"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him."
Proverbs 18:13
The Pre-Flood World
Author:
Christopher J. E. Johnson
Published: July 16, 2015
Updated: Apr 22, 2019

Contents:
Creation of the Pre-Flood World
The Earth's Shield
Changing the World: Hyberbaric Oxygen
Giant Animals and Insects
Never Go Hungry: Incalculable Food Supply
Always Springtime in a Larger World
Advanced Technology in Ancient Civilization
Giants in the Earth
Putting It All together

Please be aware that when most creation websites write about this subject, they don't typically warn Christians that this information is completely theoretical. This article is more a "food for thought" for born-again Christians, not a topic that is cause for long and needless debates. No man's salvation is riding on the information I'm providing in this article, so it's not something I'm going to debate in email (so you all know before you start writing me letters of complaint).

The bottom line is that we cannot know exactly what the pre-flood world was like because the evidence of it was mostly destroyed. However, through Scripture, and what little we can examine on earth, we can get an idea of what things may have been like.

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
-2 Peter 3:3-6

There are a number of things that need to be noted from these verses:
  • The world before the flood was destroyed.
  • Men will deny this event because by denying Scripture, they can also deny that they're sinners and continue walking after their own lusts and call it "good."
  • These wicked people will refuse to gain knowledge into the truth, denying the creation, the flood, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water (which we'll cover more on a bit later).
This very accurately describes atheists/evolutionists because this is precisely what they do; deny Scripture to justify their sin, but Peter continues to warn them:

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
-2 Peter 3:7

No one will come to repentance by hearing theories about the pre-flood world; they need the Law of God to bring them to repentance so they can be saved by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. (I'll mention more on that at the end.) However, this article is written for born-again Christians to gain some insight into what the pre-flood world might have been like, and what we may come to experience in the future after the Lord Jesus Christ comes back to reign as king over this world.

For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
-Isaiah 66:22

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
-2 Peter 3:13





 

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
-Genesis 1:1

In the beginning (TIME) God created the heaven (SPACE) and the earth (MATTER). If there is space and matter, but no time, when do you put it? How does it interact? If you have matter and time, but no space, where do you put it? All three of these must come into existance at the same time for everything to function properly.

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
-Genesis 1:2-3

Although this was the creation of light itself, it is interesting that in 1934, it was discovered that light can be created from sound waves in water through a process that was named "sonoluminescence." The sound waves cause the bubbles in the fluid to implode (collapse rapidly), which, for some unknown reason, emits light. Using this process on multiple bubbles at one, as is shown in the image, is called "multi-bubble sonoluminescence."

"As an indicator of how research on sonoluminescence has accelerated, I have 400 articles in the 56 years from 1934 to 1990, and no less than 500 articles in the 11 years from 1990 to 2001, and the pace shows no signs of slackening... There has been an avalanche of papers on sonoluminescence... The mystery of where the light comes from has proved a fertile field for PhD students all over the world... Two major questions still remain to be completely unanswered: What exactly is going on in the bubble? [And] How exactly is the light produced?"
-F. Ronald Young, Sonoluminescence, CRC Press, 2004, p. 207, ISBN: 9780203491959

(A video of single-bubble sonoluminescence taken by the UCLA Physics Department.)

It's possible that the Lord God created light through water originally, but there is not enough details in the Bible to know for sure. What we do know for sure is that He named night and day from this light, and that was the first day recorded in history.

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
-Genesis 1:6

Some of you may be familiar with this controversy, as many creation ministries out there deny part of this teaching of the firmament. First, let's identify what the firmament is, dividing the waters from the waters, which the average person would assume to be the continents of the earth, but let's keep reading:

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
-Genesis 1:7

This doens't fit the description of continents in the earth because the water is not above and below them at the same time.

And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
-Genesis 1:8

Heaven in the Bible means "space," which is why when God created heaven and earth, he created space and matter. Heaven is used in both singular and plural forms in the Bible, showing us that there are multiple heavens that are divided up, and there are specifically three heavens mentioned in Scripture:

And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
-Gen 1:20

This means that the atmosphere is the firmament of heaven that was created.

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
-Deuteronomy 4:19

I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
-2 Corinthians 12:2


Now that we know the firmament is the atmosphere, let's go back and read the verse one more time:

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
-Genesis 1:7

In the beginning, there was water below the atmosphere, and water ABOVE the atmosphere. This leaves us with a layer of water between the earth's atmosphere and outer space, which is a basic reading of the text that is rejected by leavened preachers like Ken Ham /AIG.
(Read "501c3: The Devil's Church" here at creationliberty.com for more details on a mere fraction of Ham's leaven, and why Christians should sanctify themselves from his organization until he repents.)

Importance of Using the King James Bible

Speaking of leavened creation ministries, most of them use new-age versions in their teachings. Ephesians tells us that the Lord Jesus Christ is the creator of all things, which means He and the Lord God are one:

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
-Ephesians 3:9

However, new-age versions have removed the Lord Jesus Christ as the creator:
NIV and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.
NLT I was chosen to explain to everyone this mysterious plan that God, the Creator of all things, had kept secret from the beginning.
ESV and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things,
NASV and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God who created all things;
RSV and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things;
ASV and to make all men see what is the dispensation of the mystery which for ages hath been hid in God who created all things;
NET and to enlighten everyone about God's secret plan - a secret that has been hidden for ages in God who has created all things.

Using a new-age version leaves a Christian with less ammunition to fight against the heresies of the world, and other pagan religions (like Mormonism) who claim the false doctrine that Christ had to be created.

Water above the atmosphere of our planet would have many significant and fascinating effects that the average evolutionist would never be willing to consider, let alone understand.



 

All the forms of water are mentioned in Scripture, for example:

Which are blackish by reason of the ice, and wherein the snow is hid:
-Job 6:16

Drought and heat consume the snow waters: so doth the grave those which have sinned.
-Job 24:19

Fire, and hail; snow, and vapour; stormy wind fulfilling his word:
-Psalm 148:8

Just as the plural "heavens" mentioned in the Bible can refer to three different types of space that God had divided, so too the plural "waters" can refer to all forms of water, solid, liquid, and/or gas. There are some people out there that may argue for a gas or liquid layer above the atmosphere, which is certainly possible with the Lord God, but in this article, I will be taking the position that it was a solid layer of ice, and as I said at the start, this is completely theoretical, but I will give my reasonings for it.

The Global Warming Hoax

Although I have not yet written an article on it yet, the global warming hoax (just like evolution) is a flat-out lie without any proper scientific evidence to back it up. The general theme that keeps being portrayed is that the world will heat up, ice caps will melt, and it will flood the world, but God's Word demonstrates this to be another lie because God told Noah and his family:

And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
-Genesis 9:11

It doesn't matter how much Al Gore wants to whine about it, the Lord God has affirmed it will not happen again. So whether it's global cooling to freeze the world with massive ice glaciers (which is what they claimed back in the 1970s), or global warming to flood the world, it will never happen.
We see news sources contradict themselves in their articles when we compare published works today from others in the 1970s. For example, Time Magazine published in an article in 1974 stating that the polar vortex was based on global cooling, but forty years later in 2014, they published an article that says it was based on global warming. The reason they contradict themselves was because global cooling was the "in" theory back then, and global warming is the "in" theory now, but they're all just religious lies from those who want to put global, one-world control over all things environment.
(See Time, "Another Ice Age?" June 24, 1974, retrieved June 30, 2015, [content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html]; See also Time, "Climate Change Might Just Be Driving the Historic Cold Snap," Jan 6, 2014, retrieved June 30, 2015, [science.time.com/2014/01/06/climate-change-driving-cold-weather]

A layer of mist and water would generally prevent mankind from seeing the stars, and it would block out the moon and sun. But a layer of ice would create a window to see into the night sky, which is why the Bible talks about the windows of heaven being opened at the start of the flood:

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
-Genesis 7:11

For convenience, I'll refer to this as the "ice canopy." We are now given a timeline for the existence of the ice canopy, from the creation to the start of the flood, which means it only existed in the preflood world.

Although mist or water could be upheld by the power of the Lord God, we see a system by which He set in motion and maintains by natural laws He created. The ice canopy would be upheld by those natural laws through something called the "meissner effect."

(Video of the Meissner Effect in action.)

When ice becomes extremely cold, like with liquid nitrogen, which is around -330°F in liquid form, it takes on magnetic properties. In the vacuum of space, heat is not naturally transfered because there are no air molecules to transfer the energy, so temperatures of objects, like water molecules, can reach -460°F, which is more commonly known as "absolute zero." Under extremely cold conditions, the ice canopy would have a magnetic effect that would be strong enough to be held in place around the earth's magnetic field.

Some of you who may be familiar with this subject might look at other teachers, like geologist Walter Brown, and his book In The Beginning, in which he denies that there was a canopy at all. In his book, he does not give any scientific reasoning for it, he simply doesn't believe that an ice canopy could exist up there, and the section he has explaning it is incredibly short and vague, consisting of only two sentences claiming it would not survive the heat of ultraviolet radiation.
(See Walter Brown, In The Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood, 8th Edition, 2008, p. 365, ISBN: 9781878026095; Although he is very intelligent in the realm of geology, I urge Christians to be cautious of Brown's work because he is leavened, using the corrupt NASB in his book and has 501c3 incorporated status, just to name a couple.)

One of the mistakes Brown makes is his assumption that the canopy consisted of nothing but H2O, but we don't know that. Carl Baugh has suggested that there may have been various metal particles mixed into the water:
"[T]he firmament is held to be localized as a thin microcosm complex of crystalline structure suspended directly above Earth; this structure consisted of strong magnetic flux lines holding silicate sugilite [uncommon pink crystal; shown in image], hydrogen, water molecules and possibly various metallic colloids [particles spread out] in its force field."
-Carl E. Baugh, "Crystalline Canopy Theory," Creation Evidence Museum of Texas, retrieved June 17, 2015, [creationevidence.org/evidence/crystillane_canopy_theory.php]; Although he is very intelligent in the realm of physics, I urge Christians to be cautious of Baugh's work because he is leavened in 501c3.

This is only one of many options, including another theory using "warm ice" that was discovered back in 2005 by applying a small spark to conductive metals in water:
"Chemists at Korea’s National University trapped microscopic layers of water between two layers of a conductive material (gold in this instance) with an energy source equal to the spark generated by taking off a wool sweater. The water molecules froze to a crystalline solid at room temperature."
-Carl E. Baugh, "Crystalline Canopy Theory," Creation Evidence Museum of Texas, retrieved June 17, 2015, [creationevidence.org/evidence/crystillane_canopy_theory.php]; See also Peter Weiss, "Warm Ice," Science News, Vol. 168, Aug 27, 2005, p. 131

(Demonstrating "Warm Ice" or "Hot Ice" and what it looks like.)

