saints, and final antichrist declaring himself to be the Messiah in the temple.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24:29-31
It should be noted that right after those verses, Christ tells them to learn the parable of the fig tree. You'll notice that the stars falling to heaven in Revelation 6 are described as "a fig tree," and so it seems God wanted everyone to be able to see and understand this as easily as possible.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
-Matthew 24:4
After this rapture happens (the bodily resurrection of the saints and all are seen to be taken up into heaven), God opens the seventh seal. There is a span of silence across the heavens for 30 minutes, then His wrath comes down hard and furiously on the unbelievers and false converts left behind in the world, and He does this through seven angels He sends one at a time.
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
-Revelation 8:1-2
So the tribulation of the saints and the wrath of the God are two separate events. The tribulation happens during seals 1-5, the sixth seal is the sign for the return of Christ, and after His return and rapture, then the seventh seal is the wrath of God on the world. Thus, Pre-Wrath is the same as Post-Trib, only that some people have chosen to give it a new name to distinguish it from a variety of false doctrines that have arisen over the past two centuries.