With new, unknown compounds being discovered, it is foolish for Chrsitians to assume there was no canopy simply because they cannot currently explain it. When God's Word tells us something like that existed at the time, we should trust Him first and foremost over our own understanding.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
-Proverbs 3:5

When we go outside and are exposed to the sun, we run the risk of getting sun burned, unless you have skin dark enough to prevent sun burns, but exposure to the sun is the reason for black-skinned people in the first place. This is due to ultraviolet radiation from the sun, but it's interesting that water reflects most UV light:
"Water reflects up to 100% of UV radiation."
-University Health Services, "Sun Safety," UC Berkeley, April, 2005, retrieved June 17, 2015, [uhs.berkeley.edu/home/healthtopics/sunsafety.shtml]

This doesn't mean that UV rays cannot penetrate water, because only about 1/3 of UV rays are blocked by the first 12 inches of water (clouds, for example, also only block about 1/3 of UV rays), but if you go a bit deeper in the water, almost all UV rays are blocked. This is why you can't just spray yourself with some water and be UV protected; the water layer must be thick enough to block it out. Depending on the thickness of the water, and on the metallic substances that may have been in it, this canopy would block the UV radiation we normally suffer everyday.

Professing Themselves Wise, They Became Fools

I have read/heard evolutionists make arguments for the non-existence of God, claiming that if God were real, He wouldn't have given the octopus a better eye. For example:
"I hear a lot that god made us perfect. An example given is the human eye. Our eyes are not perfect, one of it's faults is that it has a Blind Spot. The eye of an octopus doesn't have this problem. If our nerve fibers and our retina changed positions then our eyes would be better designed and we wouldn't have the blind spot. If god created us, then why did he give the octopus better eyes?"
-Danielsil18, "If God created us, then why didn't he give us a perfect eye?" abovetopsecret.com, Aug 29, 2013, retrieved June 17, 2015, [abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread967753/pg1]
First of all, "bad design" is not an argument against a designer, but putting lack of logic aside for the moment, the "blind spot" he's referring to is the fact that mankind has blood vessels in front of their retina. However, octopus don't have those blood vessels in front of the retina, so their argument therefore is that bad design is evidence there is no designer, and that evolution is the reason for the "bad design" and that this mysterious magical evolutionary force is still at work to produce better eyes.
What they don't consider is that mankind lives in the air, which is a very poor reflector of UV light, so we need blood vessels in front of our retina as a protection against UV rays. Octopus live in water, which is a great reflector of UV light, so they don't need blood vessels in front of their retina. If an evolutionist wants to swap out eyes with an octopus, they are welcome to try it, but they'll be blind in a days from UV damage.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
-Romans 1:22

Mankind is designed to live in the environment in which we live, and octopus are designed to live in the environment in which they live.

The reason older folks have wrinkles is due to daily exposure to UV radiation, which, over time, causes other bodily functions to begin to deteriorate, which shortens our life spans. When we're young, our body heals the daily damage, but after a time, we can no longer keep up with damage control. However, with a canopy shield over the earth, we would not get those harmful rays everyday, which would allow us not only to live longer, but also maintain a youthful healthy look for most of our extended lives.




 

Although we cover how there are dinosaurs still alive today (they never went extinct) in our article, "Dinosaurs and the Bible," and how evolution is a religious cult in "Evolution: Another New-Age Religion," even evolutionists have seen the evidence that there had to have once been a greater concentration of oxygen in our atmosphere for such large creatuers to exist.

"Dinosaurs were not done in by a giant asteroid, as the prevailing theory holds, but by a change in the atmosphere that provided insufficient oxygen to support their inefficient respiratory systems, a new theory suggests... An 80-foot-long brontosaurus had a set of nostrils about the same size as a horse's, for example, said Richard A. Hengst, a Purdue University physiologist. 'There were some serious problems with trying to get air into that animal,' Hengst said. 'Dinosaurs could not have existed without having more oxygen in the air to start with.'"
-The Washington Post, "Lack of Oxygen Blamed For Dinosaurs' Extinction," Oct 28, 1993, retrieved June 18, 2015, [washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1993/10/28/lack-of-oxygen-blamed-for-dinosaurs-extinction/84f102be-4264-4089-9e10-007b181476ee]

Some of you may have seen the movie Jurassic Park that was based on a fictional concept of retrieving dinosaur dna from the blood of mosquitoes trapped in amber, which is dried tree sap that is extremely hard and resilient. Even though the movie was fiction, what is fact is that pockets of air have been trapped in amber, and under scientific analysis, they have been found to contain 50% more oxygen than our atmosphere averages today.
"Dinosaurs, it seems, may have breathed easier than we do. Indeed, at a meeting of the Geological Society of America in Phoenix last week, two scientists stunned colleagues by reporting that 80 million years ago, the earth's atmosphere contained about 50% more oxygen than it does now. Geochemists Gary Landis of the U.S. Geological Survey and Robert Berner of Yale reached their startling conclusion after analyzing tiny air bubbles trapped in bits of amber, the aged and solidified resin of coniferous trees."
-Time Magazine, "Science: Putting On Ancient Airs," Nov 9, 1987, p. 82, retrieved June 18, 2015, [content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,965924,00.html]

These evolutionists are putting ages like 80 million years due to some amber pockets being found in, and around, coal seams, and according to the Biblical model, coal was formed after the flood under heat and pressure, which means these amber samples are coming from the pre-flood world. Our atmosphere is currently made up of about 21% oxygen, but before the flood, these experiments would indicate it was over 30% oxygen, which still does not seem to be enough to keep an 80-ft dinosaur alive.

However, with an ice canopy around the planet, you can now create a hyperbaric oxygen condition, or in other words, oxygen under pressure. In the past couple of decades, a lot of experimentation has been done with healing people of numerous illness and injury, simply by putting them in pressurized oxygen conditions.

Carl Baugh gives his testimony about his wife's healing in hyperbaric conditions:

BAUGH: "One day, we went in, my wife was wheeled in the wheel chair... just before going into two atmospheres of pressure with enriched oxygen, Dr. Fife looked down and said, 'What's that on your foot?' My wife said, 'Oh, I dropped some hot water on it yesterday. It'll be alright.' He said, 'That's oozing. That's an open wound.' She said, 'I know it, but it'll be alright.' He said, 'We'll take care of it.'... we wheeled her into the hyperbaric chamber, closed the door, pumped it up to two atmospheres of pressure... then he ran another oxygen line past her ankle... wrapped it up... about 45 minutes later... my wife said, 'I think I've had enough oxygen today.'... He reached up, turned off the feeder to the tubes, took the helmet off her head, and then I wanted to see. He knelt down unraveled the duct tape, took off the plastic bag, and that open, oozing would was healed in 45 minutes."

The University of Tennessee Health Sceience Center in Chattanooga boasts of it's highly certified hyperbarics facility, in which they providing healing for patients through oxygen under pressure. In the past, these types of facilities have only been located along coastal regions, used in emergencies for divers who gets the bends (or decompression sickness, from divers descending and ascending too quickly), but as more and more people are discovering its overall healing properties, hyperbaric facilties are moving more inland and getting incredible results, like those shown in the picture of a healed foot injury posted on their website:

Many clinics around the world are starting to use hyperbaric oxygen chambers in therapy:
"The increased oxygen dissolves in your blood during hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and circulates throughout your body. Oxygen-rich blood stimulates your body to release substances called growth factors and stem cells, which promote healing."
-"Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy," Mayo Clinic website [mayoclinic.com], retrieved Aug 27, 2011, [http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/MY00829] – (480) 301-8000

After the 1987 rescue of baby Jessica McClure, who did the splits falling into an 8-inch steel pipe in Texas, one of her legs (and parts of her arm) had turned black from lack of circulation, and doctors thought they would have to amputate the leg, but there was a suggestion to use hyperbaric oxygen:
"Doctors said it might be several days before they knew whether her foot would develop gangrene and have to be amputated. But after surgery to relieve swelling and increase circulation to the injured foot, and after treatment in a hyperbaric chamber that provided healing oxygen to damaged tissues, they said they were hopeful."
-Robert D. McFadden, "Toddler Alert and Gaining After Long Ordeal in Well," New York Times, Oct 18, 1987, retrieved June 18, 2015, [nytimes.com/1987/10/18/us/toddler-alert-and-gaining-after-long-ordeal-in-well.html]


Some hospitals have begun to increase oxygen levels for patients under surgery, and they found it significantly lowers risk of post-surgical infection:
"Scientists already knew that the white blood cells known as neutophils use oxygen to kill germs. And they knew that high levels of oxygen in body tissues help prevent infection and that breathing higher levels of oxygen put more oxygen into the tissues. What they did not know was whether it made a difference in patients' healing. 'This shows it's not just a theoretical benefit but a real benefit, and that it's much greater than you might have expected,'"
-Janet McConnaughey, "Oxygen Halves Infection," Lyons Daily News, Jan 20, 2000; See also Dr. Daniel Sessler, New England Journal of Medicine, University of California at San Francisco

I once drove a Christian brother to get checked out for an illness he had, and we went to the Cole Center for Healing, where they give hyperbaric oxygen treatments to patients who sometimes travel halfway around the world to get hyperbaric therapy. We are not affiliated in any way with their clinic, but their hyperbarics supervisor, Scott Fuhr, showed us around the facility, and told me they're having amazing healing results with stroke and autistic patients.
(See Cole Center for Healing, Cincinnati, OH, www.colecenter.com, 513-563-4321)

The 80-foot tall dinosaurs could not have survived with just increased oxygen, but they would also require that oxygen to be under pressure. Our atmosphere today can't hold that kind of pressure, but with a crystalline canopy surrounding the firmament, we would have hyperbaric conditions all over the world, which would result in much more than just easier breathing and accelerated healing...



 

Centipedes fossils have been discovered up to 8.5 feet long (which evolutionists call "Arthropleura").
(See Ford Cochran, "Largest Land-Dwelling 'Bug' of All Time," National Geographic, Jan 15, 2011, retrieved June 30, 2015, [voices.nationalgeographic.com/2011/01/15/largest_landdwelling_bug_of_al]

Fossils of fleas have been discovered six times larger than normal:
"Ancient fleas were larger and had longer siphons to suck blood with than today's fleas, researchers report in a study published online February 29 in Nature... [The fossils measure] as much as six times the size of a modern human flea."
-Rebecca Cheung, "When Giant Fleas Roamed," Science News, Feb 29, 2012, retrieved June 30, 2015, [sciencenews.org/article/when-giant-fleas-roamed]

Fossils of dragonflies have been discovered four times larger than normal:

"The largest dragonfly wingspan ever is 28 inches... Today, the world's largest living is... 7½-inch wingspan."
-Arthur V. Evans, What's Bugging You?: A Fond Look at the Animals We Love to Hate, University of Virginia Press, 2008, p. 123, ISBN: 9780813926988

Insects breathe through little holes in their skin called "spiracles," but this also limits their size because of problem concerning surface area to volume ratio.

(Cube Surface Area: A = 6a² -- Cube Volume: V = a³)


The spiracles on insects bring oxygen to the volume, not the surface area, so to feed oxygen to the bigger volume creature, with less surface area, requires not only more oxygen, but pressurized oxygen. The conditions that would be required for these insects to exist that big would require a drastic change to the atmosphere, which even many evolutionists are beginning to recognize.
"This was a bug that you'd have to look up to and definitely couldn't step on. British scientists have stumbled across a fossilized claw, part of an ancient sea scorpion, that is of such large proportion it would make the entire creature the biggest bug ever. How big? Bigger than you, about 2.5 meters, or 8 feet, long... some geologists believe that gigantic sea scorpions evolved due to higher levels of oxygen in the atmosphere in the past."
-Thomas Wagner, "Scientists Find Fossil of Super-sized Bug," Associated Press, Nov 11, 2007, retrieved June 30, 2015, Science on NBC News, [nbcnews.com/id/21906979/ns/technology_and_science-science#.VZLr6PlVhBc]; Image from University of Bristol, England

Not only breathing, but also flying becomes a problem for many creatures.
"[Pterosaurs] ranged from pigeon-sized with a wingspan of 18 inches to ultralight-airplane-sized Quetzalcoatlus with a wingspan of 36–39 feet."
-National Park Service, "Pterosaurs," retrieved June 30, 2015, [nps.gov/bibe/learn/nature/pterosaur.htm]


To get a featherless creature of an almost 40-foot wingspan into stable flight, it would require more pressure of air under its wings. It simply would not be able to fly in today's normal atmospheric conditions, and though evolutionists typically get irate with me making such statements, I'll let this evolutionist professor of physics explain it to them:
"How the Quetzalcoatlus and the rest of the pterosaurs flew would seem to be quite the scientific paradox, and yet the paleontology community continues to insist that there is no scientific paradox regarding how the pterosaurs could have flown.
The most damaging evidence refuting the position of the paleontologists is that they have never succeeded in getting a radio controlled model pterosaur to fly. Between 1984 and 1986 the Smithsonian gave $700,000 to the aerodynamics expert Paul MacCready for the purpose of creating a RC model demonstrating the flying ability of the Quetzalcoatlus northropi. MacCready’s team quickly realized that a full sized RC model constructed with a weight and power reasonable for this animal would not be capable of flight. So they opted for a half sized model, weighing only 44 lbs., power launched high into the air with a stabilizing tail, that could then hopefully descend gently back to the earth as it flapped its wings.
While not actually flying and not remotely close to accurately representing a Quetzalcoatlus in size and weight, it was the hope of the paleontology community that the flapping pterosaur model would at least give the appearance of flying. However their plans failed on May 17, 1986 when in front of the national media, their model RC pterosaur unceremoniously dove into the ground and broke its neck. According to the newspapers it was a ‘pterrible ptragedy’.
This is not a close call: pterosaurs could not have flown in today’s atmospheric environment. The application of aerodynamic equations show pterosaurs falling far short of meeting the requirements for obtaining flight in today’s atmosphere, and the experimental efforts using RC models provide physical evidence confirming these conclusions. It should be alarming to all scientists and science educators that some paleontologists continue to claim that they understand how pterosaurs flew when the evidence is so overwhelming in refuting their claim."

-David Esker, "The Science of Flight and The Paradox of Flying Pterosaurs," DinosaurTheory.com, retrieved June 30, 2015, [dinosaurtheory.com/flight.html]; Esker taught physics at the Arkansas School for Math and Science.

Again, this is not creationist material; this man teaches the same lies of evolution as the next person, but at least he's willing to admit the scientific brick wall of getting a pterosaur to fly through the air today. Here's the story from the New York Times:
"Sixty-five million years after nature removed the original from the face of the Earth, humans today helplessly watched a $700,000 plastic replica of a flying reptile plunge to the dust of a modern airfield... Seconds after its towline was disconnected by the flight team, the 18-foot wingspan [half-size] twisted into a nose dive. Control was briefly regained with directions from an on-board computer. Then the pterodactyl replica literally lost its head and plummeted to earth too rapidly for its emergency parachute to buffer the fall."
-New York Times, "A Short Flight for an Old Bird," May 18, 1986, retrieved June 30, 2015, [nytimes.com/1986/05/18/us/a-short-flight-for-an-old-bird.html]

Simply increasing oxygen doesn't cut it; because a creature of this size and dimension requires increased pressure in a hyperbaric atmosphere, which also requires a drastic atmospheric change that is unexplanable by (and goes against) evolutionary processes.

I also pointed out earlier that creationist Walter Brown argues against the canopy, and I listened to creationist Kent Hovind talk about how he had visited with Brown for a few hours while passing through Arizona. He asked Brown specifically how he was able to solve the problems of large creatures in flight, and the surface area to volume ratio problem with insects, to which Brown responded that he hadn't been able to answer it yet, being just as stumped as the evolutionists.

With each passing decade, more fossils and skeletons of giant creatures are discovered. Beavers skulls, for example, that indicate they were twice the normal size.
"Though a matter of great interest, it is hardly possible to form a very correct estimate of the size of the Castoroides, almost the only data offered to us being those given by the cranium. The length of the skull of this animal is 10.5 inches, and its greatest breadth 7.2 inches. According to Professor Emmons, the skull of an old female beaver, measured, from the tip of the nose to the crucial ridge, 4.9 inches, and its greatest width 3.9 inches... The skull of the Castoroides is therefore a little more than double the size of that of the common beaver."
-James Hall, On the Geological Position of the Castoroides Ohioensis, The British Library, 1846, p. 18

That was written in 1846. and since then, more skulls and jaw bones have been found that indicate beavers got up to 8 feet long!

This is a rough estimate of the difference in size.


A giant salamader was caught alive in December of 2015. (4ft 7in, 114 lbs)
However, more giant salamander skulls have been discovered, and according to geologist Joe Tayler, some have been found large enough to indicate they reached up to twelve-feet long. That's triple the size of the one seen in this photo.
(See Joe Taylor, Fossil Facts & Fantasies, Mt. Blanco Publishing Co., 1999, p. 25, ISBN: 0-9700779-0-4)

Massive deer have been discovered:
"Remains of an extinct elk of gigantic size are found in the peat bogs of Ireland. This Irish elk held its antlers ten feet hight, and they measured eleven or twelve feet from tip to tip."
-C.B. Beach & G.M. Adam, The Student's Reference Work: A Cyclopædia For Teachers, Students, and Families, F.E. Compton & Co., 1908, p. 27

Giant wombat fossils were first discovered in Australia back in 2002, but now have been discovered in Europe as well:
"'It is the most complete and best preserved fossil of this kind of giant megafauna marsupial discovered in Victoria, and it may yet prove to be the most superbly preserved example of this fossil discovered in Australia,' Professor Fitzgerald, who is the Senior Curator of Vertebrate Palaeon­-­tology at the museum, said... He said the creature was thought to be a close cousin of the Diprotodon, a monster herbivore resembling a wombat, which was almost 4m long, nearly 2m tall and weighed almost three tonnes."
-Angus Thompson, "Fossil of Giant Wombat Found in Sorrento," Herald Sun, Oct 2, 2013, retrieved July 9, 2015, [heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/fossil-of-giant-wombat-found-in-sorrento/story-fni0fit3-1226731813069]

Guinea pigs the size of buffalos:
"'It would be an exterminator’s worst nightmare: A 1,545-pound rodent with a voracious appetite and big teeth. Resembling a guinea pig grown to the size of a buffalo,"
-Paul Recer, "Ancient Rodent the Size of a Buffalo," Science on NBC News, Associated Press, Sept 18, 2003, retrieved July 9, 2015, [nbcnews.com/id/3077173/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/ancient-rodent-size-buffalo/#.VZ55rPlVhBc]

There are many more beyond this, from giant turkeys to giant sharks, but just based on these few discoveries, we can tell the pre-flood world was obviously very different than what we see today. So far, we've seen evidence of increased oxygen under pressure creating enhanced healing, easier breathing, larger animals, easier for birds to fly, enables large creatures to fly, and allows larger insects to exist. Although this is already amazing, we've only begun to scratch the surface of what is possible in hyperbaric conditions under a UV-blocking canopy...



 

"In a windowless room in a nondescript office building in central Tokyo, Magoichiro Chatani, adviser to La Foret Engineering & Information Service Co., Ltd., plucks a bright red fruit from a cherry-tomato plant and hands it to me. It is sweet, juicy, delicious. In another room African violets bloom in puffs of purple, pink, rasperry, and wine... Not one of these rooms has windows,"
-V. Elaine Gilmore, "Sunflower Over Tokyo," Popular Science, Vol. 232, No. 5, May, 1988, p. 75, ISSN: 0161-7370

A Japanese engineer was growing cherry tomatoes and African violets in a room with no windows (i.e. no sunlight). How is this possible?

This technology was invented by Dr. Kei Mori, who discovered he could grow plants in light fed through fiber-optic cables. Because Japan has so little space, most buildings are stacked and have a lot of basement levels, and those who live in the basement levels get very little light, but with this system, it's easy to grow plants underground.

Mori started to notice that his plant in the basement was growing much faster than normal from this fiber-optic light, and this was because he did not realize the light he was giving to his plants had most of the ultraviolet radiation blocked out. Mori took this a step further to block nearly all UV light and infrared radiation plants normally suffer by building a spherical solar collector with some special filters.
"Sun-tracking solar collectors are in acrylic capsules that filter out some of the ultraviolet rays. Fresnel lenses concentrate the sunlight and separate the focal points of the different wavelengths, preventing most of the remaining UV, plus about 60 percent of the infrared radiation, from entering the fiber-optic cable. Mostly visible light is thus transported."
-V. Elaine Gilmore, "Sunflower Over Tokyo," Popular Science, Vol. 232, No. 5, May, 1988, p. 75, ISSN: 0161-7370; Image from same source.

Mori first thought lack of radiation would harm the plants:
"'At first I thought that eliminating the other rays would be detrimental,' notes Mori, 'but actually there are advantages.' For one, little heat is transmitted because much of the infrared is blocked. And because most of the ultraviolet is blocked, this sunlight does not fade fabrics or damage skin. In fact, the filtered sunlight can promote healing, Mori claims. It has helped rheumatism sufferers and has speeded the healing of bed sores, according to the inventor. Now two university hospitals in Tokyo are conducting controlled experiments to test its health benefits."
-V. Elaine Gilmore, "Sunflower Over Tokyo," Popular Science, Vol. 232, No. 5, May, 1988, p. 114, ISSN: 0161-7370

The 1985 Japanese Tsukuba Science Expo had Mori's work on display:
"Perhaps the Expo's oddest sideshow is to be found at the Japanese Government's theme pavilion, where a 'hydroscopic cultivation system' is said to have brought forth a tomato plant bearing 12,000 tomatoes."
-New Scientist Magazine, "Science and Technology in Japan: Expo '85 Celebrates All Our Futures," Vol. 105, No. 1448, Mar 21, 1985, p. 55, ISSN: 0262-4079


Today, this technology is still being implemented in Japanese food sales:
"Daiei, Japan's biggest supermarket chain, has installed a factory farm next to its store in the Tokyo suburb of Fanabashi. This experimental facility, constructed in co-operation with Hitachi Ltd. to grow lettuce for sale in the adjoining supermarket, may be the world's first commercial factory farm using full automatic hydroponic culture technology. The system produces some 130 heads of lettuce and other green vegetables per day (some 47,000 per year) on a floor space of no more than 66 square metres. Grown from seed, the lettuce is big enough for harvesting in only five weeks, 3.5 times faster than plants cultivated using conventional methods."
-Koichibara Hiroshi, "Tomatomation; Japan's High-Tech Food Factories," UNESCO Courier, retrieved July 1, 2015, [questia.com/magazine/1G1-4793139/tomatomation-japan-s-high-tech-food-factories]

Before he died in 1990, Mori added a pressurized CO2 device to his 'hydroscopic cultivation system,' which is like hyperbarics for plants, increasing and pressurizing CO2. Mori never realized that he created a preflood atmosphere for his plants, blocking out harmful radiation, and pressurizing the air, with extra oxygen (CO2 in this case for plants).

I've read some evolutionist skeptics that have claimed that Mori never used pressurized CO2 in these processes. They make these claims, simply because they hate it when something creationists predict turns out to work very well. However the hydroscopic cultivation system has been patented, and we need not look any further than the patent itself to see that he did indeed use pressurized CO2 in his sytem, which is still being used by farmers, biologists, and engineers today.
(See Kei Mori, Apparatus For Photosynthesis, US 4724214 A [CA 1187826 A1], Feb 9, 1988)

Under these conditions, it is very difficult to imagine what the world may have been like before the flood, but the food supply would have been incalculable. But to help us get an idea, let's look at some of the incredible results of "Sonic Bloom," which Dan Carlson discovered by experimenting with playing classical music to his crops.

According to their website, reports have come back showing that just by playing frequencies that resemble bird songs (along with nutrient-treated soil), orange tree seedlings have started to bear fruit at about 8 months old, and the oranges have been good on the shelf for up to five months. Cucumbers matured from seedlings to harvest in about 40 days, and produced 7,600 lbs of cucumbers from 500 seeds, with their biggest problem having to pick them quickly and early or else they wouldn't fit in the boxes for shipping.
-Sonic Bloom, "Sonic Bloom Testimonials," retrieved July 1, 2015, [dancarlsonsonicbloom.com/Testimonials.html]

Our ministry has no affiliation with this company; I'm just showing the results so you can see for yourself. Carlson himself made it into the Guinness Book of World Records for the longest plant (purple passion vine over 1300 feet) and held that record until 1990. (I don't know if it's true, but I heard his children were playing around with it and got it caught in a ceiling fan.)

This chart shows the controlled study of black walnut trees grown with and without Sonic Bloom treatment:
-Sonic Bloom, "Sonic Bloom Testimonials," 2004, retrieved July 1, 2015, [dancarlsonsonicbloom.com/Testimonials.html]

A gardener from northern Minnesota (near the Canadian border) said she was never able to grow cantaloupes where she lives until she started using Sonic Bloom, and then she had more cantaloupes than she knew what to do with. She also claims to have canned 40 bushels of tomatoes, and gave away so many bushels, she lost count.
(See testimony of Alex from Bemidji, MN, "Sonic Bloom Results," retrieved July 2, 2015, [mysteriesofthemind.com/sonic-bloom.htm]


(An explanation of how Sonic Bloom works.)
Video @0:36 - "The secret of the system is to feed plants through their leaves, rather than their roots, and to encourage the leaves to open their pores, and thus absorb nutrients more thoroughly, by simply submitting them to the sound of a special type of music."

The substance they offer through their business is a high-concentrated blast of minerals and vitamins made from seaweed, and after playing the bird-frequency music to them for about ten minutes to open the stomata, they instruct to spray a watered down mist of this minerals and vitamin concentrate onto the plants leaves (top and bottom). What Dan Carlson (and his son who now runs their business) did not realize is that he was creating another pre-flood condition.

And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
-Genesis 2:5-6

There is a lot that can be said from just these two verses. First of all, the plants were being misted, just as Carlson mists the plants through Sonic Bloom, however, where do the minerals come from?

We often assume that the pre-flood world was like our own, but let's drop that presupposition for a moment. A flood takes earth (dirt, rocks, soil) of all kinds and mixes them together, which is why many of us have to buy things like fertilized top soil in order to grow plants; not every plant will grow in every type of dirt, and some require specific nutrients to thrive.

When the Lord God created the world, obviously he was not ignorant of what plants needed what nutrients, and it would be silly for us to assume He did not create the world setup with the minerals of the earth in a particular order to allow the mist to carry these nutrients directly to them. I made the following diagram to help give the reader a better idea of what I'm describing:


The Lord God had also not yet caused it to rain on the earth, which may indicate that there were not terrible thunderstorms and weather problems that destroy a lot of crops today. If we take the misting out of the ground with minerals and nutrients sent directly to the stomata of plants for increased growth, apply it to an atmosphere of increased oxygen (CO2 for plants) under pressure, with radiation from the sun blocked by an overhead canopy, the amount of growth and food supply worldwide would be almost unimaginable.

Uniformitarianism: Evolutionary Assumptions

uniformitarian (adj): of or relating to the thesis that processes that operated in the remote geological past are not different from those observed now
Uniformitarianism (n): the concept that the earth's surface was shaped in the past by gradual processes, such as erosion, and by small sudden changes, such as earthquakes, of the type acting today, rather than by the sudden divine acts, such as the flood survived by Noah, demanded by the doctrine of catastrophism
(See 'uniformitarianism', Random House Dictionary, 2015, [dictionary.com]; See also Collins English Dictionary, 10th Edition, William Collins Sons & Co, 2012)

Uniformitarian basicly means "the way things are happening now is the way they've always been happening." It assumes there were no catastrophic changes to this world, which means that Evolutionism is absurdly hypocritical and contradictory, since they believe that a catastrophe (i.e. giant meteor) smashed into our planet and caused massive extinction, as well as other "catastrophes" they throw into the mix (e.g. an ice age) when they can't explain something.

But Evolutionism's uniformitarianism is not just stupid, it's also deceptive, as the leader of the National Center for Science Education demonstrates in a live debate. Eugenia Scott said:
"There are 80 separate layers of coal in the Midwest. [Correct.] If you take a look at the amount of coal... in the world, the entire biomass [plants, animals, etc] of the world today could not possibly be converted to that much fossil fuel. [Correct.] There had to have been an enormous amount of time involved in laying down of the coal seams." [Incorrect.]
-Eugenia Scott, executive director of the National Center for Science Education, radio debate against Kent Hovind, Nov, 8, 1993 (WBT Charlotte, NC)

Again, the Bible warned us people come walking after their own lusts and being willingly ignorant of the world before the flood:

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts... they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
-2 Peter 3:3-6

A scoffing evolutionist will see a phenomenon, and immediately jump to one conclusion that supports their religious beliefs. Either there had to be an enormous amount of time to produce that much fossil fuel, OR there had to be much more biomass in the world at some point in the past, and which one someone chooses is going to be based on either their presupposition that the Bible is true, or their presupposition that the Bible is not true. (i.e. Their conclusions don't lead them to their beliefs, their beliefs lead them to their conclusions.)

The main reason the scoffers reject sound reasoning is because they wish to remain willing ignorant of the most important event coming soon:

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
-2 Peter 3:7

The scoffers are willingly ignorant (i.e. "I don't know and I don't want to know.") of the creation, the flood, the world before it, and remain ignorant on purpose so they will not have to consider being judged and throw into the lake of fire for the wages of their sin. They don't reject the Lord Jesus Christ because of their logic, they reject Him because of their lust to live in wickedness and not be judged for it.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
-Hebrews 9:27

Please don't misunderstand; I'm not saying someone has to believe in my theories about the pre-flood world in order to be saved. I'm just explaining that atheists and evolutionists hate the Lord God because they love their sin and unrighteousness, and they hate His Word because it rebukes them.
(Read "How to Talk About Atheism" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)




 

The Bible does not mention any differentiation between planting seed and harvest, nor fluctuation in temperature, until after the worldwide flood:

While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
-Genesis 8:22

This is the first time that seasons (in context of summer and winter) are mentioned in Scripture. It does not necessarily prove that there was no change in season, but we have no reason to indicate that there was until this point. Furthermore, in context, this was God's promises for the world AFTER He judged the world with water, which is a very solid argument that the 3-month period seasons we experience today were introduced on earth after the flood in the days of Noah.

It is my personal belief that the Lord God sent something to strike the earth, which caused the fountains of the deep to break open, which is why we have fault lines running across the earth today.

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
-Genesis 7:11

How exactly that happened is another topic we won't discuss in this article because it will take a long time to explain those individual theories, but striking a spinning object with the right amount of force causes it to wobble back and forth.
Today, the earth's 23.5° axis tilt is what causes our seasons. I live in the northern hemisphere (top half of the world), so when the north half of the earth leans towards the sun, it's summer time because we get more direct sunlight, but as it leans away from the sun, it's winter time because we get less direct sunlight.


However, before the flood, that tilt would not have existed, which would mean the earth was spinning perpendicular, and that would leave us with spring-time weather all year round. (A bit warmer at the equator, and a bit colder at the top and bottom.)

George Dodwell, Australian mathematician and governing Astronomer for the Adelaide Observatory (which he held from 1909 to 1952), gathered testimonies of calculations done on the position of the sun and shadows over 4,000 years to estimate the wobble of the earth's axis and how it has changed slowly. Dodwell had also presupposed that something large had struck the earth to cause the flood of Noah. After many years of research, he concluded, based on the historical timeline and charts of the sun's position in the sky, that something struck the earth about 2345 B.C.
(See George F. Dodwell, "The Obliquity of the Ecliptic," retrieved July 11, 2015, [http://www.setterfield.org/Dodwell_Manuscript_1.html]

It should also be noted that the Lord God created the earth for mankind to inhabit:

For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
-Isaiah 45:18

When we look at the world today and seem that less than 10% is inhabitable for mankind, it seems to be confusing that God created the world to be inhabited because, after reading Isaiah 45:18, it would see that 90% should be livable. However, we have to get rid of the uniformitarian assumption that the world we see today is the same as it always was, because the worldwide flood inserted the massive oceans we see today, and eroded away much of the land mass that used to be available to us.

As I stated before, we don't have much to tell us what the world was like before the flood, but the names give some indication. The names in Genesis geneology, for example, are rather interesting.
NAME MEANING
ADAM man
SETH appointed
ENOS mortal
CAINAN sorrow
MAHALALEEL the blessed god
JARED shall come down
ENOCH teaching
METHUSELAH his death shall bring
LAMECH despairing
NOAH comfort

Combining these together, they form a sentence that tells us that "Man [is] appointed mortal sorrow, [but] the Blessed God shall come down teaching His death shall bring [to the] despairing comfort." (Not the comfort being despairing, but bringing comfort unto the despairing.) Unlike today in America where we typically name our children based on what sounds appealing to us, they named their children based on meaning.

A few generations after the flood, two children of Eber were given peculiar names:

And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
-Genesis 10:25

Just as the Bible says, Peleg's name means "divide" and Joktan means "shorten" or "small." Again, though we won't cover details of the flood itself in this particular teaching, I believe these names were given due to the water slowly rising up to the current ocean level we see today.

It is quite probably that the Lord God created the land to be inhabited with mostly land and some bodies of water scattered about, that was fertile and inhabitable for mankind, but the worldwide flood destroyed most of the real estate. After the flood, the waters receded back into the foundations of the deep.

Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
-Psalm 104:6-8

At this point, the waters begin to level out slowly, causing people to move inland every few years. "Modern" researchers are just now starting to consider that if we lowered the waters level around the world by 150 feet, there are massive land bridges that connect all the continents together:
"Native Americans along the Pacific Coast and aboriginal Siberians may have both originated from populations living on the land bridge now submerged under the Bering Strait, a new language analysis suggests."
-Tia Ghose, "Native Americans' Ancestors God Stuck On Land Bridge On Way To Americas, New Research Suggests," Huffington Post: Science, Mar 15, 2014, retrieved July 16, 2015, [huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/15/language-native-americans-colonized-americas_n_4955816.html]; Image from same source.

That may explain why Eber named his children "divide" and "shorten" after what was happening to the world at that time. People living in these areas had to decide which side they wanted to live on, and could not contend with the oncoming tide.

So we now have hyperbaric oxygen (and CO2 for plants) under a canopy which blocks out most (if not all) harmful radiation, under pressure which makes it easier to breathe and allows for larger creatures, in many times more land mass than we have today in the world, with spring-time wheather all year long. It's now becoming difficult to imagine how the world would have looked, but it certainly helps us understand why there is so much fossil fuel in the crust of the earth.



 

The typical evolution propaganda is that ancient man is stupid and modern man is wise and intelligent, but this makes no sense in the light of archeological discoveries. The evolutionist puts modern man at about 500,000 years old, with technological developments only within the past 50,000 years, however, we find man-made designs in layers of rock and coal that is supposed to be millions of years old according to Evolutionism.

"In 1944, as a ten-year old boy, Newton Anderson dropped a large lump of coal (bituminous [black mixture of hydrocarbons, typically used for roofing and asphalt] coal mined near his home in Upshur County, West Virginia) in his basement. It broke open and he found that it contained a brass bell with an iron clapper inside. The bell is about 8-10 inches tall and generally resembles a school bell... On the outside, the bells apparent brass handle resembles the overall native architectural features seen in Thailand, with an indistinct type of seated person... The Intitute For Creation Research submitted the bell to the lab at the University of Oklahoma for analysis. The lab's nuclear activation analysis revealed that the bell contains an unusual mix of metals, different from any known modern alloy production... copper, zinc, tin, arsenic, iodine and selenium."
-Jim Hendleman, Jaredites: The Missing Civilization X, Author House, 2013, p. 347-348, ISBN: 9781481733205

Many scoffers will argue that early man did not have knowledge to produce iron tools, but this is simply not true:

And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
-Genesis 4:22

Tubalcain was teaching others iron working, and the evidence of that is seen in smithing designs found in coal (which formed after the flood):
"On January 10, 1949, Robert Nordling sent a photograph of an iron cup to Frank L. Marsh of Andrews University, in Berrien Springs, Michigan. Nordling wrote: 'I visited a friend's museum in southern Missouri. Among his curios, he had the iron cup pictured on the enclosed snapshot.' At the private museum, the iron cup had been displayed along with the following affidavit, made by Frank J. Kenwood in Sulphur Springs, Arkansas, on November 27, 1948: 'While I was working in the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Okla. in 1912, I came upon a solid chunk of coal which was too large to use. I broke it with a sledge hammer. This iron pot fell from the center, leaving the impression or mould of the pot in the piece of coal. Jim Stall (an employee of the company) witnessed the breaking of the coal, and aw the pot fall out. I traced the source of the coal, and found that it came from the Wilburton, Oklahoma, Mines.' According to Robert O. Fay of the Oklahoma Geological Survey, the Wilburton mine coal is [dated by evolutionists at] about 312 million years old."
-Michael A. Cremo & Richard L. Thomspon, The Hidden History of the Human Race, Aware Journalism, 1999, ISBN: 9780892133253; Cremo & Thompson are evolutionists, but point out artifacts that defy evolution.

Many such artifacts have been found, but are typically thrown out of almost all evolutionist literature because, after all, these findings directly contradicts their religious beliefs. One curator of a museum found out the hard way that you don't dare cross the cult of Evolutionism, and this book was written by evolutionists:
"[T]he primary point we are trying to make... that there exists in the scientific community a knowledge filter that screens out unwelcome evidence. This process of knowledge filtration has been going on for well over a century and continues to the present day... there also appear to be cases of more direct suppression. In the early 1950s, Thomas E. Lee of the National Museum of Canada found advanced stone tools in glacial deposits at Sheguiandah, on Manitoulin Island in northern Lake Huron. Geologist John Sanford of Wayne State University argued that the oldest Sheguiandah tools were at least 65,000 years old and might be as much as 125,000 years old. For those adhering to standard views on North American prehistory, such ages were unacceptable. Humans supposedly first entered North America from Siberia about 12,000 years ago... The site's discoverer [Lee] was hounded from his Civil Service position into prolonged unemployment; publication outlets were cut off; the evidence was misrepresented by severaal prominent authors... the tons of artifacts vanished into storage bins of the National Museum of Canada; for refusing to fire the discoverer, the Director of the National Museum, who had proposed having a monograph on the site published, was himself fired and driven into exile... [today' the site has been turned into a tourist resort... Sheguiandah would have forced embarrassing admissions... It would have forced the rewriting of almost every book in the business. It had to be killed. It was killed."
-Michael A. Cremo & Richard L. Thomspon, The Hidden History of the Human Race, Aware Journalism, 1999, ISBN: 9780892133253

Evolutionists all over the internet do their best to disregard these findings, but in reality, many of them want these discoveries quickly buried. They're often called OOP-Art, which is short for "Out-Of-Place-Artifact," which is a silly name because they're only out-of-place for the evolution model -- the Biblical model has no problem with them.

For those of us not blinded by religious presuppositions of Evolutionism, we can investigate some really interesting discoveries:
"'There was an exciting discovery in 1934 of a wood-handled metal hammer encased in sedimentary deposited limestone (Ordovician stone) [according to berkeley.edu, Ordovician Period is rougly 450 million years old]... 'The metal was analyzed and found to contain 96.6 percent iron, 0.74 percent sulfur and 2.6 percent chlorine. In order to compund chlorine with metallic iron, it requires a process perfected only within the last ten years.
Therefore, it had to be natural circumstances under which this ancient hammer was forged because of the elemental constituency requiring complete elimination of ultraviolet radiation. This artifact confirms that ancient man had extensive knowledge of metallurgy and used metal tools before the Flood.'"
-David Balsiger, Miraculous Messages, ReadHowYouWant.com, 2011, p. 21-22, ISBN: 9781458795359; It was either 1934 or 1936 when it was discovered; multiple sources have said both dates.

There are some discrepancies that need to be noted here for those of you who have heard of this hammer. First, it was discovered by Max E. Hahn and Emma Z. Hahn, and it is unknown to me why he is referred to as "Frank." (Perhaps a nickname?) Second, it is not clear exactly which era the rock is said to have been dated, because multiple sources (both creation and evolutionist) have claimed age ranges from 150-500 million years, but that being said, it's actually irrelevant because it still doesn't match the evolutionary timeline.

There are evolutionist objections to the hammer discovery out there, but based on what I've read so far, it's mostly complaints about the inaccurate details, and some disagreement between creationist organizations on the matter, rather than actual research and experimentation being done by the skeptics. Typically, the scoffing atheists points out that the hammer encased rock was not actually embedded into the rock bed where it was found, which is true (and even Carl Baugh admits this for those of you creationists out there who want to object), but one of the points I noticed that is typically overlooked in evolutionist resources is that the wooden handle of the hammer was partially coalified, which means it has to be compacted under heat and pressure that would only come from a rock bed, so even though they found it detached from the rock bed, it had to have been under such pressure at one point.

Max and Emma's son, George, went on to be a professor at Ohio State University, and according to the testimony of Carl Baugh, the hammer was sent to Battelle Laboratories (a couple blocks from where I used to live), which is a highly respected lab in the U.S., and after their analysis, it was found to be very highly advanced metallurgy. Some evolutionist sources also claim the outer part of the hammer is rusted, but that's not rust; it's char (i.e. remains of light gases and tar).

I would like to provide more detailed documentation, so I contacted Battelle Laboratories, and a representative got back with me and informed me that they are unable to provide any details about the experiment because they are contractually bound by law to keep the details and results private. This goes for all their clients. However, I did at least get confirmation that there was an experiement done there on the hammer, so my last resort is to contact Carl Baugh's office directly, which I did in July of 2015, and the secretary didn't have access to that information, so she passed a message onto Baugh, and I have not yet had him return my call.
(If Baugh, or any other employee, gets back with me on the documentation, I'll be sure to update it here in the future.)

When it was first discovered, their son had originally taken a file and made a groove into the hammer to see what type of metal it was, and to this day, no rust has ever appeared in that groove. The unrusted groove shows that the iron contains the very rare iron(II) oxide (FeO). The charring on the outside is likely Fe3O4, and that is caused by the radicalization from exposure to ultraviolet radiation.
Not only does it confirm extensive knowledge in metallurgy, but also techniques that we don't have today, specifically because iron today will not combine in this chemical arrangement without being produced under extremely protected and careful conditions in a lab. (The hammer was found before that process was invented.) Notice also that it must be done without any ultraviolet radiation, which means whoever made this hammer could form iron under natural (unprotected) conditions, and that fits perfectly into the pre-flood world since almost all harmful radiation was automatically eliminated with a crystalline canopy covering the earth.

At the very least, for iron to not to rust after 80 years is quite extraordinary, and for an evolutionist not to take note or interest in such a discovery clearly shows a lack of intellectual honesty. Even ignoring the evidence of geological pressure, the hammer would have been crafted long before there was a process invented to forge its composition, and the fact that they ignore demonstrates the attitude of a standard religious cult.

And it's not just metal smithing. Complex medical surgeries were successfully performed thousands of years ago:
"[I]ncredible archaeological discoveries have largely gone unnoticed including a Celtic surgical kit with iron medical instruments belonging to a surgeon two thousand years ago. Modern medical authorities deduced from the array of surgical tools, that the Celtic physician, 'practiced a wide variety of surgical techniques including perhaps operations on tonsils, hemorrhoids, and even cataracts."
-Dennis Swift, Secrets of the Ica Stones and Nazca Lines, self-published, 2006; see also Discover Magazine, "Celtic Surgeon," March, 1998

Below is an Ica Stone depicting a man doing brain surgery. Skulls of men have been found in these regions showing holes in the skull with an overgrowth around the edges, which means this man had someone do brain surgery on him, and he survived it.

(Read "Are the Ica Stones Fake or Real?" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

These ancient tools have been used by doctors today to save lives:
"Following a serious car accident in 1963, the victim's life was saved in a most unusual manner. For the delicate operation, Peruvian surgeon Francisco Grano used surgical instruments that had been exhumed from a 3,000 year old tomb."
-Jonathan Gray, Dead Men's Secrets: Tantalizing Hints of a Lost Super Race, TEACH Service, 2005, p. 245, ISBN: 9781572584037

The Ica Stones depict men doing heart surgery thousands of years ago:
(Click for a larger view.)
(Read "Are the Ica Stones Fake or Real?" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

The pride of modern medicine blinds mankind and gives them an arrogant attitude that only modern man has discovered microscopic organisms like germs, but this concept was understood and taught by Roman scholars before the time of Christ:
"Marcus Terentius Varro (116 to 27 [BC]), referred to as 'the most learned of all Romans'... so presciently anticipated the existence of disease-causing microbes that seemed to Varro to be the immediate cause of diseases: 'Precautions must also be taken in the neighbourhood of swamps, both for the reasons given, and because there are bred certain minute creatures which cannot be seen by the eyes, which float in the air and enter the body through the mouth and nose and there cause serious diseases.'"
-William E. Paul, Fundamental Immunology, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, 2012, p. 22, ISBN: 9781451117837

In crystal geodes, that are claimed by evolutionists to take millions of years to form, a device resembling a spark plug was found:
"In 1961, Wally Lane, Mike Mikesell, and Virginia Maxey, co-owners of the LM&V Rockhounds Gem and Gift Shop in Olancha, California, went into the Coso Mouintains in the Injoy National Forest to look for unusual rocks. Near the top of a 4,300 ft. peak overlooking the dry bed of Owens Lake they found a fossil-encrusted geode. When they opened the geode, as they are generally hollow with crystals inside them, they found something that resembled a spark plug."
-David H. Childress, Lost Cities of North & Central America, Adventures Unlimited Press, 1992, p. 511, ISBN: 9780932813091; Image from same source, p. 542

There existed a tribe in South America called the "Nazca," [or Nasca] and they created hundreds of large images with lines they drew with dirt and stones in the desert. The whitish coloring of the dirt in the paths next to the dark rocks specifically placed along the edges is what makes them visibly unique. There are simple tools of surveying that are therorized to have been used to create these lines (based on archeological finds in that area) that demonstrated this peoples' mathematical skills, and contrary to poplular creationist teachings floating around that flight is required to see the full pictures, these designs can be seen from the hill tops nearby. (It does not disprove that some form of flight was known to the Nazca people, but claiming there is no other way to see them is a flawed statement.)
-Nick Redfern, Secret History: Conspiracies from Ancient Aliens to the New World Order, Visible Ink Press, 2015, p. 78, ISBN: 9781578595587
The main point I want to focus on concerning the Nazca Lines is a spider with the third leg extended, which confused scientists for some time, until it was discovered that there exists a spider (called a Peacock Spider), incredibly small and not native to the Nazca region, that is microscopic, that will mate with its third leg that extends for the mating process. Not only would this indicate that the Nazca people had been very knowledgable of the biology of the surrounding lands far from their own, but also had some way to see a tiny organisms' mating rituals that cannot normally be seen with the naked eye.
More evidence of visual magnification is seen in ancient jewelry, for example, these beads, which are about 3-4 mm wide:
"In other parts of the world, tiny, stone beads with ultra-fine holes for threading defy explanation. Only the most current technology is capable of piercing holes of comparable minute size in stone."
-Joseph Davidovitz & Margie Morris, The Pryamids: An Enigma Solved, Dorset Books, 1988, p. 8, ISBN: 9780880295550
"When viewed through a magnifying glass, they are revealed as most perfectly and beautiful wrought beads. Many are elaborately engraved or chased, others are built up and welded or soldered together and all are pierced. It seems impossible that such minute objects many times smaller than the head of a common pin, could have been produced by human beings without the aid of a lens."
-Alpheus H. Verrill & Ruth Verrill, America's Ancient Civilizations, Capricorn Books, 1967, p. 147; [Original at Indiana University]

The Ica Stones, discovered after thousands of years, depict men looking at creatures through a magnifying glass.

(Read "Are the Ica Stones Fake or Real?" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

Another discovery that has baffled archeologists are the giant cut stones that would be almost impossible to lift, even with our current technology:
"Near the modern Lebanese city of Baalbek, a place the Greeks and Romans called Heliopolis, or City of the Sun, there once ran an ancient trade route linking Damascus and Tyre. It is here that Roman engineers are credited with raising a spectacular temple complex in the first century AD. Most notable in the complex is the incredible Temple of Jupiter, a stone behemoth surrounded by a forest of fifty-four columns of immense size and height.
When gazing at this structure, your eyes are immediately drawn beneath the Temple of Jupiter to its foundation called the Grand Terrace. This base comprises an area of more than five million square feet and contains enough stone to build thirty Empire State buildings. Each massive stone was precisely cut and set into place without one ounce of mortar; and yet, in the last two thousand years, the Grand Terrace has not settled a single millimeter.
Raising your eyes above the foundation to one of the enclosure walls on the terrace, called the Trilithon, one can't help but gasp at what stands in front of you: part of the wall is composed of three blocks of hewn stone each weighing 750 tons. What is even more incredible is that the blocks have been raised twenty-two feet in order to lie on top of smaller blocks. Stood upright, each would be as tall as a five-story building... The largest, most baffling worked stone in the world lies in a nearby quarry. This monolith is 13x13 and nearly 72 feet long while tipping the scales at 1,100 tons.
It makes no sense in postulating that the Romans had the capabilities to move stones weighing as much as 2,500,000 lbs. Even today, there is only one machine on our planet that can transport this kind of weight.
This machine is what moves the space shuttles from the vehicle assemly building (VAB) to the launch pad. NASA calls this giant tractor transporter the Crawler. In order to transport the large, heavy shuttles, the Crawler's platform itself is as big [as] a baseball diamond and weighs six million pounds in order to support the weight of the shuttle and its cargo. When transporting such a massive object, special care must be given as to not topple it over by moving too quickly. The Crawler moves the space shuttles at a rate of one half mile an hour and takes nearly six hours for the Crawler to negotiate the three miles of paved roads between the VAB and launch complex thirty-nine."
-John Bliss, Armageddon Again: Where Have We Been and Where Are We Headed? Tate Publishing, 2011, p. 32-33, ISBN: 9781617770333

After this author had published his book, another smaller mobile crane was developed by the Germans, called the Liebherr Mobile Crane, which can lift just enough weight to possibly move the giant stone slab, but is also a giant mass of steel and mechanical parts attached to an extra wide 18-wheeler truck.

How is it that people 2,000 years ago were able to do on rough terrian what we can barely do today on paved roads? Sadly, many authors attribute this to "proof of alien visitation" because they are so blinded by Evolutionism (the false doctrine and elitist attitude that ancient man was dumb and modern man is smart), and cannot let go of their cultic dogma, so they will come up with the most wild and crazy explanations if only they will not have to turn from the sacred cow that helps them justify their sin.

Yet, in my opinion, one of the strangest artifacts is a 39-pound axe head. It may sound strange to some that, of all these findings, this would be the strangest, but to put that into perspective, it weighs almost three times an adult male's bowling ball. For anyone who has chopped wood before, you know that swinging around a 39-pound axe head is almost impossible.
"In 1893, as part of the Columbian Exposition, a large celt axe head was displayed at what is now Chicago's Field Museum. It was made of solid copper and weighed 17.7 kg. (39 pounds) The object was 61 cm. long, 13 cm. wide and varied from 2 to 4.5 cm. in thickness. It was found in a Hopewell Indiana mound (500 B.C.)"
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-Ancient American Magazine, This is a photo of a back issue that I have been unable to properly date and reference because their website search engine is currently broken [as of July 9, 2015], you can visit them [ancientamerican.com/backissues.html]

In simple logic, only a heavy-duty person would use a heavy-duty axe head.



 

We see giant insects, giant animals, but what about giant people? Did mankind used to be bigger than we are today?

The Bible does mention giants living in the earth; however, there is a rather large controversy that's floating around about this verse; some arguing that this isn't talking about mankind being giants, but suggest that fallen angels had children with women. This is another reason I urge Christians to get rid of their corrupt new-age bible versions and pick up the King James Bible because you'll find that an NIV, for example, says the following:
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."
-Genesis 6:4, New International Version, Copyright 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.

First of all, I would like to apologize to everyone for previous teachings I've done on this subject because I used to teach the typical "Nephilim" idea, that fallen angels (i.e. devils in disguise) took wives of women, and I did so because of my previous education when I was a young Christian. That doctrine is false, and I'll demonstrate it:

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
-Genesis 6:1-2

The "sons of God" being referred to here is the line (or genealogy) of Seth (Luke 3:38), as opposed to the "daughters of men," which refers to the line of Cain. Just as the children of Abraham were not supposed to mix seed with the pagan nations (Deut 7:1-3), so too were the line of Seth not supposed to mix seed with the line of Cain. The line of Seth were those who began "to call upon the name of the Lord," (Gen 4:26) which is a crying out to God in repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing), whereas the line of Cain did evil in the sight of God.
(Read "Is Repentance Part of Salvation?" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

It should also be noted that angels will not see women as "fair," because angels were not created to have physical attraction to women. Fair is talking about beauty, and wanting to take a wife because of beauty is a function that was created only in mankind; angels of any sort, including fallen angels (i.e. devils) were not created with that same physical function in the flesh.

Furthermore, the Bible says they "took them wives," which means they were married. God would not have acknowledged their marriage in Scripture if they were angels because angels are not given commandment, option, nor desire to marry; that function was created specifically by God for mankind.
(Read "Marriage: What Christians Should Know" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
-Genesis 6:4

What many preachers are doing today looking at giants, and thinking this is referring to the children of the "sons of God," which is a phrase that can refer to both men and angels depending on the context, but in their ignorance, they choose to believe it was angels. They then connect the thought that if women had babies of angels, then the resulting childern were giants, which is nothing more than conjecture (i.e. a guess without facts and evidence to back it up).

I would also like to point out where the Scripture says "after that," which means the Bible tells us that there were very large/tall people who lived on the earth, but then AFTER that, the sons of God (i.e. the line of Seth) impregnated the daughters of men (i.e. the line of Cain from who they took wives), and they became mighty men, which were very strong and famous. This disconnects the two statements, but often, many preachers do not read this slowly and carefully enough to understand the difference.

Although I do not pretend to fully understand this matter (i.e. why there were giant people and what actually caused that to happen), I do believe there were giants on the earth, as the Bible says, both before and after the Flood. It is my position that these were men and women who, just like the animals and insects, grew to larger size in Pre-Flood atmospheric conditions, who would be big enough to swing around a 39-lbs axe head with ease, and some portion of this genetic capability was handed down to men after the Flood.

The tallest man in the world on record today (at the time I wrote this) is Sultan Kosen from Turkey, who finally maxed out at 8ft 3in (251 cm; 2.43 m) as of February 2011. He was born in 1982, his growth spurt did not begin until 1992 due to his pituitary gland losing the function of halting the release of growth hormone, so with a gamma-knife surgery, his hormone production was stopped in 2010.

(Guinness Book of World Records; Tallest living man in the world)

The tallest man in our recorded history [as of 2015] was Robert Wadlow, who stood almost 9 feet tall (8 ft 11.1 in; 2.72 m) and weighed 439 lbs. As you can see, he's not fat, he's just a really tall guy with big bones and big muscles. This was due to the same pituitary gland malfuction that Sultan Kosen had, except in the 1940s, there was no surgery to fix it, and Wadlow died at the age of 22. Although this is a very tall man in our eyes today, he wasn't as tall as some of the skeletons that have been discovered over the past two hundred years.
For example, according to Reader's Digest: Mysteries of the Unexplained, the Indianapolis News had reported (Nov 10, 1975) on records they had found back from 1879. According to the article, George F. Hill, a medical doctor from Ohio, had discovered a skeleton 9 ft 8 in (2.95m) tall (or long, because it was laying down) inside a burial mound in Brewersville, Indiana.

In Louisiana, many skeletons of men have been discovered that defeat the tallest man record:
"Buried beneath heavy layers of shell some 30 miles below the city, Mr. J. M. Clay found unmistakable evidence of a prehistoric race. Huge bones similar in every respect to a man's were found imbedded in thick layers of clam shells. As many as a score [20] of skeletons were found intact. Every skeleton was fully nine feet [2.75 m] high."
-The Daily Town Talk, Dec 9, 1902, quoted by The Coushatta Citizen, Louisiana, Dec 12, 2002, p. 4a

I would like to make a note here and encourage Christians to exercise caution when approaching this subject; most especially when searching for photographs. Thousands of fake pictures of giant humans have been created by art students, and many of them are out there being called "authentic" when they are simply a school project. (Or some wicked and foolish person that wants to cause trouble and disrupt the search for truth.)
"Giants have been occasionally discovered in California. In 1833, soldiers digging a pit for a powder magazine at Lompock Rancho, California, hacked their way through a layer of cemented gravel and came up with a skeleton of a man about twelve feet tall. The skeleton was surrounded by carved shells, huge stone axes, and blocks of porphyry [igneous rock with large-grained crystals; e.g. feldspar, quartz, etc] covered with unintelligible symbols... When local Indians began to attach a religious significance to the skeleton and artifacts, the authorities ordered it secretly buried, so it is lost to science."
-David H. Childress, Lost Cities of North & Central America, Adventures Unlimited Press, 1992, p. 509, ISBN: 9780932813091

Joe Taylor is a geologist and archeologist in Texas, and was commissioned to sculpt a finding of a giant femur of a man discovered in Turkey in the 1950's. The image is Taylor standing next to a drawn image of how tall this man would have been, which has been roughly estimated between 14-16 ft.
(See Joe Taylor, Mt. Blanco Museum, 124 W. Main, P.O. Box 550, Crosbyton, TX, 79322, 806-675-7777)

Locals of Northeast Wisconsin discovered mounds near Lake Noquebay containing hundreds of skeletons (today, the mounds are underwater in front of the Ahles Resort - Tipperary Ln, Crivitz, WI 54114):
"One skull found was about three times the size of the ordinary human and others bones were correspondingly big."
-The Index, "Race of Giants Lived Here; Skeletons of Mammoth Human Race Unearthed in the County; Found in Big Mound," Wausaukee, WS, Oct 14, 104, Vol 11. No 9.

Some Christians may have a hard time believing that someone could exist about three times the size of a normal man, but the Bible speaks of such men. Og, the King of Bashan, was said to be a remnant of the giants, and the Bible gives us the dimensions of his bed:

For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
-Deuteronomy 3:11

The average Queen-sized mattress comes out to about 80 inches in length, which is less than 7 feet. The size of the cubit Moses was raised using was the Egyptian cubit, which is what would have been described in Deuteronomy 3, and that is 20.65 inches, which means King Og's bed would have been over 15 feet in length.
(Read "Why Do We Have Wisdom Teeth?" here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

Whether we want to believe it or not, God's Word tells us there were many large people in this world:

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
-Numbers 13:33

"A band of amateur archaeologists announced today they have discovered a lost civilization of men nine feet tall in Californian caverns... Professional archaeologists were skeptical of Hill's story. Los Angeles County Museum scientists pointed out that dinosaurs and tigers which [expedition spokesman Howard E.] Hill said lay side by side in the caves appeared on earth 10 [million] to 13 [million] years apart. Hill said the caves were discovered in 1931 by Dr. F. Bruce Russell, Beverly Hills physician, who literally fell in while sinking a shaft for a mining claim. 'He tried for years to interest people in them,' Hill said, 'but nobody believed him.'... Several caverns contained mummified remains of 'a race of men either to nine feet tall,' Hill said, 'they apparently wore a prehistoric zoot suit--a hair garment of medium length, jacket and knee length trousers.'
Another cavern contained their ritual hall with devices and markings... 'A long tunnel from this temple took the party into a room where,' Hill said, 'well-preserved remains of dinosaurs, saber-toothed tigers, imperial elephants and other extinct beasts were paired off in ninches as if on display. Some catastrophe apparently drove the people into the caves,' he said. 'All of the implements of their civilization were found... including household utensils and stoves which apparently cooked by radio waves. I know,' he said, 'that you won't believe that.'"

-Hot Citizen [Nevada Newspaper], Aug 5, 1947, quoted by David H. Childress, Lost Cities of North & Central America, Adventures Unlimited Press, 1992, p. 509, ISBN: 9780932813091; See also Bob Maddison, "It Aint Necessarily So" Book One, Lulu.com, p. 303, ISBN: 9781304621955

Since much of the archeological community is made of religious zealots in a cult called "Evolutionism," very few, if any, would want to investigate evidence of anything that would disprove their beliefs. And I need to emphasize that they do not reject findings on the basis of intelligence, but on the basis of their heart, because Evolutionism is convenient and well-oiled excuse to help them justify their sin and lust. (i.e. It's a problem with morals, not a problem with the mind.)

(Click image for larger view.)

-The World News, "Biggest Giant Ever Known: Nine Feet High and Probably a Prehistoric California Indian," Oct 6, 1895

This rejection of knowledge is such a stable of evolutionary thinking, amazing discoveries are being scattered and lost all around the world. For example:
"At Walkerton, 20 miles southwest of South Bend [Indiana], a group of amateur archeologists opened a mound in 1925 and unearthed the skeletons of eight giants ranging from eight to nine feet long. All were wearing heavy copper armor... Through the bungling of these diggers and the total disinterest of the archaeological museum establishment, these discoveries have now been scattered and lost."
-Jim Brandon, Weird America, Dutton [University of Wisconsin], 1978, p. 84, ISBN: 9780525474913

A museum has to earn money to stay in business, and they have to find ways to get government grants to expand. The best way to do these things is to have a good archeologist on your team, and to find extraordinary discoveries that will make people want to come and see them, so to reject a set of 8-9 ft skeletons of men in full copper armor shows a clear evolutionary religious bias, considering the amount of money and fame that could be gained from such an addition to a museum.

The creation museum in Glen Rose, TX has unearthed some incredibly interesting finds; not only dinosaur and human footprints together in the same rock strata, but also human tracks of a much larger size than we normally see. The famous basketball player Shaquille O'Neal wears a size 23 shoe, but the Burdick track would have worn a size 24.
(Read "Dinosaurs and the Bible" here at creationliberty.com for more details on dinosaurs and man.)

The evolutionist objects to this because it contradicts the chimpanzee (small) to human (large), monkey to man, model of Evolutionism, therefore, they claim this was just created by some talented artist. Not only the monkey to man model, but the whole of Evolutionism would be destroyed with human and dinosaur footprints next to each other (as shown in this photo from the Glen Rose museum). What they don't tell you is that the museum did some actual scientific demonstration to show that those tracks are real.
They took a diamond saw and cut across one of the many tracks found at the Paluxy river. When viewing these cut prints under magnification (as seen at the bottom, which is the heel portion of the track), it is clear that this rock was mud that was pressed into the ground with the weight of a living creature, which cannot be replicated by simple artistic carving into rock.

Sadly, many of these discoveries are not only being lost due to disinterest from a biased cult (Evolutionism), but also are just up and being removed for renovation or construction. Native Americans have long sought to preserve Indian burial mounds, and some of them have contained giant skeletons. Ohio Indian organizations have fought a country club over building a golf course on top of Indian grave sites:
"In 1925, a New York Times Magazine article documented 'fourteen giant human skeletons' having been removed from the site. In 1939, Mary Orr, the diary-keeping wife of the club’s groundskeeper, was 'forced to say' she knew nothing 'of the discovery.'"
-Barbara A. Mann, "The Sacred Places of Unrecognized Peoples," Indian Country Today Media Network, July 14, 2015, retrieved Apr 22, 2019, [newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/archive/the-sacred-places-of-unrecognized-peoples-c-JauBxvk0ODzoEI5D6f6Q]

Even though thousands would flock to see one of these authentic giant human skeletons, they were continually ignored or thrown out because, in the end, it is harmful to the general doctrines of Evolutionism. The following article from the Grand Haven Tribune states, "some researchers point to prehistoric evolution connections," but, don't state what those specifically are, and for good reason, because when the religious doctrine of Evolutionism teaches that chimps evolved into man, giant people don't fit into that model.
"The Detroit News’ Feb. 7, 1895, edition reported a giant skeleton was unearthed on the south side of Crystal Lake, in Macomb County. A doctor who was present at the scene stated that 'the man must have been at least 11 feet high.'
Men excavating near the banks of the Belle River in St. Clair County unearthed a giant Indian skeleton in 1899. The Jan. 27 edition of the St. Clair County Yale Expositor reported 'the leg bone between the knee and ankle measures nearly 18 inches.'...
In 1906, farmer Guy Gould unearthed bones of a giant buried in a sand pit near his home in Shiawassee County’s Vernon Township. The March 31 edition of the Owosso Times reported that “the bones, which are in a perfect state of preservation, indicate he (the deceased) was at least 10 feet tall.'
The remains of two giant skeletons were found in Mount Haley Township, near Midland, in December 1906. The Dec. 22 edition of the Charlevoix County Herald reported ditch diggers had uncovered “two human skeletons, declared to be 9 feet long. Discovered in what was considered an Indian burial mound, “the lower jaw of one skeleton (measured) 4 5/8 inches diameter.'"

-Kevin Collier, "Whereabouts of Port Sheldon Golianth Remains a Mystery," Grand Haven Tribune, Dec 1, 2014, retrieved July 16, 2015, [grandhaventribune.com/article/strange-grand-haven/1360466]

Again, why would these all not be on display in a Museum? One of the major reasons is because the Smithsonian is said to have been in charge of a number of these excavations. There is a long-standing tradition of the Smithsonian is eager and quick to jump on to excavations of giant human skeletons, but then those skeletons disappear soon afterwards.
"Another large skeleton was unearthed in Dowagiac that same year. A story published in the April 19 True Northerner of Paw Paw featured the headline 'Skeletons of giants' and stated excavation of Indian mounds were being conducted under the direction of the Smithsonian Institution. 'Many bones have been found, possibly 100 persons, and many of whom were 7 feet tall,' the True Northerner reported. 'One skeleton found was a man, who in life was fully 9 feet tall.' Dozens of other excavations by the Smithsonian Institution were also conducted that same year in Cass County at Sumnerville, on the farm of Lucian Ely Wood, a former Michigan legislator... Countless reports exist in which the Smithsonian Institution was involved in excavations of giant skeletons and the recipient of such, but to this day have never displayed one such example in public."
-Kevin Collier, "Whereabouts of Port Sheldon Golianth Remains a Mystery," Grand Haven Tribune, Dec 1, 2014, retrieved July 16, 2015, [grandhaventribune.com/article/strange-grand-haven/1360466]

One missing skeleton -- understandable, two is even possible, but to have hundreds of excavations operated by, and sent to, the Smithsonian Institute, only to have them disappear and be lost, is far beyond ludicrous to call a fumble of incompetence. The Smithsonian Institute (or the sacred church of Evolutionism) has been protecting the evolution model from archeological evidence since the late 19th century, and they lie directly on their website, declaring their "vision" to the world:
"Our Vision: Shaping the future by preserving our heritage, discovering new knowledge, and sharing our resources with the world."
-Smithsonian, "Our Vision," from their "About" page, retrieved July 16, 2015, [si.edu/About/Mission]

"Noted Native American author and professor of law emeritus, Vine Deloria, writes in a personal communication, 'It's probably better that so few of the ruins and remains were tied in with the Smithsonian, because they give good reason to believe the ending of the Indiana Jones movie - a great warehouse where the real secrets of earth history are buried.' Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual accomplishments. That great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited. This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to any but government officials... Many of these were quoting from old diaries and letters that were combined for posterity in the 1800s from diaries going back to the 1700s. Says Vine in this understanding, 'Some of these old county and regional history books contain real gems because the people were not subjected to a rigid indoctrination about evolution and were astonished about what they found and honestly reported it.'"
-Ross Hamilton, "Holocaust of Giants: The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up," quoted by Wayne N. May, This Land: America 2,000 B.C. to 500 A.D., Hayriver Press, 2012, ISBN: 9780985503444

In this author's analysis, it's not just the Smithsonian; it's the entire cultic mindset of Evolutionism that is plaguing most of the museums in the U.S. In addition to the religious bias, these giant human skeletons are rarely discovered today because, with the invention of large machinary, we have very few people digging slowly by hand, and with large corporations in charge, very few, if any, will halt production (being on a contractual time limit to complete a project) for days or weeks (and depending on the find, sometimes permenantly) to have some archeologists come in and dig up a few bones (or artifacts).



 

What was the Pre-Flood world like? Until the Lord Jesus Christ comes back, we won't know for sure, but it's obvious that it was much different from the world we see today.

The fastest footspeed for mankind on record is about 27 miles per hour (mph) or 43 kilometers per hour (kph). With mankind twice the size that we normally see today, they would be capable of reaching double those speeds, which reaches the average speed limits that cars are legally permitted to drive on public roads in the U.S.

With perfect weather conditions, there would be no need for a house. Some may argue ferocious animals, but fear of man and the eating of meat did not happen until after the flood:

And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
-Genesis 9:2-3

Before this time, animals did not fear man, and there were no meat-eating animals. And with an unlimited vegetable and fruit supply in the Garden of Eden setting, there would be no need to hunt for meat, nor fight over property.

Get a cut on your leg from running so fast? Not to worry since you're in a hyperbaric environment with enriched oxygen; your wounds would heal many times faster than normal.

The people before the flood did not carry such a heavy genetic load as we do today. It is quite possible that they all had eidetic or photographic memories, and had much better immune systems, eye sight, digestive systems, and much more; including the improved atmosphere and rich organic diets designed straight from the Lord God, their extraordinary health is only something we could imagine.

Under those conditions, you don't have to worry about getting old because the wrinkles in the skin of the elderly only appear due to decades of harmful radiation from the sun, which would have been blocked out by the ice canopy over the earth. There would be no need to rush to experience everything in younger years, as most people would live for hundreds of years in good health, getting to see and know their great, great, great, great, great, great (etc) grandchildren.

And this is just the beginning because the Lord God is going to remake the world after the Lord Jesus Christ returns:

For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
-Isaiah 65:17

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
-2 Peter 3:13

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
-Revelation 21:1

There will be 1,000 years when Christ will reign on the new earth:

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled... And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
-Revelation 20:2-4

It is possible that what we will experience is the Garden of Eden conditions in this world with restored bodies that don't have all the problems we experience today. And those of us who did not get the opportunity to live in those conditions in that time, will experience what the world was first created to be, and what we were created to be.

Once that thousand years is done, we move on to something even better, which the Bible does not describe, and man cannot describe:

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
-1 Corinthians 2:9

For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
-Isaiah 64:4

On earth, we know of five senses: sight, hearing, taste, touch, and smell. Just take light for example: light goes on infinitely in either direction (based on the chart you see below), and we can only visibly see a tiny sliver of it.
If God gave us new eyes that could see the entire spectrum, we would be able to see more than we ever thought possible. We could see the sounds of music, for example, or if He gave us new tongues that could taste colors, or if He gave us new ears that could hear thoughts... we would walk around heaven for eternity just experiencing five senses extended infinitely.

What if there are more senses? What other creations does God have awaiting us in eternity? The possibilities are endless.

IMPORTANT NOTE TO CHRISTIANS: Please don't make the mistake of thinking that people will be saved by reading this material. The Bible does not tell us we are saved by hearing how wonderful heaven might be, or seeing how wonderful the Garden of Eden may have been... it says we are saved by the hearing of the law to bring us to repentance, and that God must give us that repentance.
(Read "Is Repentance Necessary?" here at creaitonliberty.com for more details.)

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
-Galatians 3:24

In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
-2 Timothy 2:25

That repentance is godly sorrow, to which a man is humbled and brought low, so that Christ will give him grace. Contrary to what the new-age wicked church buildings tend to teach, the Lord Jesus Christ does not give grace to all men, but to those who are humbled in repentance.

For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
-2 Corinthians 7:10

But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
-James 4:6

This article is intended as a food for thought for Christians to consider, not a message of Salvation, because no man will be saved through the thoughts of his own mind, but by grace, through faith, which comes from repentance at the hearing of God's Law.